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Sportrider

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Re: Banned from TV and KF again?
« Reply #30 on: March 12, 2009, 05:26:16 PM »
When I do ban, it's usually in desperation rather than anything else.  I try my best and realise that my actions may upset some people sometimes, but I genuinely have no hard feelings to anyone - as you know anyone is always welcome to join (or re-join) the board.

And there we go: The password for the account as Mitraparp Monkey" I had asked for in my first letter has never arrived. ;D  ;D ;D


Umm.. unfortunately you didn't tell me your name so I thought you were just trying to wind me up.  If that isn't the case, please do try again on the same procedure followed by everyone else.   :)
 

Sportrider

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Re: Banned from TV and KF again?
« Reply #31 on: March 12, 2009, 05:28:15 PM »



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On the subject of mentioning other boards, I really don't have a problem.  KF is a service and useful links are part of that.  There is a way to go about it though - a quick PM just to check it's ok would have been courteous - especially when at first glance it seemed that the purpose of referenced forum was not exactly to support Koratfarang.com.

Would you really have bothered to look, if the post had been on moderation row? ;)



Of course, I look at every PM and take it seriously if someone makes an effort to message me.
 

Sportrider

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Re: Banned from TV and KF again?
« Reply #32 on: March 12, 2009, 05:45:31 PM »

Now, the purpose of this forum here isn't to support a certain forum or not, but rather to help the farang community in Korat to take care of its genuine problems. The open critique of any forum is just part of it. Is it always just gossip, what sounds inconvenient? Only if we talk about problems we can find ways to take care of them. When some 'good friends' of the admin who are neither living in or around Korat nor are connected to it somehow attack concerned members of the foreigner community "to have their fun" there shouldn't be any question in which direction to moderate.



Yes I think you've uncovered a key point here.  If there is an argument, there are almost always 2 sides (at least) so any kind of moderation action is going to leave someone (if not everyone) unhappy.  A problem arises when people think I am being one-sided because they are not aware of communication I may be having with the other parties.  We had an example of this recently.  I am accused of favoritism when it is simply not the case.  All parties have offending posts deleted and similar warnings if necessary.  For dignity of the individuals, I prefer to do this one-2-one and in private.

However, you are also right that sometimes I do have to make a judgement call.  It's not easy.  But as a useful guide there are broadly two kinds of people - namely (1) the guy who says, 'oh, right, yes I see what you mean, sorry I'll back off and think a bit more carefully next time', and (2) the guy who tries strenuously to convince me how 'right' he is on the argued issue, and doesn't quite get my point that I don't care (and often haven't read the whole thread), it's attitude and spirit of the board that's important. 

It's a no-brainer that poster (1) wins in a showdown over poster (2).  This is a very typical example, and I do find it sad that individuals continue to think I'm victimising them when actually I'm desperately wishing they will get the point.

If some of the so-called 'old guard' happen to fall into set (1) and some of the 'new young bucks' fall into group (2), it doesn't affect my admin behaviour any more than if it was the other way around (and, sometimes it is). 

 

Sportrider

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Re: Banned from TV and KF again?
« Reply #33 on: March 12, 2009, 06:03:25 PM »


And that is really the top point of criticism on KF: it lacks moderation! Why does it need moderation when the administrator can ban? Give it a thought, what you caused by starting to ban at all? There were advices on how to handle, some of them you have taken now, after years of escalation. You should have prevented developments like that.  It will cost huge efforts to redo the damage you caused to your own board. You gotta do that yourself. The foreigner community in Korat seems to have understood by now that message boards are not as important as their admins like to think.  Using the board mainly for your own intentions of gaining friends you made choices that tore other friendships apart. :o

No hard feelings about me speaking the plain and open truth please!



Yes I can understand you feel that's the truth as you see it.  I'm sorry if you have disagreed with some of the choices I've made.  Like I said, it's not easy and I'm just some guy with a few minutes every now and then to run the board.  You must be right that some of my decisions could be 'better'.  But I also hope that a fair-minded participant can understand and accept in good-faith that I'm just trying to do my best.

