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Offline bannerman

Retirement extension,help please guys.
« on: February 12, 2016, 10:56:04 AM »
Hello to you all newbie here with a problem.
I have to renew my retirement extension next month,i have always done this with the 800,000 in the bank but this time i want to do the pension combo.
I have now been told,after getting papers together,that the money in my Thai bank has to be seasoned and my pension has to be paid to my account here in Korat,is this correct ?.Have any of you guys had any problems with this at Korat immigration .
Thanks for your advice.
 

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Re: Retirement extension,help please guys.
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2016, 07:31:18 AM »
Bannerman presumably you have got the letter from your Embassy to include in your combo with the Bank Account ?
The money has to be in the Bank for 3 months before your renewal and you need copies of your Bank Book or similar together with a letter from the Bank certifying that the Bank Book 'evidence' is correct.
As long as the Bank is in Thailand you should be OK but if your Bank is in Bangkok say, it does mean that you have to rush down to BKK and bring your evidence back !
So why not move your account to a local Branch ? It should take only 7 days.
But I'm not sure whether the account is actually required to be in Korat ????
Good Luck and keep cool !
 

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Re: Retirement extension,help please guys.
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2016, 11:23:09 AM »
Hi Roger and thanks for your help,my account is here in Korat so no problem with that,so far.
 

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« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2016, 04:10:15 PM »
So why not move your account to a local Branch

Be careful of the dates, i moved my account to my local branch. Went to chok chai for my yearly ext. only to be told the money had not been in the account for 3 months, i explained i had transfered the funds to my local branch and showed the old bankbook where it had been transfered from, only to be told, this book has cancelled all over it.

After a song and dance they give me the ext. at a price :-[
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Offline Baby Farts

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« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2016, 06:46:13 PM »
For what it's worth.  I'm on a Non-O Marriage visa which requires 400,000 baht in my Thai bank account for at least three months.  My bank is Bangkok Bank, which does NOT give you the verification letter in Korat.  You have to fill out an application which they in turn MAIL to the head office in Bangkok for approval.  It then takes roughly 3-5 days to get it back. 

I've just learned this recently when I had to show that I had a considerable of money in my Bangkok Bank account in order to become a share holder in a Thai company.  It took me three days to get the needed document.  You have to go to your local branch and also pick it up there.  I don't know what other Thai banks require.
 

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« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2016, 07:23:08 PM »
My local Bangkokbank takes about an hour price 100 bht.  I'm on retirement 800,000. I am under the impression the letter cannot be more than a day old.
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Re: Retirement extension,help please guys.
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2016, 07:00:59 AM »
Thaiga - B'man's a/c is already in Korat so HE has no problem on that front. But good to settle your account in Korat 3 months in advance so no-one can get picky on a 'bad' day !
BF - that's just confusing - I'm at BKK Bank too and as Thaiga says to get the letter takes an hour or sometimes less. Immigration only accept a letter dated the previous day or the same day.
(Hard to understand why your BKK branch in Korat sends to Bangkok for the letter - surely it'd be out of 'date' at Immigration by then. Maybe it's different for your Marriage visa. There is certainly NO problem re. Retirement Visas at the little BKK Bank Chok Chai branch).

One other detail - get your Bank Book updated regularly during that 3 months 'seasoning' period - otherwise you will have to get a Bank printout statement for the period which has to be certified page by page as well as getting the letter.

A new point re. the 90 day reporting - you can report up to 14 days EARLY and also, up to 7 days LATE - (after that the fine commences at B2000 !). Just in case it helps anyone. ATB

 
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Offline bannerman

Re: Retirement extension,help please guys.
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2016, 11:43:45 AM »
Thank you Roger,
My real problem is the seasoning, i have only two months of it,thanks to Thai Postal Service losing my letter to my bank requesting a transfer,and of course my pension is paid into my uk bank so i send for money when i need it.
All was going great until i found out about the seasoning part so i am wondering should i get an o visa in another country,albeit i will have to give up my present retirement visa,and then re apply for a retirement.
Whats your thoughts on this line Roger ?.
 

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Re: Retirement extension,help please guys.
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2016, 05:09:22 PM »
Hi B'man.

So your Baht will be only 2 months seasoned at the time you go for renewal next month ? Correct ?

