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New booze ban now in effect

Started by thaiga, July 24, 2015, 08:28:39 PM

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Whoops no more beer at soi cowboy (booze ban)

Another great idea, no beer in 7-eleven, no beer in soi cowboy, come on get real, i think some research should have been done first. licensed hotels and bars already located near educational institutions will be allowed to continue selling alcohol and would be exempt from the ban.

Surprise! New booze ban now in effect

ABOVE: Areas affected in Bangkok’s central business district under the 300-meter ban specified in the order signed Monday and expected to go into effect next month. Yesterday a more vaguely worded ban was included in a surprise batch of new laws from the military government which went into immediate effect.

All sales of alcohol near schools nationwide, without exemption or exception, were banned yesterday under a vaguely worded order from the military government.

Although Prime Minister Gen. Prayuth Chan-ocha signed a specific order banning alcohol sales within 300 meters on Monday, a new law was unexpectedly published yesterday stating that “no person shall sell alcoholic beverages near the boundary lines of educational institutions or dormitories near educational institutions."

The law includes no language defining how near is “near.” The law includes all schools, not just high schools and universities. The law includes no exceptions or exemptions. The law went into immediate effect. Yesterday.

Thanakorn Kuptajit, president of the Thai Alcoholic Beverage Business Association told Coconuts today it came out of nowhere.

"I was shocked when I found out about this law yesterday," Thanakorn said. "The actual law itself is unable to be interpreted. For example, what distance is considered ‘near?’"

Some alcohol sellers have already warned by officials, he added.

That said it appeared to have a total effect of nothing on Bangkok’s nightlife last night, where it was business as usual in areas which would have been affected by the 300-meter ban such as Siam Paragon, CentralWorld, EmQuartier, Soi Cowboy and many other locations in the central business district. Not to mention nationwide.

Lots more here: bangkok.coconuts.co   :cheers
Anyone who goes to a psychiatrist should have his head examined.


Booze rules dispirit customers, bar owners

Critics complain new curbs on alcohol sales go too far and hurt business

Pubs and restaurants surrounding the University of the Thai Chamber of Commerce (UTCC) have gone quiet as blasting music along the streets was shut off from 9pm.

Many empty tables line a bar near the University of the Thai Chamber of Commerce (UTCC) in Bangkok after a government order goes into effect banning the sale of alcohol within a 300-metre radius of universities and vocational colleges. (Photo by  Pattarapong Chatpattarasill)

"Police asked us to close early tonight due to the new law that bans alcoholic drink sales near universities and vocational colleges," said Weerapol Sirikulsing, owner of Sanrak Hut, a liquor outlet near the UTCC.

The alcohol ban is an amendment of Section 44 of the interim charter which was signed by Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha on Thursday.

Under the new restrictions, any pub or nightclub that allows entry for or sells alcohol to people aged under 20, or operates after the legal hours will have its licence revoked, or will be ordered to shut for five years.

Bars, restaurants, and convenience stores are also banned from selling alcohol near schools, universities, and student accommodation.

Deputy government spokesman Sansern Kaewkamnerd said alcohol sales are banned within 300m of educational institutions under the announcement, and he urged shop owners to strictly follow the order.

Back at the Sanrak Hut, two customers were finishing up their beers as the pub was closing.

Wisut Chokpold, a 21-year-old university student, said he came by the pub about 8pm to unwind after he wrote a long exam, but was informed by the owner that he couldn't order more beer.

"I heard on the news about the new regulations on alcohol sales near institutions of higher learning, but I had no idea that it would be applied this fast," he said.

Mr Wisut said he usually hangs out with friends at alcohol outlets near the university three or four days of the week because he needs to relax after his studies. Having pubs and restaurants located around the campus is convenient.

"It's not a cure-all to solve the problem of under-age drinking because even though all the open pubs are a few kilometres away from here, students who want to drink will still go there," he said.

"If the government doesn't want people in this country to drink, why don't they just shut down all alcohol plants?" Thuwanon Mankong, a 20-year-old university student, said, interrupting Mr Wisut.

Mr Thuwanon said he spends around 1,000 baht on booze each month and he's afraid that under the new rules, his spending on spirits might rise sharply as he will have to pay more on travel costs.

"I'm not okay with the new measures," he said bluntly.

In front of the pub, Chan Boonthan, owner of a roadside fried meatballs stall, said he agrees with the new law.

