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Re: Trump wins presidency
« Reply #30 on: November 21, 2016, 03:22:01 PM »
was he a billionaire ;)
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Re: Trump wins presidency
« Reply #31 on: November 21, 2016, 05:45:15 PM »
Those were Chicks, not chickens  ;D
 

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Re: Trump wins presidency - Get yer TRUMP masks ere
« Reply #32 on: November 22, 2016, 12:39:39 AM »
TRUMP mask anyone  8)

Donald Trump presidency boosts Japan mask maker
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Re: Trump wins presidency
« Reply #33 on: November 22, 2016, 08:18:40 AM »

Halloween is over  :lol
 
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Re: Trump wins presidency
« Reply #34 on: November 22, 2016, 01:58:01 PM »
I hope your right jivvy  :-[
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Offline Johnnie F.

Re: Trump wins presidency
« Reply #35 on: November 23, 2016, 04:23:29 PM »
Did Trump triumph too soon?

Experts Urge Clinton Campaign to Challenge Election Results in 3 Swing States
By Gabriel Sherman

Hillary Clinton is being urged by a group of prominent computer scientists and election lawyers to call for a recount in three swing states won by Donald Trump, New York has learned. The group, which includes voting-rights attorney John Bonifaz and J. Alex Halderman, the director of the University of Michigan Center for Computer Security and Society, believes they’ve found persuasive evidence that results in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania may have been manipulated or hacked. The group is so far not speaking on the record about their findings and is focused on lobbying the Clinton team in private.

Last Thursday, the activists held a conference call with Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta and campaign general counsel Marc Elias to make their case, according to a source briefed on the call. The academics presented findings showing that in Wisconsin, Clinton received 7 percent fewer votes in counties that relied on electronic-voting machines compared with counties that used optical scanners and paper ballots. Based on this statistical analysis, Clinton may have been denied as many as 30,000 votes; she lost Wisconsin by 27,000. While it’s important to note the group has not found proof of hacking or manipulation, they are arguing to the campaign that the suspicious pattern merits an independent review — especially in light of the fact that the Obama White House has accused the Russian government of hacking the Democratic National Committee.

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Re: Trump wins presidency
« Reply #36 on: November 23, 2016, 04:26:39 PM »
"It's not the people who vote that count. It's the people who count the votes."
 (Joseph Stalin)
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Re: Trump wins presidency
« Reply #38 on: November 24, 2016, 02:33:10 PM »
Yes Baby Farts but 1 TRILLION $ lost in the bond market since Nov 8 ... tell you anything?
Trump has become part of the "swamp" just like every other politicians ..  reneging on all his promises ... build the wall ... now maybe a fence ?
Day one deport 11 million illegals .. now maybe deport 2 or 3 million and see about the rest of the "good" people that he called rapists before
Threatened to jail Hillary now she is a good person and does not want to do anything divisive .. hahahaha after what he was saying about gays, women, mexicans, POWs , Military Generals, Muslims, Gold Star families, etc etc etc
And he did lose by almost 2 million votes ... he was the one in 2012 that said the Electoral College was undemocratic and should be abolished and made the US the laughing stock of the world and now it appears it is okay??
 
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Re: Trump wins presidency
« Reply #39 on: November 24, 2016, 02:38:42 PM »
If there are reasonable doubts about the legitimacy of the election, understandable suspicions of it having been rigged, it needs to be investigated and the outcome rectified, no matter who appears to have lost or won. That decision should be left to trained and independant judges. That the Democrats have to ask for and bear the costs, is not fair IMO. I can fully understand that supporters of HC are very upset now hearing those doubts. They'll just widen the apparent split through the US's society, if not dealt with properly. 
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Re: Trump wins presidency
« Reply #40 on: November 24, 2016, 06:12:54 PM »
Anyone who goes to a psychiatrist should have his head examined.
 

