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AirAsia flight missing carrying 162 people
« on: December 28, 2014, 01:58:06 PM »
AirAsia flight QZ8501 missing: Plane carrying 162 missing over Java sea

Jet lost communication with Jakarta's air traffic control about an hour before it was due to land in Singapore

An AirAsia plane with more than 160 people on board lost contact with ground control while flying over the Java Sea after taking off from a provincial city in Indonesia for Singapore.

Search and rescue operations were under way for Flight QZ8501.

AirAsia, a regional low-cost carrier with presence in several Southeast Asian countries, said ithe missing plane was an Airbus A320-200.

Flight QZ8501 lost communication with Jakarta's air traffic control at 7.24am Singapore time (23.24 GMT Saturday) about an hour before it was scheduled to land in Singapore, the Singapore Civil Aviation Authority said.

The contact was lost about 42 minutes after the single-aisle jetliner took off from Indonesia's Surabaya airport, Hadi Mustofa, a transport ministry official told Indonesia's MetroTV.

The plane had six crew and 155 passengers, including 16 children and one infant, the general manager of Surabaya's Juanda airport, Trikora Raharjo, told The Associated Press.

There were six foreigners - three South Koreans including an infant and one each from Singapore, Britain and Malaysia, he said. The rest were Indonesians.

The plane lost contact when it was believed to be over the Java Sea between Kalimantan and Java islands, Mr Mustofa said. He said the weather in the area was cloudy.

The Singapore statement said search and rescue operations have been activated by the Indonesian authorities. It said the Singapore air force and the navy also were searching with two C-130 planes.

Flightradar24, a flight tracking website, said the plane was delivered in September 2008, which would make it six years old.

It said the plane was flying at 32,000 feet, the regular cruising altitude for most jetliners, when the signal from the plane was lost

The Malaysia-based AirAsia, which has dominated cheap travel in the region for years, has never lost a plane before.

This is the third major air incident for south-east Asia in 2014.

On March 8, Malaysia Airlines flight 370, a wide-bodied Boeing 777, went missing soon after taking off from Kuala Lumpur for Beijing.

It remains missing until this day with 239 people in one of the biggest aviation mysteries.

Another Malaysia Airlines flight, also a Boeing 777, was shot down over rebel-controlled eastern Ukraine while on a flight from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur on July 17.

A total of 298 people on board were killed.


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Re: AirAsia flight missing carrying 162 people
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2014, 07:54:20 PM »
AirAsia plane search partially halted

Indonesian authorities looking for an AirAsia Bhd flight with 155 passengers and seven crew on board called off air search after a day of scouring yielded no clues on what happened to the Airbus Group NV jet.

Rescue aircraft searching for the plane, missing for more than 12 hours, have returned to base, Indonesian Vice President Jusuf Kalla said in press conference in Jakarta broadcast on Metro Television. An international hunt began after QZ8501 lost contact with tower early in the day on a flight to Singapore from Surabaya. Singapore and Malaysia, where AirAsia is based, also joined the hunt for the missing aircraft while Australia offered help.

"This is my worst nightmare," AirAsia Group Chief Executive Officer Tony Fernandes said in his Twitter postings today. "I as your group CEO will be there through these hard times. We will go through this terrible ordeal together."

QZ8501 lost contact with airport controllers at 7.24am Indonesian time Sunday, the Malaysia-based carrier said in a statement. The flight started in Surabaya, Indonesia, at 5.35 am local time and was due to arrive in Singapore at 8.30am. There is a one hour time difference between the two countries. AirAsia, the region's biggest budget airline, said there was no information on the fate of the passengers and crew of the Airbus A320-200.

The pilot of the single-aisle jet requested to fly at a higher altitude because of clouds, Indonesia's acting Air Transport Director Djoko Murjatmodjo said in Jakarta today. The journey usually takes about two hours.

Last signal

The last signal from the plane was between the city of Pontianak on Borneo and the town of Tanjung Pandan on Belitung island. Indonesian authorities will focus their search around Belitung and expand that gradually, Transport Minister Ignasius Jonan said earlier.

"The aircraft was on the submitted flight plan route and was requesting deviation due to en-route weather before communication with the aircraft was lost while it was still under the control of the Indonesian Air Traffic Control," AirAsia said in the statement. AirAsia had no fatal crashes in its history of more than a decade of operations, according to AviationSafetyNetwork, which tracks accident data.

