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Joining the Other KF
« on: May 26, 2011, 09:09:09 PM »
Hello everybody - this is my first post.

I was wondering why it is so easy to join this forum, whereas the other KF doesn't seem to be acceping new members. I have tried three times and had nothing back. Is it going to shut down? I know that it is meant to be for sale. I would still like to join the other KF.

Can anybody shed any light, as obviously I am unable to ask their members.

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Re: KF doesn't let me join
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2011, 09:35:49 PM »
Hi Toddy,

welcome to our forum. As to your question about the other forum we are as curious as you and eager to know what is going on. There are also a couple more forums in Korat you can join easily. I guess they're all a little different as to content and purpose. The forum you're probably talking about is the only one with a big wall around. It has something to do with its history. In the course of that quite a lot of people were banned from there for dubious reasons or no reason at all. Not everybody was happy getting treated that way. So that forum seems to have developed quite strangely. Have a look in our forum


to form your own opinion. At present there are admins of four forums posting here from time to time. The admin of that other forum was a member here also; but he deleted his own account...

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Re: KF doesn't let me join
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2011, 09:43:56 PM »
Seems to me that if everyone from the other KF joined this forum it would be one big happy(?) family!!

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Re: KF doesn't let me join
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2011, 09:52:44 PM »
The problem the other forum had or made its problem is the reaction to people that can be misunderstood. It seems some felt like they have to teach each other how to behave on their forum instead of trying to understand why somebody does not behave like everybody expects him to and react properly. At the beginning of this forum we had quite a lot of people challenging angry reactions. They just didn't get them, so they moved on to where people became angry.

Why should I spoil my own fun by fighting with somebody who wants to fight only. Arguments can be fun and constructive, no need to become emotional.
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Re: KF doesn't let me join
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2011, 09:57:35 PM »
Jhonnie - agreed that life is too short for all that grief. I sometimes read messages on the other KF in disbelief.

I was joking about one big happy family - impossible!!

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Re: KF doesn't let me join
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2011, 02:20:21 AM »
If members of the other KF are concerned about their forum ceasing to exist, which does seem to be a concern (I have been trying to join said forum without success, though not clear why)  - come and join this forum. What is to stop you?

Guys, I have been reading your posts on Koratforang for months but have been unabale to contribute. Brett, et al, come and join here. Let's make this a thriving, not expiring, site.

At the end of the day I believe that most of us want the same thing - a site to share and learn from common experience (and to have a laugh when warranted).


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Re: KF doesn't let me join
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2011, 08:53:58 PM »
Some, not all of the other (english language Thailand) forums do not like or take kindly to new members that have different viewpoints and opinions registering and posting, and those forums just become more and more isolationist and walled off.
I think this forum(KoratFart) is a great forum though and has a lot of potential to become even better and greater. :)

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Re: KF doesn't let me join
« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2011, 07:57:50 PM »
I think that you are right - there is potential to make this a great forum, but it is really up to the members to do that by contributing. The more people who post regularly the better as we will get diverse views and generate debate/interest.

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Joining the Other KF
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2011, 11:01:37 PM »
I was reading some older stuff on the brotherly (I like that term JF) forum and noticed that lots of people had been having a moan about delays in applications to join being processed. Apparantly applicants were only looked at once a month.

Oh, well there's hope yet - my first application was a little under a month ago. 

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Re: Joining the Other KF
« Reply #9 on: June 03, 2011, 04:24:37 AM »
Yeah, it does take time.  There's been a lot of havoc on that board recently and it was started by a certain individual who was accusing the magnificent trio of hiring Russian hackers to bring down his website.  The topic he started was fine, right up until the point where he started pointing fingers at three innocent people.  If he had omitted the last two sentences of his post, there probably wouldn't have been such a tremendous response.  What's even worse is that when the ones who were attack respond, people object to it.  So in other words, it's okay for SUE-BOY (I love that new nickname) to call people as*holes, Liars, falsely accuse people etc., but when you respond you are ridiculed for it.  Now, he's saying "just let it go."  This response implies that he is guilty of something.  Let what go?  He is facing a long list of charges including Lese Majeste because he tried to frame the admin of this forum by posting links to a book that is banned in Thailand.  The links are identical to the ones that the Thai-American posted and was arrested for last week.

