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365 Dangerous days
« on: January 04, 2017, 12:55:51 AM »
Is Driving in Thailand getting worse

I avoided the thread seven dangerous days this new year as it is so depressing and nothing changes, it goes on and on never
ending, but the accident in chon buri where 25 lives were wiped out just like that, i felt i had to make a post.
will the government please do something about it, stop the endless suffering and the loss of lives.

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Already by the 5th of the seven dangerous days, there is an increase of 25.68% up on last year. In one accident alone 25 people were killed in chonburi when a minibus and a pickup collided, as you can see, how awful it must be to be burnt alive, The crash claimed the most lives in one single accident so far over the New Year holidays, the government's so-called road safety campaign was launched on Dec 29.

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The passenger van was carrying 15 people but the pick up truck was carrying 12 people, imo far too many.


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Thai news reports the police still try to identify five charred bodies, the Bangkok bound van went across the center divider and slammed head on into the truck, that was laden with passengers.


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My heart goes out to the relatives, friends and families of those that were involved.
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Re: 365 Dangerous days
« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2017, 02:36:35 AM »
I agree with you thaiga, IT NEEDS A 24/7/365 change in culture to bring this about, if any one cared, as the culture of driving here is about 50 years behind the technology that is available to the masses now. Something drastic needs to be done. But I don't think this will happen for a long time.
Limit driving hours for anyone driving for profit, like 10hrs max within 24 hrs, no drinking 8 hours before driving. Some of these laws should also be for the ordinary driver. NO MORE occupants other than the number of seatbelts fitted by the manufacturer of the vehicle.
A more stringent road test for obtaining a driving licence, a graduated license system, 1 year of driving in daylight hours with a licensed driver beside the learner, no Highway driving. another year of driving under imposed restrictions, ie driving on the highway only during daylight hours, before a full licences is given.
The powers to be should look to the better systems in the west and take the better practices from these countries, admittedly this will need a lot of research but that's what universities are for.

A good start would be here: http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/dandv/driver/handbook/index.shtml

The main hurdle I see is the change in culture in Thailand, which I still think needs similar changes in New Zealand & Australia as well, society's view of drinking and driving.

This would be just a start.

Just my $0.02 worth.

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Re: 365 Dangerous days
« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2017, 02:03:05 PM »
Hi K.C. thanks for your $0.02 worth.

Yes a change in culture, also attitude, here in the sticks i get the impression people think it's ok to drink & drive as long as they stay local and out of town. Seems odd when you see a cop waiting at the traffic lights alongside a motorcycle with three kids on it, too young to have a licence, no helmets. yet no action is taken. The answer i got was. Oh! he's finished his shift.

Bangkok post reports The driver of the van involved in a horrific crash in Chon Buri which left 25 dead on Monday was likely to have dozed off behind the wheel as he had made five round trips within 31 hours, according to officials. The van, which was heading from Chanthaburi to Bangkok, a distance of 250km, when it swerved out of its lane and crashed into a pickup truck traveling in the opposite direction on a highway in Chon Buri's Ban Bung district.

The Nation reports THE TRANSPORT Ministry plans to strictly control passenger vans and replace them with buses after the fiery accident in Chon Buri on Monday caused 25 fatalities. Not like the one below i hope  :-[

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Re: 365 Dangerous days
« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2017, 12:12:41 AM »
The driver in the clip (above post) had 40 passengers on the bus. said that he was trying to catch up with other vehicles in the convoy. (i wanna be first) He was fined 5,000 bht.

Am i reading this right or what, an article in the dailynews.co.th. reports of a minivan being stopped by the police with completely bald tyres, they let the driver go with a warning and that he would change them tomorrow. The checkpoint was for checking minivans for roadworthiness. Although his van was empty he was on his way to Bangkok to pick up people.


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Re: 365 Dangerous days
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2017, 02:00:57 PM »
The seven dangerous days saw 426 deaths and 3,761 injuries in 3,579 road accidents, an increase from 340 deaths and 3,216 injuries in 3,092 accidents over the same period last year according to the Road Safety Directing Centre.

Back to the passenger vans & yet another article from the Bangkokpost. where a Driver of an overloaded passenger van fined, the maximun 5,000bht & suspended. He was carrying 20 passengers the van was registered to carry only 14. The blame in some cases cannot be put on the driver alone, but the owners of the passenger vans. With modern technology camera phones at least it's being brought out into the open and showing that people are aware of the dangers.