Asian aviation

Today’s incident comes in one of the worst years in aviation for Asia, and Malaysia in particular. The Southeast Asian nation is still reeling from the crashes of two planes operated by state-run carrier Malaysian Airline System Bhd.

Flight 370 vanished from radar screens en route to Beijing from Kuala Lumpur March 8 without warning, while MH17 was shot down in Ukraine in July. The two accidents killed a combined 537 people and caused ticket bookings to plunge. No debris of MH370 has been found in what has become the world’s longest search for a missing passenger jet.

The aircraft was flying at 32,000 feet before it requested to go higher.

There were storms along AirAsia’s flight path, said on its website, citing their own meteorologist Dave Samuhel. Storms are very active this time of year, Samuhel was quoted as saying, adding that December and January are the wettest period of the year in Indonesia.

One infant

The plane had two pilots, four flight attendants and one engineer on board, AirAsia said. While the company is based in Sepang, Malaysia, it operates with subsidiaries and affiliates in different countries. The missing plane belonged to the Indonesian operations of the budget airline.

The captain in command had a total of 20,537 flying hours, including 6,053 hours with AirAsia Indonesia, and the first officer a total of 2,247, the airline said in a statement revising a previous press release.

Of the 155 passengers, 138 were adults, 16 children and one an infant. The plane was carrying one Singaporean, a Malaysian, a person from France, one from the United Kingdom, three from South Korea and 155 Indonesians, according to the latest AirAsia press release.

Airbus, the Toulouse, France-based planemaker, said it is aware of the reports about Flight 8501 and the company is in contact with the airline.

The aircraft had undergone its last scheduled maintenance last month, the carrier said.

Fernandes said Sunday afternoon that he was flying to Surabaya with the airline's management. Search-and-rescue operations are being conducted under the guidance of Indonesia's Civil Aviation Authority, AirAsia said in the statement.

Changi Airport

"AirAsia Indonesia is cooperating fully and assisting the investigation in every possible way," it said.

At Terminal Two of Singapore's Changi Airport, authorities had set up a holding room for friends and relatives of passengers. A woman, who said her name is Tri, said her relatives were on board QZ8501. Officials briefed those in the holding room, she said, without elaborating.

Fernandes, 50, bought AirAsia for 1 ringgit (29 cents) in Dec 2001 and assumed 40 million ringgit of debt, according to the airline's website. Prior to running AirAsia, Fernandes was once an employee at Richard Branson's Virgin Group. The airline had two old aircraft when Fernandes took charge.

AirAsia had a total of 171 A320s in operations at the end of September, according to its quarterly operating statistics statement on its website. The Indonesia unit operated 30 planes, the statement said. The airline has units across several Asian countries, including India and Thailand.

The single-aisle A320 is the most popular plane that Airbus makes in terms of sales numbers. The plane typically seats between 150 to 180 passengers, usually in six abreast configuration.

More than 3,600 A320s are in operation worldwide as of November, according to Airbus's website.

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Re: Family of 10 missed ill-fated flight
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2014, 03:05:13 PM »
JAKARTA - An Indonesian family of 10 said Monday they had a miraculous escape when they arrived too late to catch AirAsia Flight QZ8501, which went missing shortly after take-off en route to Singapore.

Christianawati, 36, said the 10 of them, who included her family, her mother and her younger brother's family, were heading to Singapore to celebrate New Year.

The six adults and four children were originally booked on the 7:30 am flight but AirAsia moved them to Flight QZ8501 scheduled for two hours earlier.

"They emailed and called us on December 15 and 16 to inform us but we missed those calls," Christianawati said.

"So we arrived at the airport to check in for the 7:30am flight but were told our flights had been rescheduled to 5:30am and we were late. Of course we were angry," she said.

"While the new tickets were being reissued, we heard that the earlier plane had crashed so we cancelled our flights immediately," she said.

"I was shocked to hear about it and cried. Maybe it is all God's plan that my family and I were not on the flight. It was a blessing in disguise," she said.

"I hope that the plane is found and everyone is safe."

Christianawati said she would be switching airlines.

"We travel to Singapore twice a year and always by AirAsia. We consider it a safe airline ... but now our confidence in AirAsia is somewhat shaken and we shall just stick to Garuda Indonesia," she said.