Almost all of his customers are university students who hang out in bars, but he believes the new restrictions could help tackle alcohol sales near schools and universities.

"I suspect if alcohol outlets around here are closed down, my sales will take a hit. However, as a father I don't want to see my children hang out in a place like this," Mr Chan said.

Similarly, Punnarat Pompatpitchaya, a 20-year-old UTCC student, agreed pubs or nightclubs should not open around educational institutions because it could lure some students in the wrong direction and tarnish universities' image as well.

On another street, Thanadon Thaikul, owner of O-yua Pub & Restaurant near Kasetsart University, said he is considering closing down his 16-year-old business because at the moment 30-40% of the restaurant's income comes from selling alcoholic beverages.

"I used to think that my business is like a cat with nine lives because I've endured many struggles, such as the political protests and the severe floods. Maybe this time I have to give up," Mr Thanadon said.

He said he informed his 200 staff members to prepare for the worst case if the government doesn't review the order.

Meanwhile, a group of more than 80 alcohol outlet owners has called on the prime minister to review the regulation, claiming it will harm the economy and many workers.

The group also voiced concern that key economic zones in Bangkok such as Siam Square near Chulalongkorn University, the Asok area near Srinakharinwirot University, Victory Monument, and tourist destinations in other provinces such as Nimmanhemin Road in Chiang Mai, would be damaged by the regulations.

The only exemptions now are for registered hotels and special entertainment zones, for example, Patpong, Royal City Avenue (RCA) and some areas on Ratchadapisek Road.

"People in the government should think of what would happen if restaurants in Siam Paragon or CentralWorld cannot serve wine, or if Hard Rock Cafe or Khao San Road doesn't have whiskey and vodka.

"The new measures' impact is out of proportion and will force many popular places to go dry," Prommin Phiophet, a spokesman of the group said.

Anyone who goes to a psychiatrist should have his head examined.


i am under the impression this booze ban thing is to stop students drinking and fighting.why punish the people with businesses to run and a living to earn,with familys to support,ect.ect.it would make more sense to punish the offenders.like take there facebook account away ;D

i expect like everything else it will soon be back to normal ;)

Baby Farts

Quote from: sowhat on July 25, 2015, 04:42:16 PM
i am under the impression this booze ban thing is to stop students drinking and fighting.why punish the people with businesses to run and a living to earn,with familys to support,ect.ect.it would make more sense to punish the offenders.like take there facebook account away ;D

i expect like everything else it will soon be back to normal ;)

Exactly!  Back to normal soon and business as usual.


the earliest light of day


2 Bars Closed Down Under Junta's Sweeping Booze Ban

Police raid a bar in Pathum Thani that violated the junta's new booze ban by selling alcohol within 300 meters of a university, 25 July 2015.

Two bars in a northern suburb of Bangkok were the first establishments to be shut down under a new order issued by the military junta that bans selling alcohol within 300 meters of universities and schools throughout the country.

Junta chairman and Prime Minister Prayuth Chan-ocha issued the ban on 23 July by invoking Section 44 of the interim charter, which grants him authority to unilaterally enact legally-binding orders.

The ban prohibits the sale of alcohol "in the vicinity of educational establishments" and student dormitories.

Thai officials have clarified that "vicinity" refers to a 300 meter radius around any educational establishments, an all-encompassing term that includes schools, vocational colleges, and universities. The maximum penalty for bar owners who violate the prohibition is the revocation of their liquor license.

Acting under the new order, police officers raided two bars close to Rangsit University in Pathum Thani province shortly after midnight on 25 July and shut both places down.

"Both bars are situated close to an educational establishment and student dormitories, which is considered an offense under the NCPO's order about selling alcohol near educational establishments," said  Pol.Lt.Gen. Prawut Thawornsiri, deputy chief of the Thai police, using the formal name of the junta, the National Council for Peace and Order.

The two bars are called Bungalow and M.3/2.

Pol.Lt.Gen. Prawut told reporters that the bars have been shut down, and the owners have been stripped of their licenses to sell alcohol.

The owners, Wasan Dokmaikrue and Kitthanet Amornlertthanon, are also facing additional criminal charges for admitting customers under the age of 20, operating without proper permits, and failing to adhere to the midnight closing time prescribed under existing laws.

The new booze ban was issued by Gen. Prayuth as a part of the junta's effort to stamp out vice and impose public order at nighttime.

