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Korat Hacker Talk
« on: May 24, 2011, 09:10:51 PM »
One of the guys running websites in Korat posted on the brotherly forum about hackers targeting his site. He accuses "the usual suspects" in Korat of having hired Russians to hack his site. I can remember a time when he was running a website that was just full of Russian spam, porn, gambling ads etc. Probably under the pressure of Thai laws he stopped operating that website. Could it be that some Russians are angry about him now for not continuing that nightlife site and therefore tried to conquer that other site of his? Lots of theories could be spun around that...   ;)
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Re: Korat Hacker Talk
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2011, 07:40:20 AM »
He seems to be in a bit of a mess with two hackers and no recent back up. If he's done something to upset Russians, he's perhaps lucky that they attacked only his website. I heard that there have been some Russian 'businessmen' in Korat recently.

It serves him right. He did much worse himself a couple of years ago so he gets no sympathy from me.

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Re: Korat Hacker Talk
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2011, 02:20:27 PM »
I heard that there have been some Russian 'businessmen' in Korat recently.

If they ask for his whereabouts I think it fair to put them in the right direction.  :)
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Re: Korat Hacker Talk
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2011, 03:07:53 PM »
Russian 'businessmen'? Do you mean those musicians with the violin cases?

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Re: Korat Hacker Talk
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2011, 09:21:13 PM »
I heard that there have been some Russian 'businessmen' in Korat recently.

If they ask for his whereabouts I think it fair to put them in the right direction.  :)

Naturally! My middle names are Lauren Order. We all know that he is hiding his light under a bushel now but he has to roost at some time or other.

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Re: Korat Hacker Talk
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2011, 09:22:58 PM »
Russian 'businessmen'? Do you mean those musicians with the violin cases?

Exactly, but these days they carry briefcases and don't play music.

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Re: Korat Hacker Talk
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2011, 09:25:41 PM »
I thought that all the Russian dirty money was in Pattaya?

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Re: Korat Hacker Talk
« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2011, 06:44:25 PM »
I heard that there have been some Russian 'businessmen' in Korat recently.

We're getting closer! From that post on koratfarang by some il kid I conclude there must be three of them:

Quote from: Isaan Lawyers
Sincerely, there are some bad people in Korat that really want to make problems.
I know only 3 people who could have spend money to hack this website. Same as suspects as usual.
They should really get a life.

Made me think that he might even have the income certificates of all Korat expats in his dossiers.

But that post really puzzled me:


Quote from: KoratKurt
Quote from: Isaan Lawyers
Thanks. I found 3 of his emails, his IP, found his paypal account, etc.
He is russian, I presume young. Problem seems corrected now.


Didn't you say when you started this topic that it was three people, referring to three people in Korat, because we all know that's what you meant?  You know, when you said "Get a life" and the part about your pathetic speculation that possibly one of, or a combination of three people in Korat would pay a Romanian hacker to post a Russian flag on your website.  Paranoia setting in again?  As usual when something bad happens to you, you go into paranoia mode and start blaming the wrong people.  I'm surprised you didn't ad to your posts, "WE WILL SUE."  You're funnier than the Three Stooges.

Who can help solve this mystery?  ;)
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Re: Korat Hacker Talk
« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2011, 09:55:46 PM »
He claimed to have solved it but hasn't. He's floundering. There's still the messed up old home page. Boy, he's getting a taste of his own medicine. You see, if he solves the problem he will crow as if he's a hero rather than an evil little fool.

JF, are you suggesting that he has information about some local farang that might embarrass them if they stop being his friends? Surely, he wouldn't rat on them to save his own skin. Who's gonna get there first? It's just like a crappy TV movie.

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Re: Korat Hacker Talk
« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2011, 08:39:46 AM »
Let's say he does embarrass people by so openly trying to take them for stupid!

Saf, I sincerely do like your post on KF:

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Quote from: Isaan Lawyers
I can post what was on another Korat forum.
And Cyanid was you.
People are laughing about you because anything I post, you jump on it.
Get a life.

Bonjour Monsieur xxxxxxxxxx.

That's a very old post from Grumpyexpat.com about the security or otherwise of Simple Machines software as it was at the time. I think that you have posted it here previously.

What you seem to have missed, in your glee at having a copy of that item, is that whoever took the screenshot was logged in as Administrator. I am the only legal Administrator of that forum and I didn't take the screenshot. So, Mr. xxxxxxx, please tell us how you managed to get a screenshot of a page that is in a form only I could see legally.

