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Offline sowhat

3 mth old baby gets tangled in motorcycle wheel, dies
« on: July 24, 2017, 03:15:23 PM »
scams & crimes thread,i would say a crime has been committed here,when are people going to stop dragging kids around on motorcycles.

Baby pulled to death by motorcycle

The three-month-old daughter of teenage parents was killed when she was pulled to the road after her clothing got caught in their motorcycle's rear wheel.

http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/general/1293051/baby-pulled-to-death-by-motorcycle
 

Offline Johnnie F.

Re: 3 mth old baby gets tangled in motorcycle wheel, dies
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2017, 05:20:03 PM »
Very sad, but still an accident! I'm sure those kids have learned from it.

As long as there are no alternatives like suitable, comfortable and affordable public transport, things will not change. The motorcycle is still the most affordable means of individual transport in Thailand.
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Offline thaiga

Re: 3 mth old baby gets tangled in motorcycle wheel, dies
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2017, 06:43:49 PM »
Very sad, but still an accident! I'm sure those kids have learned from it.

As long as there are no alternatives like suitable, comfortable and affordable public transport, things will not change. The motorcycle is still the most affordable means of individual transport in Thailand.
Yes an accident but could of been avoided with a little more care, i don't think they will learn from it.
So lets blame the accident on bad public transport. ()

Crazy Driving in Thailand!

On the crazy side you have driving at high speed, on the wrong side of the road with no lights or helmet and on the outright impossible side we have those who can get their entire family, including pets and furniture on the bike. Both of these practices are again perceived as normal in Thailand and you will no doubt have seen in happen on numerous occasions.

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Offline Johnnie F.

Re: 3 mth old baby gets tangled in motorcycle wheel, dies
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2017, 08:38:44 PM »
It's mindlessness and recklessness mainly, but as long as people don't learn about awareness and there are no suitable alternatives, it will be hard to change. It's a matter of economics and lifestyle. Start with the education sector: Costs too much! Start with a safe public transport system: Costs too much! Etc.

In our home countries things developed a long time before Thailand. Our parents and grandparents set different priorities. In Thailand's history only sometimes there were advances, but there were also opposite interests. For example can you imagine the (silent)"outcry" of the motorcycle industry's lobby, if you start to heavily regulate motorcycle traffic? Loudest the people who can't afford a car will complain.
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Offline nan

Re: 3 mth old baby gets tangled in motorcycle wheel, dies
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2017, 08:59:03 PM »
a young child has been killed here
 
are you saying an affordable safe public transport system that death would of been avoided,along with the hundreds and hundreds that die on the roads daily on a motorcyc. would that also stop the idiots on motorcycs driving with one hand texting with the other,driving against the flow of traffic,up to five passengers, no i don't think so only the law can stop that and as long as people are allowed to do as they want,i cannot see an end to it.

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Offline Johnnie F.

Re: 3 mth old baby gets tangled in motorcycle wheel, dies
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2017, 09:32:28 PM »
only the law can stop that and as long as people are allowed to do as they want,i cannot see an end to it.



By the law negligence is forbidden already. Problem is that people are not aware that heeding the law is to their best and therefore follow it. Ho to make people aware? By turning Thailand into a police state? Won't work! Only education is an answer. But there are counterforces, who don't want people to think (before they buy the laundry detergent that "whitens their shirts to the tone advertised as garantee for success") etc.

And harsher law enforcement is not the main answer, as long as "the law" is also in need of paying their children's school fees and buying them iPhones etc., so they don't stand back from their mates. 
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Online Baby Farts

Re: 3 mth old baby gets tangled in motorcycle wheel, dies
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2017, 06:59:10 AM »
The article says the infant died from trauma to the head.  Does this suggest no helmet being used?  Parents who endanger their children should be held accountable.  Deaths like these CAN be avoided.  Retreating into the scriptures of, "It was bad luck," which seems to be typical here, just doesn't cut it.

The problem, as I see it, is that things like driving recklessly never change here for a reason.  Children are raised at a very young age watching their parents and everyone else ride around them riding without helmets, too many riders on a motorbike, dangling an infant under one arm, talking on cell phones while riding, etc, so they grow up thinking that this is normal and acceptable behavior.  Then, when they get older, (that's if they're not killed in a traffic accident,) they pass the same thing (behavior) along to their future children.  It's a vicious cycle that repeats itself and never ends.  This is why so many things never change in Thailand, like the educational system for example.

