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Offline thaiga

Re: Trump wins presidency
« Reply #60 on: December 01, 2016, 12:58:53 PM »
House Dems: Trump’s DC hotel a clear conflict of interest

House Democrats say President-elect Donald Trump’s hotel in Washington, D.C., raises alarms about ties between his incoming administration and his business empire.

Four top Dems on Wednesday sent a letter to the General Services Administration (GSA) asking how it will handle the relationship between Trump’s future government and his D.C. Trump International Hotel.

“Mr. Trump’s lease contains a provision specifically barring any ‘elected official of the government of the United States’ from deriving ‘any benefit’ from the agreement. We do not see this as an ambiguous provision, but as a strict and categorical ban,” they said in the letter to GSA Administrator Denise Turner Roth.

“The contractual breach threatened by Mr. Trump’s swearing-in is compounded by the general and egregious conflict of interests posed by his appointing the GSA administrator who will oversee this lease with the hotel,” they added.

“This is not a hypothetical conflict — there is a clear and very real conflict that will be triggered the moment Mr. Trump is sworn in as president of the United States unless concrete steps are taken now to avert it.”

Wednesday’s letter was signed by Rep. Elijah Cummings (D-Md.), the ranking member of the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform.

It was also signed by Rep. Peter DeFazio (D-Ore.), the ranking member of the Committee on Transportation, and Reps. Gerald Connolly (D-Va.) and Andre Carson (D-Ind.).

The quartet argued Trump could not avoid violating his hotel lease by transferring his business interests to his family: “Even if Mr. Trump transfers control of the Trump International Hotel to his children or places it into a trust, he will still derive a financial benefit, thereby violating the terms of the lease.”

The D.C. Trump International Hotel opened last month after $200 million in renovations and is not actually owned by Trump. Trump signed a 60-year lease for the building from the federal government, directly tying him to the historic headquarters of the U.S. Post Office.

Critics have repeatedly warned that Trump’s business interests may have undue influence over his incoming presidency.

Trump said earlier Wednesday he plans on announcing in December the details of leaving his business “in total” to focus on the presidency.

The president-elect has frequently indicated he wants his children to assume control of his business, but questions remain about the ethics and logistics of that move.

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Donald Trump to leave business 'in total' to concentrate on running the US
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Offline Johnnie F.

Re: Trump wins presidency
« Reply #61 on: December 02, 2016, 08:09:40 AM »
Good article by Bernie Sanders in the Washington Post "Carrier just showed corporations how to beat Donald Trump" about him "buying" some jobs from getting outsourced to Mexico, giving the company tax and regulatory favors that the corporation has sought. Just a short few months ago, Trump was pledging to force United Technologies (the company that owns Carrier) to “pay a darn tax.”

Is that Trump's wall to Mexico, waiving tax money to reduce companies' going abroad for cheaper labor instead of letting the laborers come to the US and spend most of their earnings there again, increasing the US's domestic demand? How shortsighted that guy is!
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Offline Al

Re: Trump wins presidency
« Reply #62 on: December 02, 2016, 09:48:56 AM »
Good article by Bernie Sanders in the Washington Post "Carrier just showed corporations how to beat Donald Trump" about him "buying" some jobs from getting outsourced to Mexico, giving the company tax and regulatory favors that the corporation has sought. Just a short few months ago, Trump was pledging to force United Technologies (the company that owns Carrier) to “pay a darn tax.”

Is that Trump's wall to Mexico, waiving tax money to reduce companies' going abroad for cheaper labor instead of letting the laborers come to the US and spend most of their earnings there again, increasing the US's domestic demand? How shortsighted that guy is!


First off, Trump did not "give the company tax and regulatory favors," that was a state issue, not a federal one. And of course one would expect nothing but disdain from old socialist Bernie Sanders. Obama also previously attempted to make fun of Trump's promise to keep the Carrier jobs in the US. Now, with Clinton loosing the election, largely due to her campaign's imcompetence, and the net result being the destruction of everything that represents Obama's hoped for legacy as well as the current democrat party, I wonder who is laughing now.

http://www.therebel.media/flashback_obama_mocked_trump_for_saying_he_would_keep_cartier_jobs_in_the_us
 

Offline Johnnie F.

Re: Trump wins presidency
« Reply #63 on: December 02, 2016, 11:29:04 AM »
What's the use of spilling hatred against other politician's and twisting facts, Al?  :-[

The facts of their doings are in plain sight. This thread is about Trump and his doings. Since when does the President-elect take care of Indiana state affairs?