Then there's violation of the computers crimes acts, and the porn / gambling site he was hosting.  He promptly parked it once it was discovered.  There is a post about it here on this forum somewhere.  He also used an Admin;s PW to hack into another forum, tampering with that person's paypal, ebay etc.  Then there are the death threats.  The list goes on and on.  This person has caused a tremendous amount of grief to the community and forums, yet there is still a very small handful of people who support him.  Why?  No idea....perhaps it's because he offers notary services. Big F-ing deal.  Korat has gone downhill since this guy arrived here, but I have a feeling he's not going to be here much longer. A large percentage of the community has had it with him and the damage he has caused to the community.  What he doesn't realize is that when he threatened to kill someone and their family, he was also threatening any Thai family that farang might have... and when you do that, God help you because the Thais have their own way of dealing with idiots like this.  I would really hate to be in his shoes right now and I wonder if he realizes what a world of sh*t he's gotten himself into.

Then there is tubbi***.  Here's a guy who doesn't even live here yet manages to poke his nose into everything and anything.  He once threatened me saying "An old man with lots of money will always have your balls for Christmas."  Well, tubbi, I have more money than you and I would REALLY love to see you face to face to see what you meant by that statement.  He is currently posting on the other forum telling everyone to be nice and respectful to others, blah blah blah.  He is another reason for the decay of that forum.  The bottom line is you're really not missing much if you don't get in.  The forum isn't what it used to be...sad.

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Re: Joining the Other KF
« Reply #10 on: June 03, 2011, 06:57:45 AM »
Oh, well there's hope yet - my first application was a little under a month ago.

Last application was processed April 03, 2011, 09:08:36 PM.  ;)

Tick-tock, tick-tock...
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Re: Joining the Other KF
« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2011, 07:51:38 AM »
Why?  No idea....perhaps it's because he offers notary services. Big F-ing deal.

Surely not! It must be a local experienced and qualified Thai lawyer.

I can recommend a Thai lawyer who speaks English and specialises in working for foreigners. He is also a notary. Additionally, he has book-keeping and accounts staff providing a service to businesses.

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Re: Joining the Other KF
« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2011, 09:17:59 AM »
I wonder how much time, the other guy has actually spent in court aside from defending himself.  When I look to hire a lawyer, I look for someone who has experience in a court of law, who also acts and behaves professionally.  There are three lawyers who sit on our board of directors in the family business and when I showed them the threatening emails, rants, etc., of SUE-BOY they laughed.  They told me that even a first year law student has more brains than this guy.

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Re: Joining the Other KF
« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2011, 10:52:32 AM »
I wonder...

And I wonder what use it is to keep repeating the same over and over again? I think we all do know by now. This thread is about joining the brotherly forum; it shouldn't be hijacked for reminding us of some dark chapter in Korat's expat history we would like to forget about. That a few people don't seem to mind as long as they're not victims themselves cannot be changed by telling over and over again; they just have to make the bitter experience by dealing with that person themselves.

As to the other forum, it appears that another thread containing "offensive" posts by him has been removed during the days of maintenance. Some may call it the hiding of evidence, since there wasn't any abusive posting, only the revelation of his own involvement in criminal actions, in violations of the Computer Crime Act.
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Re: Joining the Other KF
« Reply #14 on: June 03, 2011, 08:54:22 PM »
It's not history yet, that's the problem and you can bet he'll be back at it in no time.

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Re: KF doesn't let me join
« Reply #15 on: June 16, 2011, 04:49:37 PM »
Still no response from the brotherly forum to three requests for admission. Well over a month now. Their last new member was in April, 2011.

As I said on another thread, if you close the door to new members then expect a slow decline and ultimate demise.

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Re: KF doesn't let me join
« Reply #16 on: July 03, 2011, 03:52:40 PM »
Still no response from the brothers - obviously not going to get one now. Still, there is always korat-farang.com which looks remarkably similar......