Offline Al

Re: Trump wins presidency
« Reply #41 on: November 24, 2016, 06:31:12 PM »
Just because someone cries wolf does not necessarily indicate anything. I think that the entity who is asking for the recount etc should foot the bill. If not for that the US could face a never ending litany of perceived slights and irregularities every election. Individual states in the instance of statewide elections, as well as the federal government have the same "you want a recount, you pay for it" policy.

I also think that this election proved the worth of the US Electoral College System. For example, assuming that the popular vote differential remains the same, Clinton won CA by 3.5 million votes, which means, in my opinion of course, that this one state would have effectively decided the election if it had been decided via popular vote.

The fact is both candidate campaigns developed tactical and strategic plans to obtain the necessary number of electoral votes. If there was no Electoral College, those tactics and strategies would have been significantly different.

The other component is there is a great deal of analysis that seems to indicate that Clinton ran a pretty crappy campaign. That data tells us that many voters - men, women, minorities etc who previously voted for Obama voted for Trump this time. Clinton had no compelling reason for voters to choose her, just more of the same. States and regions that previously chose Obama went for Trump. It seems that many, when seeing more of the same for themselves and their children decided to overlook Trump's darker edges and take a chance on a true outsider. The sooner US liberals realize this and stop labeling everyone who voted for Trump as stupid, racist etc, the sooner they can get back in the mix. As it now stands, throughout statewide legislature and governorship elections the Republicans had an overwhelming victory.
 
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Re: Trump wins presidency
« Reply #42 on: November 24, 2016, 08:02:11 PM »
be careful they might put a gag order on you :-X
 

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Re: Trump wins presidency
« Reply #43 on: November 25, 2016, 06:31:40 AM »
Al,

That's exactly why the  US Electoral College System is in place.

Koratbob,

Trump is not even in office yet.  How can you judge a man who hasn't even started his job yet?  Wait until he gets sworn in and then see what gets done. Faster U.S. growth and inflation lead investors to favor stocks over bonds. Trump never called the "good" immigrants rapists and murderers, he was referring specifically to the ones that are bad.  It's the same with the ban of Muslims.  He never said it was permanent, nor did he say the Muslims living here already have to get out.  This is what the media and liberals do.....twist things and take things out of context....like the wall.  Did Trump specifically say a concrete wall or was he referring to some kind of barrier? I mean really?  Who gives a sht whether its a wall or fence.  The idea is to create a barrier and secure our borders, because they certainly are not secured now.

The laughing stock of the world right now is Hillary who thought (along with other liberals) that she had the presidency in the bag.  Didn't happen and people can complain, whine, cry, consult with therapy dogs (true), and special counselors to help get over this tragic event.  College professors can also continue to urge their students to walk out of their classes and miss exams in protest, and still get credit for it!  Wow.  The best was the sit down cry party at one university. You tell me who people are laughing at and who are the ones doing the crying.
 

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Re: Trump wins presidency
« Reply #44 on: November 25, 2016, 09:00:48 AM »
Guess you should read the news first, BF! After Jill Stein from the Green Party raised the 2.4 million bucks for the recount within 48 hours, things might turn out different soon.
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Re: Trump wins presidency
« Reply #45 on: November 27, 2016, 12:29:39 PM »
Most Thais say Trump not favourable to them: Poll

Most of Thai people say if they were Americans they would not have elected Donald Trump for president, according to the result of an opinion poll carried out by National Institute of Development Administration, or Nida Poll.

The poll was conducted on Nov 23-25 on 1,251 Thai people with a bachelor's degree education and avove throughout the country to compile their opinions on the election of Donald Trump as 45th president of the United States.

Asked whether they would vote for Mr Trump if they were American citizens, most of the respondents, or 48.68%, said "no"; 41.69% said "yes"; and the rest were not certain.