It seems to have become common knowledge that, a couple of years  or so ago, you had in your possession copies of PM's between me and another member. Perhaps it became common knowledge because you were showing those PM's to people in a bar in Korat. The only people who could legally see those PM's were the two people who wrote them. Monsieur xxxxxxxx, kindly explain how you came to have them, please.

As an admin also running a phpBB forum I would like to explain to our readers why it is obvious from that screenshot that it was taken while logged in as admin: That "question mark in the upside triangle" icon above the post next to "QUOTE" is the information button displayed to the admin only. A click on that let's you see which IP that post came from, which other members have posted from that IP as well, and from which other IPs that member has posted as well etc. It holds highly confidential information that is by standard of phpBB3 only accessible to the admin.

Now imagine a lawyer representing you at court who shoots himself, or better shoots you, the client he's representing, in the foot by submitting "evidence" that does nothing but prove himself a criminal. :-[


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Re: Korat Hacker Talk
« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2011, 09:05:53 AM »
Thanks JF! This has been a long time coming but his constant attacks have pushed me -  and I haven't got to the extortion demand and death threat yet. He even made those a public spectacle!

He has attempted to avoid responsibility for illegally obtained data by saying that it came to him from an anonymous person. Perhaps he didn't read the law. Using illegally obtained passwords and disseminating illegally obtained data is in itself a criminal act with sever penalties. His friend should also take note of that.

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Re: Korat Hacker Talk
« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2011, 09:32:12 AM »
One of the favorite expressions of that individual is "Bad Faith". In discussions he keeps using it to criminalize about every fully legal action other people do, insinuating abuse of the law. Now did he act in "Good Faith" publishing obviously by criminal action illegally obtained data in a personal attack? Can he make somebody believe that with all the special knowledge he pretends to have he did not understand the crime committed "collecting that evidence"?  :-[
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Re: Korat Hacker Talk
« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2011, 12:15:10 PM »
Perhaps he either doesn't know the relevant law or thinks he's above it. Whichever, it's bad practice for someone who is an office manager in a law firm. Fancy bragging about breaking the law in writing to several people and threatening a serious criminal act in front of witnesses! If nothing else it shows a lack of common sense.

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Re: Korat Hacker Talk
« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2011, 07:18:48 PM »
As an admin also running a phpBB forum I would like to explain to our readers why it is obvious from that screenshot that it was taken while logged in as admin: That "question mark in the upside triangle" icon above the post next to "QUOTE" is the information button displayed to the admin only. A click on that let's you see which IP that post came from, which other members have posted from that IP as well, and from which other IPs that member has posted as well etc. It holds highly confidential information that is by standard of phpBB3 only accessible to the admin.

Now imagine a lawyer representing you at court who shoots himself, or better shoots you, the client he's representing, in the foot by submitting "evidence" that does nothing but prove himself a criminal. :-[

I marked the indicators now, so one can understand better how obvious that is for an admin familiar with phpBB.
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Re: Korat Hacker Talk
« Reply #14 on: May 29, 2011, 07:06:29 AM »
Wow!  I bet he didn't even realize this when he took the screen shot.  So he was logged in as an Admin.  Even though I am not a member of that forum, this is really starting to piss me off, because here he is on the other forum accusing three people of paying some Romanian hackers to take down his site.  I would take this straight to the police and file a complaint ASAP. 

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Re: Korat Hacker Talk
« Reply #15 on: May 29, 2011, 08:17:09 AM »
The 'Edit' button is also significant. It appears only:

1. On a logged in Member's own posts, allowing him to edit them.

2. On every post by every member for Admin. and Mods., allowing them to edit member's posts when necessary.

The screenshot was, as everyone now understands, taken by someone who was logged in as Administrator. It could not have been the member himself because the Admin. buttons wouldn't show. I have asked on another forum how this came to happen but, so far, there has been no reply.

I have also commented elsewhere on the paper copies of several PM's between me and another member of Grumpy that were shown in a bar in Korat Old Town. You can guess who was showing them and it was not either me or that other member. Much more than this was going on at the time.

All of this was a couple of years ago and I learned a lot about password security from it. There has been no such problem with the forum, my email account, my eBay account or my PayPal account since then.