The junta leader also signed new measures to crack down young street racers - known to Thais as dek vans - that regularly roam the roads of major cities at night. The new measure permits police officers to break up groups of people gathering with the intention to organize illegal races.

The booze ban is unlikely to be strictly enforced, as it would render bars and nightclubs in many popular nightlife districts illegal. For instance, Khaosan Road, a favorite party destination for foreign backpackers, is less than 300 meters from Satri Witthaya School, and the notorious red light district of Patpong is less than 300 meters away from Chulalongkorn University.

Since staging the coup d'etat against an elected government in May last year, the junta has launched several campaigns focused on moral education and wiping out corruption and organized crime. Soldiers have also been reuglarly assisting police officers with arrests and other law enforcement duties.

Anyone who goes to a psychiatrist should have his head examined.


Paiboon: Secton 44 alcohol ban 'misunderstood'

180 days needed to draw up new entertainment zones

Justice Minister Paiboon Koomchaya on Monday tried to quell the controversy over a vaguely worded junta order banning alcohol sales “near” educational institutions, denying it prohibits booze sales within 300 metres of schools and that enforcement will depend upon the drawing of new entertainment zones.

The minister said it would take 180 days to draw up new entertainment zones that would clarify where alcohol could and could not be sold legally. Until then, there's nothing that says existing operators cannot sell booze within 300 metres of any school, he added.

The comments come after a weekend of confusion and conjecture over exactly what the government was doing with regards to alcohol sales.

The National Council for Peace and Order last week published an order under Section 44 of the interim constitution stating only that alcohol could not be sold "near" schools, colleges and universities, but did not set a radius for the dry zones.

That order followed by days the cabinet's affirmation of a Prime Minister's Office set of regulations to ban booze within 300 metres of universities and technical colleges. However, that directive has not been published in the Royal Gazette and would not become law until 30 days after it was.

The seemingly overlapping orders left both the public and police confused over what areas were legal, with tabloid websites speculating that large swaths of Bangkok, Pattaya and Phuket would be designated dry zones.

Police, meanwhile, immediately began enforcing the Section 44 order, raiding and shutting down pubs near Rangsit University in Pathum Thani and the University of the Thai Chamber of Commerce this weekend.

Seemingly trying to cool the furore, Gen Paiboon on Monday said people "misunderstood" the Section 44 order.

In fact, the Interior Ministry has been ordered to survey areas before determining alcohol-free zones. That survey, and the resulting new zoning, will take six months.

Previous zoning, he noted, had last been done in 2002 but urbanisation has changed many areas. New entertainment zones were now needed, he said.

He noted that, under current zoning, many bars were operating illegally. However, after drawing up new areas, those bars may end up being legal.

He said zoning of entertainment areas should be done every two years.

Anyone who goes to a psychiatrist should have his head examined.


Bangkok’s baffling booze ban

A new law aimed at cutting down on the number of first-time drinkers has left business owners and patrons confused

By 7pm, the six employees of the Hunsa bar had gathered around the white wooden table to eat their home-made kanom jeen, a dish consisting of rice vermicelli served with curry.

The Hunsa bar is one of many which has been forced to close, leaving people out of work and the owners waiting for clarification on the new law.

“We’ve got nothing to do and we don’t have money, so we just come here and eat,” said X, an employee at the bar for seven years.

Even during school breaks, college students would pile into the bars along Vibhavadi Rangsit Soi 2, a small side street which leads to the University of the Thai Chamber of Commerce (UTCC), as early as 6pm.

On regular school days, the venues became so packed customers would stand on the pavement with a drink in hand, while the thumping sounds of loud bass-driven music from both sides of the street would rattle car windows.

But on Tuesday night, one week after the army-led National Council for Peace and Order published an order banning alcohol sales near schools and universities, Hunsa had no choice but to close, along with hundreds of other venues selling alcoholic beverages near the UTCC.

The move came after a decade of attempts to pass legislation to reduce the number of new drinkers, in a country with almost 600,000 venues with licences to sell alcohol, according to last year's data from the Excise Department.

While there is no available information on the number of alcohol vendors nationwide located near educational institutes, the recent measures are likely to take a major toll on more than 1,700 vendors within a 300-metre radius of 15 universities in Bangkok and its outskirts, according to research by the Centre for Alcohol Studies.

full article: Bangkokpost
Anyone who goes to a psychiatrist should have his head examined.

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