Asked what they thought the US would be like with Mr Trump as president, the respodents said the US would become more protectionist in trade and this would have a negative impact on Thai exports (23.58%); Mr Trump would make the US economy stronger (22.22%); the world economy and security would become uncertain (20.70%); Mr Trump would run the US administration as a CEO of a business firm (17.83%); American people had set their own trap by electing a nationalist and racist with no respect for women's rights (17.67%); the US jobless rate would drop because of the anti-immgrant policy (15.43%); and, the US would reduce its role as world police and the world would be more in peace (15.03%).

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Re: Trump wins presidency
« Reply #46 on: November 28, 2016, 08:07:02 AM »
Most Thais say Trump not favourable to them: Poll

Most of Thai people say if they were Americans they would not have elected Donald Trump for president, according to the result of an opinion poll carried out by National Institute of Development Administration, or Nida Poll.

The poll was conducted on Nov 23-25 on 1,251 Thai people with a bachelor's degree education and avove throughout the country to compile their opinions on the election of Donald Trump as 45th president of the United States.

Asked whether they would vote for Mr Trump if they were American citizens, most of the respondents, or 48.68%, said "no"; 41.69% said "yes"; and the rest were not certain.

Asked what they thought the US would be like with Mr Trump as president, the respodents said the US would become more protectionist in trade and this would have a negative impact on Thai exports (23.58%); Mr Trump would make the US economy stronger (22.22%); the world economy and security would become uncertain (20.70%); Mr Trump would run the US administration as a CEO of a business firm (17.83%); American people had set their own trap by electing a nationalist and racist with no respect for women's rights (17.67%); the US jobless rate would drop because of the anti-immgrant policy (15.43%); and, the US would reduce its role as world police and the world would be more in peace (15.03%).

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Meaningless, inconsequential information, although I must admit that Thai people calling Trump a racist is pretty funny.
 

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Re: Trump wins presidency
« Reply #47 on: November 28, 2016, 09:45:07 AM »

There can be only one consequence to this: Vote again, America, but wiser this time! Until then Obama should keep office.
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Re: Trump wins presidency
« Reply #48 on: November 28, 2016, 09:57:11 AM »

There can be only one consequence to this: Vote again, America, but wiser this time! Until then Obama should keep office.


Yup, just keeping changing and making up the rules until the outcome is one you agree with. Luckily and thankfully the US Constitution and election process do not work like that.
 

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Re: Trump wins presidency
« Reply #49 on: November 28, 2016, 10:20:17 AM »
Yup, just keeping changing and making up the rules until the outcome is one you agree with. Luckily and thankfully the US Constitution and election process do not work like that.

A "president-elect" shouldn't declare his election as rigged, either! :-[

It's his right to say that he was not really elected - and waive his "win".  ;D
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Re: Trump wins presidency
« Reply #50 on: November 28, 2016, 10:30:31 AM »
A "president-elect" shouldn't declare his election as rigged, either! :-[

It's his right to say that he was not really elected - and waive his "win".  ;D

I wish he would do a better job of keeping his mouth shut. However, no matter what happens Obama's presidency ends in January.
 

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Re: Trump wins presidency
« Reply #51 on: November 28, 2016, 11:34:08 AM »
I wish he would do a better job of keeping his mouth shut.

No doubt, he's doing a good job as comedian!

However, no matter what happens Obama's presidency ends in January.

And who's gonna play that role, if the Trump election drama still keeps going, whatever the next act might be?
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Offline Al

Re: Trump wins presidency
« Reply #52 on: November 28, 2016, 01:15:04 PM »
And who's gonna play that role, if the Trump election drama still keeps going, whatever the next act might be?

That is a great question!

https://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/faq.html
 

Online nan

Re: Trump wins presidency
« Reply #53 on: November 28, 2016, 03:10:40 PM »
it's understandable that some might be upset at this guy being the leader of one of the most powerful countries in the world
oh! and it shows ;)
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Re: Trump wins presidency
« Reply #54 on: November 28, 2016, 03:34:04 PM »
it's understandable that some might be upset at this guy being the leader of one of the most powerful countries in the world
oh! and it shows ;)

No matter who wins an election there is a winner and a loser, and some are happy and some are not. And elections have consequences.