IF you could extend the existing Retirement Visa for 30 days to make up your 90 days seasoned, that would be the best solution but I DON'T know if that is possible. I fear not. Why not go and chat quietly at Immigration and ask for their advice ?

Does your pension equate to B 800,000 p.a. ? If so your Embassy letter is enough.
But if for example, your pension is B 600,000 p.a. then you only have to certify B 200,000 in your Bank Book for the 3 months ? ? ?

The bad news is that if your Retirement Visa lapses AT ALL you may have to start the whole onerous process all over again including UK Police Reports and B3000 security money, (no receipt).

These are just my thoughts but you need to check it out at Dan Kwian. Also Thaiga, JohnnieF and others may have thoughts.

Good Luck !  8)


 
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Offline thaiga

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« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2016, 06:39:14 PM »
Why not go and chat quietly at Immigration and ask for their advice ?

Yes roger that's the best advice, although there answer might vary from day to day
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Re: Retirement extension,help please guys.
« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2016, 07:51:00 PM »
Thaiga maybe - in which case go to DK more than once.
Good if they get to know your friendly face. And feel some obligation. Get them on your side. Who knows ?
Can a Retirement Visa be extended 30 days ? No idea. ATB
 
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« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2016, 09:15:08 PM »
You could always ask here

Legal Questions? Ask Siam Legal

http://www.thaiimmigration.net/thai-retirement-visa.html
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Re: Retirement extension,help please guys.
« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2016, 06:04:39 AM »
B'man - if you had enough money in your account before you moved it to Korat, I would get the other branch to certify that too and turn up at Dan Kwian with both certifications covering the 3 months required.
I don't see how Immigration can refuse you then - the point is surely that you had the funds available in Thailand and that your account is now in Korat. Keep cool and ask to see the Boss Man/Lady even.
As Thaiga suggests, ask Siam Legal for advice on this specific point.
Good fun innit ?
 
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« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2016, 08:14:20 AM »
Hi Roger.

My branch is the one at Save-One.  Perhaps every branch has its own policy.
 

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« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2016, 05:50:52 PM »
Hi BF - That's very strange. I wonder if your Branch is a BKK sub-Branch ?
If so you could move it to a BKK main-Branch.
Chok Chai does have a Manager on site ...
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« Reply #15 on: February 16, 2016, 06:44:17 PM »

Which ever way it goes BANNERMAN good luck and would be interested to know how you get on.

Keep us posted

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Re: Retirement extension,help please guys.
« Reply #16 on: February 17, 2016, 08:45:16 AM »
Good morning all,this is just an update on the latest....Went to immigration yesterday am,asked to see the senior officer on duty...no can see he busy,what you want....i explained my problem and could you help in anyway...NO...could you please advise me what i can do.....yes,GO HOME,gave me my passport back and walked away....Well i must have looked despondent because as i was walking out another im officer asked me if anything wrong i said yes and he said come and sit here sir and tell me your problem,this was a very nice professional guy,after  repeating the problem again he said that it is now the law,so i have to accept it.
Went home sent an email to Siam Legal and Thai Consul in Hull.
Received a reply from Hull this am...You could go to another country for an o visa or if you are coming to the uk then we can issue you with the 0 for 60/90 days based on a pensioner receiving a monthly pension from uk.
Still waiting for a reply from Siam Legal who i think can get the 0 from within Thailand,have to wait and see.
I want to thank you guys...Roger...thaiga...Baby Farts...for your help and professionalism,god bless you all.   
 

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Re: Retirement extension,help please guys.
« Reply #17 on: February 17, 2016, 08:47:01 AM »
Hi BF - That's very strange. I wonder if your Branch is a BKK sub-Branch ?
If so you could move it to a BKK main-Branch.
Chok Chai does have a Manager on site ...
ATB

Hi Rog.  Perhaps they are.  They don't even take a cheque from my country to deposit to my account.  I have to do that at The Mall.  Might be time for a move.  The only thing is the Save-One branch is close to my home.
 

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Re: Retirement extension,help please guys.
« Reply #18 on: February 17, 2016, 02:34:27 PM »
Well B'man. 'Now it is the Law'. MMmmm.