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Re: KF doesn't let me join
« Reply #17 on: July 03, 2011, 07:36:10 PM »
I did give up waiting already after more than two years. And I had written him such a nice application:


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Re: KF doesn't let me join
« Reply #18 on: July 04, 2011, 08:13:50 AM »
As I said on another thread, if you close the door to new members then expect a slow decline and ultimate demise.

Looks like it went into oblivion already. Today's Alexa stats:
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Re: KF doesn't let me join
« Reply #19 on: July 04, 2011, 08:29:44 AM »
For other notable Korat's foreigner's communication systems it shows as 3 month REACH:

korat-info.com 0.00061 +14% (should actually be higher due to the nonexistance of an Alexa toolbar in german)

koratfart.com 0.00072    +9%

grumpyexpat.com 0.00049 +30%

korat-farang.com 0.00006    no change
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Re: KF doesn't let me join
« Reply #20 on: July 04, 2011, 11:00:04 AM »
What about koratnightlife.com?

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Re: KF doesn't let me join
« Reply #21 on: July 04, 2011, 12:06:30 PM »
What about koratnightlife.com?

Don't tell me you weren't monitoring that yourself for the newest ads!
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Re: KF doesn't let me join
« Reply #22 on: July 04, 2011, 12:23:38 PM »
What about koratnightlife.com?

I think you actually mean another site. To make you understand how demanded that is I gotta be very technical again. Alexa is measuring the visitors to the main domain only, even if you opened a subdomain. If a site is divided into hundreds of subdomains, one for each village in Isaan, you have to divide the value given for the main domain by the number of subdomains to get a not misleading impression of its visitor numbers. Sorry, I couldn't find out the number of subdomains, must be so huge. And the REACH value for the one with the subdomain korat? Looks like that doesn't exist anymore. If you try to open that you get to the main domain only.

Anyway, the values given above were for "notable Korat's foreigner's communication systems". Of what interest is a site's REACH that isn't notable? Probably it is read by the admin himself only. :-[
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Re: KF doesn't let me join
« Reply #23 on: July 05, 2011, 07:21:11 PM »
I see today that they have finally approved some new members. Maybe they are clearing the backlog?? I have not heard anything as yet but live in hope?

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Re: KF doesn't let me join
« Reply #24 on: July 05, 2011, 08:23:58 PM »
I see today that they have finally approved some new members. Maybe they are clearing the backlog?? I have not heard anything as yet but live in hope?

No they haven't. The latest member was approved in April. 3 months ago. Don't forget to include a bid for the forum with your next application. If it's still for sale. Let's have a whip round. I'll start with THB20.

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Re: KF doesn't let me join
« Reply #25 on: July 05, 2011, 08:38:01 PM »
Well someone new posted their first today!!

I've applied 3 times and won't be going back for another try. I think that I've got an old penny knocking around to throw into the communal pot.

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Re: KF doesn't let me join
« Reply #26 on: July 05, 2011, 10:46:16 PM »
Well someone new posted their first today!!


That someone who posted her first posts today joined in July 2010!

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Re: KF doesn't let me join
« Reply #27 on: July 06, 2011, 11:26:44 AM »
Well someone new posted their first today!!


That someone who posted her first posts today joined in July 2010!

Well bugger me!! You are well informed, Fred!

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Re: KF doesn't let me join
« Reply #28 on: July 06, 2011, 11:38:09 AM »
Well someone new posted their first today!!


That someone who posted her first posts today joined in July 2010!

Well bugger me!! You are well informed, Fred!

Thank you for your kind offer, which I will kindly decline  ;D

Click on her profile to see her join date. It is public.

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Re: KF doesn't let me join
« Reply #29 on: July 06, 2011, 12:06:26 PM »
Well someone new posted their first today!!


That someone who posted her first posts today joined in July 2010!


Well bugger me!! You are well informed, Fred!

Thank you for your kind offer, which I will kindly decline  ;D

Click on her profile to see her join date. It is public.

Doh!!!!