Just yesterday, scooter boy is texting in one hand while going through an intersection creating traffic. He got a good taste of the train horn.  In shock, he looks at me with disbelief and awe with this look on his face that can only be described as, "How dare you point out my mistake in front of all these other motorists!"  Driving home later that evening we have another nimrod riding down the opposite way on the access road next to Mittaphrap.  He too got a blast of the 147db train horn.  Well, he decided to beep his little scooter back at me in defiance.  Amazing. They get angry when they're clearly in the wrong and get all upset like little children if you point out their mistake.  This is why the Thais do NOT like it when you honk your horn at them.

Back to the story.  How can these meaningless deaths be avoided?  They can't.  Thais are reluctant to change.  They resist it.  It reminds me of a dog I used to have.  He'd always pull back hard and refuse to budge when I was trying to teach him how to walk with a leash around him.  The more I pulled on the leash, the more he resisted.  Thais are much the same way.  The more you try to educate and teach, the more they resist.  So now, every now and then I have to jerk the chain when a Thai isn't responding or acting recklessly on the road.  I know I've said this many times, but the train horn is not for my entertainment, well maybe sometimes, but it's primary function is to warn said nimrod so an accident doesn't occur....and it works.  I had an idea some time ago where I was going to do a charity function with the Police and donate a stash of helmets (using my funds) and give them out at certain intersections to the unfortunate riders who aren't using a helmet.  One of the police told me that people would accept them, then head to the first scooter shop to pawn the helmet for money.  He's right. The project is still on hold.
 
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Offline Johnnie F.

Re: 3 mth old baby gets tangled in motorcycle wheel, dies
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2017, 08:10:34 AM »
Honking your 147db train horn for any reason besides alerting others to danger is against the law as well. I remember when in younger years I was riding a bicycle around Korat. When there was one, I was always riding on the shoulder, but that didn't keep silly car drivers from giving the farang on the bicycle a "greeting". So I could hear their horn better, they drove until a few inches close by and honked apparently for no (other) reason, each time almost giving me a heart attack, realising that on the shoulder I was not any safer than in the middle of the road. I always wished to have had a handgrenade at hand to throw after them. Is your "honking" any better, BF?
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Offline thaiga

Re: 3 mth old baby gets tangled in motorcycle wheel, dies
« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2017, 03:10:06 PM »
Why do some keep banging on about the fault lies with the education system, or public transport or even a proper test centre. Never blame the guy driving, if the guy in this case has learned his lesson it's at the cost of a childs life. Some have the attitude of, I'll be ok i have got tatoos to protect me and a few amulets round my neck.

Even my own thai family prop the kids up front on their motorbike and off they go, we see it everyday kids clutched to something hanging on for their dear lives.

I ask myself, are them kids really loved, if so, why put them in that danger.

PS: a hand grenade is a lot worse than a train horn and i am sure it's against the law  :salute
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Offline Johnnie F.

Re: 3 mth old baby gets tangled in motorcycle wheel, dies
« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2017, 04:32:20 PM »
PS: a hand grenade is a lot worse than a train horn and i am sure it's against the law  :salute

Driving just a few inches close to a cyclist on the shoulder to honk the horn scaring him just for fun is next to attempted murder!!! Not any better than imagining to throw a handgrenade in retaliation. :)
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Offline Johnnie F.

Re: 3 mth old baby gets tangled in motorcycle wheel, dies
« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2017, 04:48:58 PM »
I ask myself, are them kids really loved, if so, why put them in that danger.

Once I was taking the 3rd class slow train to Bangkok, when there was no Immigration Office in Korat, yet. Getting closer to Bangkok the train was getting fuller, and there was a young mother standing in the aisle of the shaking car, holding a baby casually with one arm at her shoulder and herself with the other. Upon the realisation, that she could easily drop or hurt the baby when the train sudenly had to brake, and since I had been sitting for hours already, I offered her my seat. But she refused. It took a lot of persuasion to make her understand that I was giving up my seat for her baby's safety. Also the other sitting passengers looked like I was crazy to give up my seat for a young woman. Those looks and comments in Thai made the mother with the baby hesitate to accept the seat; they seemed to advise her against accepting a seat from an elderly person. Short: you gotta change the whole Thai society's thinking of preferences. Generations need to change.
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Offline thaiga

Re: 3 mth old baby gets tangled in motorcycle wheel, dies
« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2017, 05:26:23 PM »
Generations need to change.
Have a read of this, i found it interesting even being from the d/m, how some can dismiss their roots

he is rich and I am poor
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Offline Johnnie F.