Even IF that is so, I wonder why ?
I mean, all they need to be sure of is that you have funds available in Thailand so that you are OK.
What if you've just moved from say Phuket to Chiang Mai.
What the hell does it matter which bank in Thailand it is in ?
Sometimes one can feel a little less than welcome here - it's obstructive for no reason.

But at least you have brought this new 'law' to our notice.

Hard luck. Please advise us how you get on.
 

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« Reply #19 on: February 17, 2016, 03:29:22 PM »
Hi Roger,i have looked at the police guidelines and nothing is mentioned about the seasoning for the combo, only the 800,000 method,which means they are in fact breaking the law.
 

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« Reply #20 on: February 18, 2016, 01:03:42 PM »
That's tough Bannerman, and a shame, if i'm correct you've been here a long time, which one might of thought would give you that little bit of leeway

I take it you are/was the bookshop guy @ patts.

It's only the BAD GUYS that's making these stringent rules coming into force.

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« Reply #21 on: February 18, 2016, 06:48:23 PM »
Hello Bannerman.  I have a Non O visa based on Marriage.  I have just renewed it for the second time.  I do not have to show any money in any bank account only proof of the 40,000 baht income per month.  I believe that the same applies for a person who is not married except that non married persons have to show proof of an income of 60,000 baht per month.  I was told by Thai Immigration that this was the simplest method of obtaining a visa (Monthly Income).  I'm certain Thai Siam Legal can give you correct advice.
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« Reply #22 on: February 18, 2016, 09:34:45 PM »
Hi thaiga please excuse my dumbness but what do you mean....i take it you are/was the bookshop guy @ patts...? ? ?
 

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« Reply #23 on: February 18, 2016, 09:45:06 PM »
Hi Aussie thanks for your input,i want to do the combo method but i am short on the seasoning by about five weeks,thanks to Thai mail who lost my letter to my uk bank requesting a transfer,so as i have been told i can't renew my extension it looks like a trip out of the country for an 0 visa.
PS...I have sent an email to Siam Legal and am awaiting a reply....Cheers
 

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Re: Retirement extension,help please guys.
« Reply #24 on: February 19, 2016, 01:22:11 AM »
Hi thaiga please excuse my dumbness but what do you mean....i take it you are/was the bookshop guy @ patts...? ? ?
No no my wrong, there must be another Bannerman, this guy had a bookshop in Soi Buakhoa way back in 2007.
That's bad news having to take trip out n back, Good luck M8, let us know how it goes. :cheers
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« Reply #25 on: February 19, 2016, 06:54:38 AM »
Hey Roger.

Yesterday, the Bangkok Bank rep came over to our house to have us sign some health insurance documents (yeah I signed up as it looked pretty darn good).  Anyway, I brought up the issue of the document (Visa) needed to validate my bank account and that other branches do it on the spot.  The rep's response to me was that they send it to Bangkok to make sure it's 100% correct and valid (I guess they don't their own work lol).  Anyway, I was told I could have it done here and not have to have it sent to Bangkok.  Oh well. 
 

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Re: Retirement extension,help please guys.
« Reply #26 on: February 19, 2016, 10:50:37 AM »
Hi guys,
Just had a reply from the legal firm and says....for renewals,it is three months seasoning you need whether it is the full 800,000 baht or the combination way....So its a cert for a trip out and back for my visa.
 

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« Reply #27 on: February 19, 2016, 02:26:14 PM »
Yes B'man but they haven't really answered the question .....
3 months seasoning in a Thailand bank or in a Korat bank.
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« Reply #28 on: February 27, 2016, 04:03:00 PM »
Whilst perusing the Guardian today, an advert popped up for 'no problem' Visa services in Thailand.
Have a look at Speedy-visa.com or ring 087 941 0081 ?
I knew someone who used such services EVERY year for many years and it cost B25K - that looks a lot on the face of it but my last multi-entry visa cost B11K including a non-receipted B3K 'security check' fee.
Let me say 'I'm not sure how this works' BUT maybe worth a look for anyone with struggles.
Just for help. DYOR.
 

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« Reply #29 on: March 10, 2016, 01:33:55 PM »
Asking for advice from JF again really. Sorry JF.
In discussions with Bannerman I mentioned speedy-visa.com who were all over my 'Independent' screen again today.
Do you have any experience or advice re. re. such services ?
Anyone else ?
 

 



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