Obviously not he alone thought that important enough to take care of it personally:



http://www.theindychannel.com/news/local-news/carrier-releases-details-about-agreenment-with-trump-administration-to-stay-in-indiana







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Offline Al

Re: Trump wins presidency
« Reply #64 on: December 02, 2016, 12:48:45 PM »
I apologize if you take my comments as spewing hatred. Actually I avoid most political discussions on the internet, and have gotten into it a bit here, I guess primarily because I see the need to discuss with people such as yourself, who are non American. Add to the fact that you quote Bernie Sanders as a reasonable, non partisan opinionater (is that a word?) and here I am.

Trump campaigned on loosening regulations, so that should be no surprise to anyone. In this case, it appears that the big selling point for the company to remain in Indiana were the tax breaks that that state offered - that is something that is done throughout the country - I would hope that numbers are run and analyzed on costs vs. benefits before agreements are sealed. And again, that is a state issue, not a federal one. Either way Obama seemed to take pride in his opinion that keeping that corp in the US could not be done, and Trump did it.

Actually - full disclosure - I found little or nothing to like about either of the major presidential candidates this time around and even less concerning the third party candidates. My loyalty lies in the system, the Electoral College and the rules and laws. I am offended by those who seem to want to change the rules now that their candidate lost, knowing full well that neither candidate would take losing very well.

Your point where you stated, "Is that Trump's wall to Mexico, waiving tax money to reduce companies' going abroad for cheaper labor instead of letting the laborers come to the US and spend most of their earnings there again, increasing the US's domestic demand? How shortsighted that guy is!" is misleading, and perhaps spewing hatred as well. Trump, and his supporters are against illegal immigration - name me another major country that allows open borders and people flowing, absolutely unrestricted, across those borders to be embraced with health care etc. Immigration is important, but it should be legal and controlled. That does not seem as such a wild idea to me.

US manufacturing jobs have been lost in huge numbers over the past many years and Trump capitalized on that fact. The problem is that many, if not most were lost due to automation, and will never be back. His ideas on trade worry me greatly, because I am a free trade guy. I think trade agreements between regions and countries eventually raises all ships and one country cannot penalize other countries for very long without expecting a great deal of backlash. Look back at the Smoot Hawley tariff act, which was the primary cause of the great depression.

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Offline Baby Farts

Re: Trump wins presidency
« Reply #65 on: December 02, 2016, 01:03:48 PM »
one wonders why you stay here in thailand,you never have a good word to say about thai people,always run them into the ground as being non educated. what is hurting you so much to hurt others.

I know why I'm here and it certainly isn't because of the lucrative opportunities Thailand has to offer foreigners. I'll give you a hint....I get plenty of it. Why are you here?
 

Offline nan

Re: Trump wins presidency
« Reply #66 on: December 02, 2016, 02:02:58 PM »
I get plenty of it
but can you eat it  :lol :lol :lol

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Offline Johnnie F.

Re: Trump wins presidency
« Reply #67 on: December 02, 2016, 03:42:46 PM »
I apologize if you take my comments as spewing hatred. Actually I avoid most political discussions on the internet, and have gotten into it a bit here, I guess primarily because I see the need to discuss with people such as yourself, who are non American. Add to the fact that you quote Bernie Sanders as a reasonable, non partisan opinionater (is that a word?) and here I am.

You seem to think, if people are not American, they can't know about America or its polticians, they need to be taught by you. Then you "grade" other opinionators (yes, it is a word!) by their political ideas instead of their ability to discuss.

Back to the topic: I referred to an article by Bernie Sanders, in which he criticised Trump for selling tax favors as a bad example. And how did you comment on that? "And of course one would expect nothing but disdain from old socialist Bernie Sanders." No substance at all in that already. And on you go with a tirade on Clinton and Obama. As if they had anything to do with Trump trading tax favors and selling that to his voters as improvement.

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Offline Al

Re: Trump wins presidency
« Reply #68 on: December 02, 2016, 04:23:16 PM »
In previous posts concerning the US court system I corrected your errors, so I suspect that you are not as smart as you think you are on subjects related to the US.

To conclude that any politician, especially one as left as Bernie Sanders - and yes the far right as well - is simply crafting an unbiased perspective of an accomplishment from someone of the opposing party is naive.