I notice that a few people on another forum would rather this issue be buried so that they can get on with their own lives as members. Perhaps they don't understand how serious this matter is and what could happen to their own internet accounts if someone like that decided to attack. They really should listen and learn. It's much more important than discussing brands of diapers.

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Re: Korat Hacker Talk
« Reply #16 on: May 29, 2011, 08:40:56 AM »
This is VERY serious and if it were me, I would take it up with law officials immediately.  There is NO-WAY this guy should be allowed to get away with this.  He has CLEARLY broken the law and should face up to the charges.  In is effort to try and discredit someone, he has effectively just shown publicly that this screen shot was taken while someone (other than the real admin) was logged in as the administrator and my money says it was him.  This is a serious offense considering that some of the other things you've mentioned were also looked at and tampered with.  I've pretty much suspected all along who it was, but this clearly proves my suspicions.  I have two of the best lawyers in BBK and if you wish to file a complaint both with the police and these lawyers, let me know.  This guy has gotten completely out of hand now.

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Re: Korat Hacker Talk
« Reply #17 on: May 29, 2011, 08:48:00 AM »
Even if someone else showed him the screen or gave him the screenshot, making it public as he did was also a crime.

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Re: Korat Hacker Talk
« Reply #18 on: May 30, 2011, 04:07:16 AM »
What the hell was he thinking?  Come to think about it, he wasn't thinking.  If you are logged in as admin on a PHbb forum are you able to manipulate user posts or anything else?

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Re: Korat Hacker Talk
« Reply #19 on: May 30, 2011, 05:24:37 AM »
If you are logged in as admin on a PHbb forum are you able to manipulate user posts or anything else?

Apart from viewing and changing PMs or viewing passwords you can view and change just about everything. But there is an admin log that lists when an admin logged into the ACP and which items have been changed, when, by which admin, and from which IP he was logged in then. Maybe that log can supply some more evidence even.
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« Reply #20 on: May 30, 2011, 06:41:06 AM »
Admin. and Mods. are able to edit, delete and move individual posts made by Members. That's an essential function enabling them to remove objectionable material and split and merge topics. Someone who steals the password of Admin. can, therefore, do the same.

While he was able illegally to use Admin. Permissions on Grumpyexpat.com/forum, he also stole the identity of a member. This was discovered when that member could no longer log in because his password and email address had been changed. He chose the identity of someone well known in the Korat community, showing that there are no depths to which the hacker would not stoop.

He also tampered with individual posts in the way that a snivelling misfit of a schoolboy might.

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Re: Korat Hacker Talk
« Reply #21 on: May 30, 2011, 08:53:49 AM »
Wow!  This is getting deeper by the minute!  Stealing the Admin's password and logging on is one thing, but tampering with stuff, changing user name passwords, emails, stealing data to try and use it to blackmail people...God the list goes on.  I wonder if he realizes what trouble he's gotten himself into.  There is a huge list of charges that can be brought against him for this....posting screen shots to try and discredit people not realizing that he was basically incriminating himself. 

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Re: Korat Hacker Talk
« Reply #22 on: May 30, 2011, 09:41:40 AM »
Hold your horses. We haven't finished yet!

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Re: Korat Hacker Talk
« Reply #23 on: June 01, 2011, 07:34:51 AM »
Grumpy is also covering this story. I hope that Admin. here is agreeable to me posting a link so that readers can get the complete picture.

http://www.grumpyexpat.com/forum/isaan-liar-loses-face-again-t961.html

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Re: Korat Hacker Talk
« Reply #24 on: June 01, 2011, 08:10:41 AM »
I don't see any reason for denying links that are not just SPAM, but are contributing to and supplementing valid topics of this forum.  :)

I have always been a proponent of linking among Korat forums. It's two other forum admins in Korat only that keep removing discussions about other Korat forums or links to them, one whose forum is closed for maintenance and another who seems to have problems with Russian hackers from Romania in its admin's opinion paid by three usual suspects in Korat. I myself haven't seen abuse of that on here before. Am I too liberal? I can only remember about two years ago a certain person cluttering my mailbox with harassing emails demanding removal of references to his website.
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Re: Korat Hacker Talk
« Reply #25 on: June 01, 2011, 10:05:17 AM »
Thanks, JF. If reciprocated, of course.

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Re: Korat Hacker Talk
« Reply #26 on: June 01, 2011, 02:01:14 PM »
Johnnie, I reckon that your approach is measured and reasonable, not too liberal.