Driver of overloaded passenger van fined, suspended

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Re: 365 Dangerous days - Pickup trucks not be allowed to carry passengers
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2017, 12:17:54 AM »
Pickup trucks, said General Prawit, will, in the future, not be allowed to carry passengers as the trucks were designed to carry goods. englishnews.thaipbs.or.th
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The accident in chonburi claiming 25 lives lets hope it's started the ball rolling as to the driving habits in thailand. There is now in force a stricter driver theory test when applying for your driving license. candidates for new driver license and driver license holders who failed to renew the license within one year have to attend the driving theory class longer, from four hours now to five.
Well! it's a start.  ::)
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A passenger van driver stopped his vehicle in pattaya and emptied his bus, as his time for driving hours was up reports
thairath.co.th.

Another article in the bangkokpost.com. Where Passengers were stranded as the overworked driver abandoned the bus, the guy was too tired after working non stop for several days. Also the bus had not undergone the annual vehicle examination for the renewal of vehicle tax and registration, which expired on Sept 30, 2016. There was no GPS tracking device installed in the bus, as required. So are we now pointing blame at the vehicle owners


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But as usual. They have now got the situation in hand as ......

PM vows to get tough especially with passenger vans within 3 months from now

The prime minister said that every bus and passenger van driver must keep a logbook in which he or she must note down his/her name, the driving time, the route. “Police at every checkpoint must check the logbooks. If a driver is found to have driven beyond the time limit, the vehicle must be impounded and all passengers told to get off to board a new van or bus and a new driver must be found,” said the prime minister. He also threatened to replace rogue drivers with military personnel.

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Re: 365 Dangerous days
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2017, 03:45:01 PM »
thanks for another most interesting thread,an amusing one at that,do you really think there will be no people sitting in the back of pick ups anymore and with songkran coming up. there would not be any need for new laws if the existing ones were obeyed. you will not change the habits of a lifetime in 3 months.

Death toll records from road accidents for the last ten years are as follows: 449 deaths in 2007, 401 in 2008, 357 in 2009, 347 in 2010, 358 in 2011, 321 in 2012, 365 in 2013, 366 in 2014, 341 in 2015, 380 in 2016 and 478 in 2017
Death toll highest in 10 yrs http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/478-deaths-4128-injuries-seven-days/

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Re: 365 Dangerous days
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2017, 06:03:36 PM »
Well that is nice of you monsieur sowhat, but really no need i have got used to the non appreciative members by now, in the act of estimating the qualities of things and giving them their proper value, maybe they do not warrant a thank you. But we do have a lot of views from non members as well, which view daily and i'm sure they appreciate

Back on track:

Why do you need military personnel to sort out the driving problems, what's wrong with the police. The latest passenger van crash where a passenger was killed and four hurt, Police suspect the driver fell asleep at the wheel, but were still waiting to question him.

Passenger killed, four hurt in latest van crash



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Road safety is our right, not a privilege

Have you ever wondered why after years of efforts, Thailand has barely made a dent in reducing road traffic fatalities and injuries?

With 66 people killed every day on Thai roads, we are only second behind war-torn Libya in annual road traffic deaths. It is no accident either that we've ended up here and yet -- why aren't we more upset?

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Re: 365 Dangerous days
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2017, 11:28:04 PM »
And the beat goes on, another incident with a passenger van that catches fire. Now The Transport Ministry wants micro buses to replace all such vans within this year. The Transport Ministry has ordered that all 6,400 interprovincial passenger vans operating out of Bangkok be replaced with micro buses by year-end to improve safety. But that don't solve the problem of driver fatigue, or bad drivers ect ect. :spin

14 tourists flee burning van


Rescue workers inspect the charred tourist van on the road to Phu Thap Boek in Phetchabun on Friday evening. (Photo by Soonthorn Khongwarakhom)

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Microbuses to replace passenger vans this year

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Re: 365 Dangerous days
« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2017, 11:53:00 AM »
thai people usually rely on spiritual power to have a safe journey
i cannot see changing the buses will make a difference if your putting the same negligent drivers back on the road,education on safety must be adhered to,fatigue,is the main cause and gps will not stop the driver from falling asleep.
self-driving vehicles could be the answer
ignorance does not help your post one bit but it probably says an awful lot about you.

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Re: 365 Dangerous days
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2017, 01:33:04 PM »
Bus flips and crashes


Police and rescue workers arrived to hear the cries of the bus occupants trying to find a way out. Photo: Kritsada Mueanhawong

Another incident where a bus toppled on it's side and crashed into a power pole,  injuring the driver and 22 passengers that were on board. phuketgazette.net reports that people were struggling to find their way out of it and were crying in pain.

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