I brought Obama and Clinton into the equation because of Obama's wrong headed conclusion concerning the saving of the jobs. I don't recall that he tried. And then in the last day or so his White House staff provided petty, in my mind, comments concerning this issue. So yes, he is a part of the equation. As are you with your simplistic comments concerning the US/Mexico border.

It seems to me that when one disagrees with your opinion, you are offended.

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Offline Johnnie F.

Re: Trump wins presidency
« Reply #69 on: December 02, 2016, 07:03:02 PM »
In previous posts concerning the US court system I corrected your errors, so I suspect that you are not as smart as you think you are on subjects related to the US.

Your "correcting errors" still cannot change my opinion, that big parts of the US judicial system are not fair and need improvement.

To conclude that any politician, especially one as left as Bernie Sanders - and yes the far right as well - is simply crafting an unbiased perspective of an accomplishment from someone of the opposing party is naive.

Guess it's not possible for you to look at the arguments only, without biased regard to the person, who brought the argument.

It seems to me that when one disagrees with your opinion, you are offended.

Guess you don't understand the effect of your own words. For example, calling others "not as smart as (they) think" might be a compliment in your eyes. But I can't imagine many people sharing your view.
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Offline thaiga

Re: Trump, backers ask courts to halt or block 3 state recounts
« Reply #70 on: December 03, 2016, 06:02:13 PM »
Trump, backers ask courts to halt or block 3 state recounts

President-elect Donald Trump and his supporters went to court Friday to prevent or halt election recounts in Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, less than two weeks before the states would have to complete the tasks to meet a federal deadline to certify their election results.

"In an election already tainted by suspicion, previously expressed by Donald Trump himself, verifying the vote is a common-sense procedure that would address concerns around voter disenfranchisement, "Stein said in a statement. "Trump's desperate attempts to silence voter demands raise a simple question: why is Donald Trump afraid of these recounts?"

full article wtol.com
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Offline Johnnie F.

Re: Trump wins presidency
« Reply #71 on: December 04, 2016, 09:39:44 AM »
Even Sarah Palin now criticises Trump's tax deal with Carrier. Guess he should have given her a position in his cabinet in time. :evilgrin

"I am ecstatic for Carrier employees! Their bosses just decided to keep shop onshore. What a relief for hundreds of workers. Merry Christmas Indiana!

We don’t yet know terms of the public/private deal that was cut to make the company stay, but let’s hope every business is equally incentivized to keep Americans working in America."

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Offline Baby Farts

Re: Trump wins presidency
« Reply #72 on: December 04, 2016, 10:53:04 AM »
I feel somewhat remorse for even starting this topic. So much negativity, and I'll be the first to raise my hand and say I'm guilty of it too.  The left, the right....it's almost like Thailand with the red shirts, yellow shirts, black shirts, and so on.  If I've offended anyone in this thread, I offer my humble apologies, especially to Nan for the hurtful comments I made in a previous post.
 
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Offline thaiga

Re: Trump wins presidency
« Reply #73 on: December 04, 2016, 12:32:39 PM »
One of the chief concerns of President-elect Donald Trump's detractors during the presidential campaign was that the brash and notoriously loose-lipped real estate executive wouldn't be able to handle the delicate balancing act that is diplomacy. It's one thing to make wild claims domestically; it's another to inflame a fellow world power with a careless word or two. washingtonpost.com

What is the story behind Trump's phone call with Taiwan?
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Offline Johnnie F.

Re: Trump wins presidency - so that's how he won
« Reply #74 on: December 06, 2016, 08:34:34 AM »
Monk Claims His Magic Cloth Helped Donald Trump Win


The contest is on! The Telegraph and others reported beforehand already, what the Brit company Cambridge Analytica now claims, Trump has won the election with their assistance in "audience targeting". In other words they claim to have helped him with their advice and support find the right way to make people go wrong, told him how to talk, twitter and post on Facebook, so his audience follows him blinded. Interesting theory. They claim to have based their advice on psychograms of voters based on their Facebook activities, so everyone could hear, what he wanted to hear, everyone "cheated himself" with an illusion. Even George Orwell didn't have that much foresight. What, if it's true, if a think tank with their computers and mind-reading software and algorithms can make us vote for politicians against our natural understanding and desire? That company promises: "Our product set lets you control every aspect of your audience engagement by building crucial information flows and behavioral connections.".