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Re: Forty bodies found in missing plane search
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2014, 06:16:07 PM »
AirAsia QZ8501: Forty bodies found in missing plane search

At least 40 bodies have been recovered from the sea in the search for missing AirAsia Flight QZ8501, the Indonesian navy says.

The bodies were spotted along with debris floating in the Java Sea off the Indonesian part of Borneo, in one of the search zones for the plane.

There has been no official confirmation that the remains come from the plane.

The Airbus A320-200, carrying 162 people from Surabaya in Indonesia to Singapore, disappeared on Sunday.

The search operation is now in its third day, with the area widened to cover 13 zones over land and sea.

During a news conference by the head of the operation, shown live on Indonesian TV, pictures of the debris were shown including a body floating on the water.

Relatives of passengers on the plane watching the pictures were visibly shocked.

Later, the Indonesian navy reported that 40 bodies had been retrieved by one warship.

Its spokesman said the rescuers were continuing to recover bodies and were "very busy now".

AirAsia CEO Tony Fernandes tweeted to the families: "My heart is filled with sadness for all the families involved in QZ 8501. On behalf of AirAsia my condolences."

Search operation head Bambang Soelistyo said he was 95% certain the objects shown were from the plane, adding that a shadow was spotted under water which appeared to be in the shape of a plane.

All resources were now being sent to the area where the debris was found, he said.

Mr Soelistyo added that ships with more sophisticated technology were being deployed to check whether larger parts of the plane were submerged beneath the debris.

Indonesian civil aviation chief Djoko Murjatmodjo, quoted by AFP news agency, said "significant things" such as a passenger door and cargo door had been found.

He added that the objects had been found 160km (100 miles) south-west of Pangkalan Bun in Borneo's Central Kalimantan province.

At least 30 ships, 15 aircraft and seven helicopters joined the operation when it resumed at 06:00 local time on Tuesday (23:00 GMT Monday).

The operation, led by Indonesia, includes assistance from Malaysia, Singapore and Australia, with other offers of help from South Korea, Thailand, China and France. The US destroyer USS Sampson is on its way to the zone.
Communication lost

On board the plane were 137 adult passengers, 17 children and one infant, along with two pilots and five crew.

Most were Indonesian but the passengers included one UK national, a Malaysian, a Singaporean and three South Koreans.

The plane left Surabaya at 05:35 Jakarta time on Sunday and had been due to arrive in Singapore two hours later.

Safety officials say the captain had asked for permission to take the plane higher but, by the time permission was granted, communication with the plane was lost.

It was officially declared missing at 07:55.

AirAsia previously had an excellent safety record and there were no fatal accidents involving its aircraft.
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Re: AirAsia flight QZ8501 was flying on an unauthorised schedule
« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2015, 12:52:46 PM »
AirAsia flight QZ8501 search team finds four large objects on seabed

Wreckage thought to be part of aircraft’s fuselage located
Airline’s permit to fly route frozen while crash investigated

The search team scouring the ocean floor for the wreckage of the AirAsia plane that crashed off Indonesia have detected four large objects, officials said on Saturday.

The announcement came after the country’s transport ministry said AirAsia flight QZ8501 was flying on an unauthorised schedule, adding that it had now frozen the airline’s permission to fly the route.

The biggest piece of wreckage found, measuring 18 metres (59 feet) buy 5.4 metres, appeared to be part of the jet’s fuselage, Henry Bambang Soelistyo, the head of the National Search and Rescue Agency, said.

Strong currents and big surf have prevented divers from entering waters to get a visual of the wreckage, but officials are hopeful they will find many of the 162 passengers and crew who were aboard the plane still strapped in their seats inside.

After nearly a week of searching, only 30 bodies have been found. Two large parts of the plane were found on the seabed late on Friday.

Indonesia’s acting director general of air transport, Djoko Murdjatmodjo, said earlier on Saturday that officials had not cleared the plane’s flight time, and that the ministry would investigate all AirAsia schedules from Monday.

Flight QZ8501 crashed into the Java Sea with 162 people on board en route from Indonesia’s second city of Surabaya to Singapore early on Sunday.

“It violated the route permit given, the schedule given. That’s the problem,” Murdjatmodjo told Agence France-Presse on Saturday.

The permit would be frozen until investigations were completed, he told Reuters.

AirAsia’s licence in Indonesia might be revoked.

Sunu Widyatmoko, AirAsia Indonesia’s chief, said the airline would cooperate with the inquiry.