Re: 3 mth old baby gets tangled in motorcycle wheel, dies
« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2017, 06:11:00 PM »
Have a read of this, i found it interesting even being from the d/m, how some can dismiss their roots

How can I (read that), if the Thai government protects people in Thailand from looking up the Daily Mail? :-[

Better copy the content or make screenshot to post.
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Offline thaiga

Re: 3 mth old baby gets tangled in motorcycle wheel, dies
« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2017, 06:21:30 PM »
Loud and clear with 3bb - anyone else getting the same

'The new generation want wealth... but they don't want to work hard': Thai village 'betrayed' by Red Bull family whose £18bn fortune began on a duck farm before the private jets, fast cars and champagne

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Offline Johnnie F.

Re: 3 mth old baby gets tangled in motorcycle wheel, dies
« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2017, 06:36:22 PM »
My workaround the block is to open it with Google translator and read it in German translation. I guess Thais can just read in Thai with Google translator.  ;)
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Offline thaiga

Re: 3 mth old baby gets tangled in motorcycle wheel, dies
« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2017, 06:46:25 PM »
There u go guys - google translator and read it in german  :lol

or should i say Yellowmany ;)
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Online KiwiCanadian

Re: 3 mth old baby gets tangled in motorcycle wheel, dies
« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2017, 06:51:09 PM »
Short: you gotta change the whole Thai society's thinking of preferences. Generations need to change.

Agreed, I have always said the Thai year may be numbered 543 years ahead of the christian calendar but the culture is 543 years behind the christian calendar.
 
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Offline Johnnie F.

Re: 3 mth old baby gets tangled in motorcycle wheel, dies
« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2017, 08:32:32 PM »
There u go guys - google translator and read it in german  :lol

or should i say Yellowmany ;)

If you can't read any other language but English, open it with Google translator anyway, let it translate into any language and then select to view the original. ;)
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Online Baby Farts

Re: 3 mth old baby gets tangled in motorcycle wheel, dies
« Reply #18 on: July 25, 2017, 08:57:23 PM »
It's actually not against the law to have a train horn and use it.  I've spoken to several police about it and was told it depends on the situation.  I use it to prevent an accident, an accident that could cost someone's life.  I don't drive around town blasting it for fun and I am pretty cautious of where and when I use it because of the collateral damage it can cause.  The scooter boy who's about to cut right in front of me and cause an accident should be thankful of my train horn warning.  A regular car horn doesn't work because they're used to it already.  It's not loud enough, especially if scooter boy just happens to be wearing a helmet.   Another thing I've come to believe is that Thais love loud noise.  The bigger and louder the speakers at some function or pretty girl at the mall blabbing away about some sale, the happier they are.  Look at all the cars and trucks with 10,000+ watt stereo systems that you can hear a mile away thumping to the bass.  Then there's those trucks with the Ted Nugent speakers mounted in the bed driving painfully slow with the billboard signs advertising.  How about the "new Monk" parades where there's a full live band in the back of a truck playing loud music at early morning hours to let the entire city of Korat know that Somchai junior is going into the Monkery for six months to make merit. 

What's funny is I've actually had several Thais ask me where they can buy a train horn. There is more than one truck in Korat with a train horn. <grin> ;D
 
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Offline thaiga

Re: 3 mth old baby gets tangled in motorcycle wheel, dies
« Reply #19 on: July 25, 2017, 09:10:34 PM »

Iv'e heard some farangs in Korat have trouble getting the horn  :drink

:lol :lol :lol
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Re: 3 mth old baby gets tangled in motorcycle wheel, dies
« Reply #20 on: July 26, 2017, 07:19:32 AM »
Iv'e heard some farangs in Korat have trouble getting the horn  :drink

:lol :lol :lol

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