Scary enough, that company had also worked for the Brexit!

There is a lengthy article about this in German in the Swiss newspaper tagesanzeiger.ch. You can read it in English via Google translator (or Thai, if you change the target language) using this link
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Offline thaiga

Re: Trump wins presidency - Did Russia help Trump win election
« Reply #75 on: December 11, 2016, 01:31:48 PM »
Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House

washingtonpost.com


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Offline Johnnie F.

Re: Trump wins presidency
« Reply #76 on: December 12, 2016, 08:01:58 AM »
"Trump suggested in the “Fox News Sunday” appearance that he will retain a stake in his business as president, a possibility that has raised questions among ethics experts, and he questioned the idea that making deals for his company from the White House would represent a conflict of interest." )Washington Post

"When I ran, everybody knew that I was a very big owner of real estate all over the world,” Trump said, adding that he would not be involved in the day-to-day management of his company as president. “I’m not going to be doing deals at all. Now that would be — I don’t even know if that’s a conflict. I mean, I have the right to do it. You know, under the law, I have the right to do it."

Guess he doesn't understand, that "being involved" does not necessarily mean to manage it himself, that it means how unlikely it is for him to make unbiased decisions, that it puts a huge burden on the control mechanisms in the US to keep him from abusing his office. And since he his already in disagreement about the CIA's view on Russia having actively supported his election by hacking, and especially since he is not interested in the daily briefings, that he just wants to run the country all by himself and without even hearing the experts advice at all, shows how unfit he is to be president of the US, unless he wants to eliminate democracy and turn it into a banana republic.

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Offline nan

Re: Trump wins presidency
« Reply #77 on: December 13, 2016, 08:59:57 PM »
dear mr trumpet,if you want to impress the people,sell all your assets,giving the money to the poorer people of your much loved country,that would tell the people something about yourself and show your love to the american people.
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Offline thaiga

Re: China warns Trump of 'crushing his own toes' on Taiwan
« Reply #78 on: December 14, 2016, 12:38:58 AM »
China warns Trump of 'crushing his own toes' on Taiwan

China offered its sternest rebuke yet to Donald Trump, saying anyone who challenges Beijing's interests in Taiwan will "lift a rock only to crush his own toes".

"If he tries to sabotage the One China policy or harm China's core interests, ultimately he will lift a rock only to crush his own toes," Chinese foreign minister Wang Yi said Monday in Switzerland according to comments posted on the ministry's web site.

China is closely monitoring developments, he said, issuing a warning against "any person or force in the world" looking to play tough with Beijing on Taiwan.

The comments come after Trump said he could jettison Washington's decades-old "One China policy" -- a diplomatic dodge allowing the US to simultaneously do business with Beijing and Taipei.

On Tuesday Chinese media sent another fusillade toward the "presumptuous and ill-guided" president-elect, slamming his approach to Taiwan as a recipe for disaster.

"Beijing should be prepared for the worst-case scenarios, particularly regarding Taiwan, as a presumptuous and ill-guided Trump looks set to usher in an era of turmoil," the state-run China Daily said in an editorial accompanied by a cartoon of the billionaire politician sitting on a powder keg.

"Trump's bloated and bloating ego may prevent him from seeing that is the likely outcome that lies ahead if he persists with this gamble."

China regards self-ruling Taiwan as part of its own territory awaiting reunification under Beijing's rule.

The nationalistic Global Times newspaper warned Trump in its editorial Tuesday that "pride goes before a fall", and said he had lost the "strategic initiative" by revealing his strategy of "blackmailing" China.

"Especially in the Taiwan Strait, China is now confident enough to arm-wrestle with Trump," it said.

Trump shocked the diplomatic establishment and angered Beijing by speaking directly with Taiwan's leader Tsai Ing-wen after his election victory.

After fierce criticism of the move, he upped the ante, taking to Twitter to ask why he should not be allowed to speak to Tsai, then attacking Chinese foreign and economic policy.

On Sunday, he went a step further, saying he did not see why Washington must "be bound by a One China policy unless we make a deal with China having to do with other things, including trade."

The remarks were a step too far for Beijing, which had initially seemed resigned to taking a wait-and-see approach to the president-elect.

Trump's comments also earned a rare rebuke from the White House, with spokesman Josh Earnest warning the president-elect that Taiwan is not a "bargaining chip".

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Offline Johnnie F.

