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Offline thaiga

In the event of death
« on: September 13, 2014, 06:11:07 PM »
In the event of death Obviously your wife being the next of kin takes care of all the necessary arrangements in thailand.

But what happens if your not married anyone know the procedure......
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Re: In the event of death
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2014, 11:49:20 AM »
If I am not mistaken, the embassy will contact the next-of-kin of a decedent. It doesn't matter if he/she has a last will or not. Basically if you are not legally married, your common partner can not do anything much about your body arrangements.
Please correct me if I am wrong. This is my experience when I helped someone else who her common partner died recently. 

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Re: In the event of death
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2014, 12:47:37 PM »
Thanks for your reply.

The reason i ask is, Mrs.t informs me that a farang died near to us and his spouse could not get to cremate him.

First the embassy was informed which in turn informed the next of kin, the next of kin had to fill out a form giving consent and send back to the embassy which then sent the release papers for the hospital.

I'm sure the consent could be done beforehand with the next of kin and a lawyer.
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Re: In the event of death
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2014, 01:10:30 PM »
If I am not mistaken, the embassy will contact the next-of-kin of a decedent. It doesn't matter if he/she has a last will or not. Basically if you are not legally married, your common partner can not do anything much about your body arrangements.
Please correct me if I am wrong. This is my experience when I helped someone else who her common partner died recently.

Spot on!  A close friend of mine lost her American BF last week in a horrible motorcycle accident on the 304.   I was helping assist the Embassy on this particular case and the next of kin.  The process is exactly how you described, though.  The common partner has no say in anything other than handing over the bank book and personal belongings to the proper authorities. 
 

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Re: In the event of death
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2014, 05:41:38 PM »
that's awful what actually happened
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Re: In the event of death
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2014, 01:54:51 AM »
If the deceased happens to be an American military veteran the local VFW can and will provide help. It matters not that the person may or may not be a VFW member.
 

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Re: In the event of death
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2014, 11:14:14 AM »
that's awful what actually happened

This is what happened and what happens when an impatient Thai makes a U-Turn in the fast lane and broadsides an American on his motorbike.   And no he didn't die instantly.  He had to suffer for 9 long hours.  Was this accident preventable?  Absolutely.  Was it the Thai's fault?  Absolutely.  Will the driver have to compensate for anything?  Absolutely not.  Does the Thai driver have any remorse for killing an American because he / she was too impatient to wait for traffic to clear?  Absolutely not.  Why am I posting this?  Live and learn. 
 

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Re: In the event of death
« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2014, 11:19:35 AM »
If the deceased happens to be an American military veteran the local VFW can and will provide help. It matters not that the person may or may not be a VFW member.

Thanks, Al.  He is retired Air Force, but the matter has been resolved already.  Thank you for the information.
 

Offline thaiga

Re: In the event of death
« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2014, 05:56:46 PM »
Yes KTP impatient is the right word.R.I.P.
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Offline thaiga

Re: In the event of death
« Reply #9 on: September 18, 2014, 01:23:06 PM »
Getting back to the op.

So after ten yrs with mrs,t we are finally getting married.
In the event of anything happening it will make life a lot easier all round, making her next of kin.

Korat-Legal - i understand some farang wifes keep their thai name as in id card passport and so on, is that correct.

thanks for the replys all.
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Re: In the event of death
« Reply #10 on: September 19, 2014, 12:05:52 PM »
Congratulations Thaiga.  So are we all invited to the ceremony?
We are masters of the unsaid words, but slaves of those we let slip out. Churchill
 

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Re: In the event of death
« Reply #11 on: September 19, 2014, 01:28:20 PM »
Yes the do is at Hilton Dundee - was that a yes :lol

We had the ceremony 10yrs ago where about 200 people i never knew eat and drank at my expense. :-[

 :cheers thaiga





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Offline thaiga

Re: In the event of death
« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2015, 04:27:26 PM »
Well we finalsed the marriage today after 4 long months of battling the paperwork and the postal system both UK and TH.

Took about 1 hr to complete the forms at the amphur, there was no charge the lady was so nice i left a tip.

If there is any info. anyone needs i would be glad to help. :cheers thaiga
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Re: In the event of death
« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2015, 01:24:22 PM »
Getting back to the op.

So after ten yrs with mrs,t we are finally getting married.
In the event of anything happening it will make life a lot easier all round, making her next of kin.

Korat-Legal - i understand some farang wifes keep their thai name as in id card passport and so on, is that correct.

thanks for the replys all.

THAIGA,

That's what Mrs KC and I have done, she kept her Maiden name and saved having to change all her Thai documents.

KC
 

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Re: In the event of death
« Reply #14 on: April 17, 2015, 01:57:43 PM »
                               

Hi, CONGRATULATIONS KC

The main reason for keeping her own name was, she is my beneficiary to my will in the UK in her thai name.

Yes too many documents to change.GOOD LUCK. THAIGA
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Re: In the event of death
« Reply #15 on: August 30, 2015, 12:44:45 PM »
Apologies for being late on the scene here - and congratulations on your marriage Thaiga.

The original question related to disposal of the deceased. Once married, the spouse is the next of kin and can control funeral proceedings. Just for the record a death in Thailnd must be reported to the police within 24 hours. In the case of the UK, British Embassy approval is required before a body can be released for cremation (fee involved!).

My Thai Will states that I wish to be cremated "in the country in which I die" - I imagine in Thailand I will be burned before anyone thinks to look at the Will! Having a Thai Will is not really necessary unless you hold your visa extension money in the bank - or have specific wishes for disposal of your remains.

Until recently Thaiga's marriage would have reaped other rewards for his wife - or, rather widow in the event of his demise. A Thai widow would have been eligible for a Bereavement Payment of GBP 2,000, plus the possibility of Bereavement Allowance or Widowed Parents Allowance. Unfortunately, with effect from 6 April 2016 these will only be paid if the widow is resident in the UK. Another squeeze on UK expats living in Thailand.

Many UK expats are unaware of the valuable legacy they can leave a partner via their occupational pension scheme. Recently, an expat said to me that he thought his wife would be entitled to 25% of his pension for 3 years after his death. Upon enquiry this turned out to be 50% for LIFE!

In another case a Thai widow was expecting nothing and in fact received a lifetime pension of 40,000 Baht per month (a king's ransom for many Thai ladies!). In addition she was entitled to a further 20,000+ Baht per month (for 10 years) for her 8 year old son (fathered by an earlier Farang!).
 
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Re: In the event of death
« Reply #16 on: August 30, 2015, 06:16:00 PM »
Thanks Newbie.
Important things to consider.
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Re: In the event of death
« Reply #17 on: August 30, 2015, 11:16:35 PM »
Hi thaiwidowsandexpats thanks for the reply and welcome to the forum

The main reason for the marriage was as in the event of death it would make mrs.t the next of kin and at a time like death you don't want added problems as in trying to track down my family.

yes roger, Important things to consider.  :cheers
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