“The government has suspended our flights from Surabaya to Singapore and back,” he said. “They are doing the evaluation process. AirAsia will cooperate fully with the evaluation.”

A statement from the ministry spokesman, J A Barata, said AirAsia was not permitted to fly the Surabaya-Singapore route on Sundays and had not asked to change its schedule. It was unclear how the airliner had been able to fly without the necessary authorisation.

The plane was operated by AirAsia Indonesia, a unit of the Malaysia-based AirAsia, which previously had a solid safety record.

On Saturday, the head of Indonesia’s search and rescue agency said that two large parts of the plane had been found at a depth of around 30 metres, raising hopes that its black boxes would be recovered soon.

Bambang Soelistyo told reporters in Jakarta that the international search team came across the objects off the island of Borneo late on Friday night.

“With the discovery of an oil spill and two big parts of the aircraft, I can assure you these are the parts of the AirAsia plane we have been looking for,” he said.

He said the larger of the two objects was around 10 metres by 5 metres.

“As I speak, we are lowering an ROV [remotely operated vehicle] underwater to get an actual picture of the objects detected on the sea floor,” Soelistyo said.

He added, however, that a strong current was making it difficult to operate the craft.

The families of victims have been preparing funerals as the bodies recovered are identified in Surabaya, where a crisis centre has been set up at a police hospital with facilities to store 150 bodies.

Before takeoff, the pilot of flight QZ8501 had asked for permission to fly at a higher altitude to avoid a storm, but the request was not approved because there were other planes above him on the route, according to AirNav, Indonesia’s air traffic control.

In his last communication shortly before contact was lost, he said he wanted to change course to avoid the menacing storm.
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Re: AirAsia flight missing carrying 162 people
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2015, 01:58:03 PM »
A good excuse for Air Asia's insurer not to pay out any money.
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Re: AirAsia flight missing carrying 162 people
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2015, 03:26:06 PM »
good point t/t according to

The costs are typically borne by a number of insurance companies because of a practice called reinsurance. Essentially, the risk that one company would have to make a huge payment is spread out among numerous insurers. In the case of AirAsia 8501,German giant Allianz is the lead reinsurer.

Here's a bit from

AirAsia Flight QZ8501 'Not Authorised To Fly'

The company could lose its licence in Indonesia as it emerges the doomed flight was not allowed to travel on the day of the crash.

AirAsia could be banned from offering flights in Indonesia, after it emerged that Flight QZ8501 was not authorised to fly on the day it plunged into the Java Sea.

The company also faces allegations that the pilot did not ask for a weather report from meteorologists before take-off, amid concerns that the Airbus A320 was downed in stormy conditions.

Indonesia's transport ministry has suspended all AirAsia flights between Surabaya and Singapore - the route where the plane went missing in the early hours of 28 December.

The budget airline's other schedules are also under investigation, as it was not permitted to make this journey on Sundays.
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Re: AirAsia crash insurance to be paid out
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2015, 12:28:55 PM »
Insurance firms covering AirAsia flight QZ8501 are still obligated to pay out insurance claims for flight passengers in spite of permit lapses, Indonesia’s financial regulator has said, The Jakarta Globe reported.

“Based on what I’ve read, there is nothing in the insurance policies that said the change of schedule or the lack of permit of AirAsia Flight QZ8501 excludes insurers from paying for the claims,” said Firdaus Djaelani, a commissioner at the Financial Services Authority (OJK) overseeing non-banking financial institutions, during a press conference in Jakarta on Tuesday.

Firdaus was addressing speculation surrounding Flight QZ8501, which crashed in to the Java Sea en route to Singapore from Surabaya on Dec 28, in particular AirAsia’s lack of a permit to fly that route on a Sunday, which might void insurance claims.

During the investigation of the crash, authorities had discovered that Indonesia AirAsia, the local affiliate of Malaysian low-cost carrier AirAsia, only had a license to fly the route on Mondays, Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays.

The flight took off on a Sunday.

According to a Reuters report, Singapore’s civil aviation authorities said the AirAsia flight was authorized to fly on that day and AirAsia officials have said they are fully cooperating with any investigation from the authorities.

“The cause [of the accident] is still under investigation […] Still, the probable cause of the crash isn’t the permit, but because of the bad weather or damaged engine. This means that it’s still claimable,” Firdaus said.
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