America's president made by Russia?
« Reply #79 on: December 18, 2016, 08:55:40 AM »
Finally FBI and CIA agree. Will the people from the electoral college take the real steps now? What could be the real steps? Voting for Clinton or voting the whole election void? Could they declare the election void? I guess it's too late for any other option than electing Clinton to keep Russia from pulling the strings for the next four years in the US. Will the electorates dare to take responsibility for their country?


"FBI in agreement with CIA that Russia aimed to help Trump win White House

FBI Director James B. Comey and Director of National Intelligence James R. Clapper Jr. are in agreement with a CIA assessment that Russia intervened in the 2016 election in part to help Donald Trump win the White House, officials disclosed Friday, as President Obama issued a public warning to Moscow that it could face retaliation."

Washington Post
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Re: Trump wins presidency
« Reply #80 on: December 19, 2016, 12:39:00 AM »
J-F I do not agree with the Washington Post.
It is owned now by Jeff Bezos who owns Amazon and is aligned with Democratic party.

Have you read the alternate news to then get the other side of the story, that way one can make a more educated assesment of the who cuffuddle that has happend in Washington.
As for J Comey he has been jumping the fence and doesn't know where to stand, another puppet of the Dem's.

I am not saying Trump is squeaky clean But the Obama, Clinton mess certainly needs draining from the swamp.

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Offline Johnnie F.

Re: Trump wins presidency
« Reply #81 on: December 19, 2016, 10:10:51 AM »
Have you read the alternate news to then get the other side of the story, that way one can make a more educated assesment

You think, I need to make a "more educated assesment"? Since I'm not confined to reading news in English only, of course I read the notable news sites SPIEGEL, ZEIT, WELT, FAZ in my native language German first, before I venture to other international sites like WP, NYT etc. to confirm my opinion formation and post on an online forum. The ownership of a single medium therefore has no impact on my opinion formation.  :)
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Offline thaiga

Re: Trump wins presidency
« Reply #82 on: January 06, 2017, 10:45:26 PM »
Donald Trump Is Understating His Debt by $500 Million

REVEALED: Donald Trump's Debt


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Offline Johnnie F.

Re: Trump wins presidency
« Reply #83 on: January 10, 2017, 07:40:02 PM »
Was it nasty or just logic, when Boris couldn't get a date with BigD for a shot to put in the family album, when he went to Washington? Or was he kept from the risk of meeting him, after he said he feared so:

Boris Johnson: The only reason I wouldn't go to some parts of New York is the real risk of meeting Donald Trump

Mayor of London responds to Donald Trump's controversial comments saying some parts of London were 'no-go areas' because of large Muslim communities


Soul brother Nigel already had 3 dates with BigD, proudly showing pics.

And I thought Melania was the model!
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Offline thaiga

Re: Trump wins presidency - Women's Marches Go Global
« Reply #84 on: January 22, 2017, 06:03:49 PM »
Anti Trump Women's Marches Go Global

Panel Discuss Anti Trump Women's Marches Go Global Saturday #POTUS 1
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Offline Johnnie F.

Re: "Alternative Facts"
« Reply #85 on: January 26, 2017, 10:00:24 AM »
Read The true, correct story of what happened at Donald Trump’s inauguration. That view becomes more understandable after reading about this analysis ;D



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Offline thaiga

Re: Trump wins presidency
« Reply #86 on: January 26, 2017, 01:20:00 PM »
The true correct story, brill, the feeding of the five thousand - but nothing about walking on water ;)

drawing attention away from deception

Secret of magic trick of walking on water revealed
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Offline nan

Re: Trump wins presidency
« Reply #87 on: January 26, 2017, 04:20:09 PM »
walking on thin ice,no problem,perfection ;D
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Offline Johnnie F.

Re: "Alternative Facts"
« Reply #88 on: January 28, 2017, 04:33:20 PM »
A very good analysis of the purpose and danger of Trump's press speaker Sean Spicer hammering "Alternative Facts" into peoples' heads can be read there:

http://www.zeit.de/politik/ausland/2017-01/alternative-facts-donald-trump-sean-spicer-media/komplettansicht

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Offline Johnnie F.

Re: Trump wins presidency
« Reply #89 on: January 31, 2017, 09:14:33 AM »
Theresa May invited Trump to visit the UK. Looks like UK citizens think he should not be allowed to come. There is a petition:

https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/171928

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