Such is life.
 

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Re: Trump wins presidency
« Reply #55 on: November 29, 2016, 10:02:08 AM »
Most Thais say Trump not favourable to them: Poll

Most of Thai people say if they were Americans they would not have elected Donald Trump for president, according to the result of an opinion poll carried out by National Institute of Development Administration, or Nida Poll.

The poll was conducted on Nov 23-25 on 1,251 Thai people with a bachelor's degree education and avove throughout the country to compile their opinions on the election of Donald Trump as 45th president of the United States.

Asked whether they would vote for Mr Trump if they were American citizens, most of the respondents, or 48.68%, said "no"; 41.69% said "yes"; and the rest were not certain.

Asked what they thought the US would be like with Mr Trump as president, the respodents said the US would become more protectionist in trade and this would have a negative impact on Thai exports (23.58%); Mr Trump would make the US economy stronger (22.22%); the world economy and security would become uncertain (20.70%); Mr Trump would run the US administration as a CEO of a business firm (17.83%); American people had set their own trap by electing a nationalist and racist with no respect for women's rights (17.67%); the US jobless rate would drop because of the anti-immgrant policy (15.43%); and, the US would reduce its role as world police and the world would be more in peace (15.03%).

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These words mean so much coming from people who live in a country that has had 12+ coup detat.  Ask a Thai what the difference is between a democrat and a republican.  "Uh I'm a Capricorn." 

"Most of Thai people say if they were Americans they would not have elected Donald Trump for president, according to the result of an opinion poll carried out by National Institute of Development Administration, or Nida Poll."

LOL.  Most Thais?  From where?  The farm people or the Chinese Bangkokians?  How many is, "Most?"  I wonder how many, "MOST" Thais even understand politics in a modern country, let alone Thailand.
 
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Re: Trump wins presidency
« Reply #56 on: November 29, 2016, 01:52:16 PM »
Ask a Thai what the difference is between a democrat and a republican.  "Uh I'm a Capricorn." 
one wonders why you stay here in thailand,you never have a good word to say about thai people,always run them into the ground as being non educated. what is hurting you so much to hurt others.
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Re: Trump wins presidency
« Reply #57 on: November 29, 2016, 02:51:01 PM »
Guess you should read the news first, BF! After Jill Stein from the Green Party raised the 2.4 million bucks for the recount within 48 hours, things might turn out different soon.

There is no news, only baseless accusations. Both sides and the federal government have all stated that there is no evidence of election wrongdoing. In addition, she missed the deadline for filing for a recount in Pennsylvania,  and virtually all experts say there is no chance of changing and elections results in Wisconsin where she will get a recount. She has also continued to raise the bar on the money needed with no checks and balances on where the money goes.

Also Clinton already conceded. The election is over. Time to move on.

On a side note, the same Clinton lawyers who are supporting this are fighting a Republican Party recount request in the North Carolina governor race, which actually is close enough that the results could actually change.
 

Offline Johnnie F.

Re: Trump wins presidency
« Reply #58 on: November 29, 2016, 07:19:29 PM »
Pressure on the electors seems to mount:



Art Sisneros from Texas already decided not to vote for Trump; he resigned as elector, because he " can’t in good conscience vote for Donald Trump, and yet have sinfully made a pledge that I would, the best option I see at this time is to resign my position as an Elector”, reports the Huffington Post
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Re: Trump wins presidency
« Reply #59 on: November 29, 2016, 08:26:35 PM »
Pressure on the electors seems to mount:



Art Sisneros from Texas already decided not to vote for Trump; he resigned as elector, because he " can’t in good conscience vote for Donald Trump, and yet have sinfully made a pledge that I would, the best option I see at this time is to resign my position as an Elector”, reports the Huffington Post


I would hardly call one guy waffling as mounting pressure. This is wishful thinking from a left wing internet rag.
 

 



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