Incidentally, I moved away from Korat quite some time ago and go back very infrequently.  (I'm still working but one day I hope to retire there.)  I've honestly met & socialised with not one KF member more than a handful of times.  I have no reason to have favourites.  I deal with all people as I see them.

I personally attach no more importance to KF than others do.  I have on more than one occasion thought to just close it.  I started it is a hobby, I don't sell advertising, it costs me money and a great deal of time, and sometimes it makes me depressed when people attack me just for trying to do the right thing.  But the messages of support I get from people who genuinely appreciate it - these are what keep me going.


'Using the board mainly for your own intentions'
- umm.... a bit unfair I think.


 
 

Dudley

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Re: Banned from TV and KF again?
« Reply #34 on: March 12, 2009, 06:09:52 PM »

About the figures, there have been no recent bans

Cheers and all the best,
Sportrider


Not exactly true. I was banned two weeks ago and I am still banned. But I suppose it depends on your definition of recent. Two weeks is recent to me and I notice that Mitraparp Monkey’s email to you asks for banning figures for this year. That’s at least ten weeks.

Dudley
 

Sportrider

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Re: Banned from TV and KF again?
« Reply #35 on: March 12, 2009, 06:12:46 PM »
In the above posts I've tried to address your points as best I can, in a well-meaning spirit.  I try to understand your point of view, and hope you can see mine. 

I totally understand that some people feel they could do a better job than I.

Sportrider

 

Sportrider

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Re: Banned from TV and KF again?
« Reply #36 on: March 12, 2009, 06:18:30 PM »

About the figures, there have been no recent bans

Cheers and all the best,
Sportrider


Not exactly true. I was banned two weeks ago and I am still banned. But I suppose it depends on your definition of recent. Two weeks is recent to me and I notice that Mitraparp Monkey’s email to you asks for banning figures for this year. That’s at least ten weeks.

Dudley

Dudley you were banned on 6-Feb (as a warning) and again on 23-Feb for the same reason.  As I said above, a simple PM from you would have made all the difference.  'You' are not banned - just that ID.  As per above, anyone is welcome to rejoin with a different ID, and many do.  In fact, some members have multiple IDs on the go simultaneously... could it be in anticipation of a ban?  Surely not!   ;D  ;D
 

Mitraparp Monkey

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Re: Banned from TV and KF again?
« Reply #37 on: March 12, 2009, 06:20:42 PM »
Umm.. unfortunately you didn't tell me your name so I thought you were just trying to wind me up.  If that isn't the case, please do try again on the same procedure followed by everyone else.   :)

I said clearly in the letter my name (an alias of course) is Mitraparp Monkey. What other name did you want to know? Since you killed my previous identity by banning me, that cannot be of any relevance. And what other name do you like: does Michael Miller suit you?

But honestly I would like most to go there with my original nick; I'm using that on about a dozen or more boards. So why should I use another nick just on your board.

Of course here and on koratfarang.webs.com, a board you should not appreciate less than this here, I'm not using the nick I was banned with because that would give people the idea I were just spilling hatred because I was banned. We got this board set up and this discussion going by not revealing who we were on KF. All our posts deal with the improvement of the communication infrastructure of Nakhon Ratchasima.

But of course I'm winding you up as Mitraparp Monkey, for your best. Think about the dumbest of your bannings and you got the nick you should reinstall.  ;D
 

Sportrider

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Re: Banned from TV and KF again?
« Reply #38 on: March 12, 2009, 06:30:43 PM »
Umm.. unfortunately you didn't tell me your name so I thought you were just trying to wind me up.  If that isn't the case, please do try again on the same procedure followed by everyone else.   :)

I said clearly in the letter my name (an alias of course) is Mitraparp Monkey. What other name did you want to know? Since you killed my previous identity by banning me, that cannot be of any relevance. And what other name do you like: does Michael Miller suit you?

But honestly I would like most to go there with my original nick; I'm using that on about a dozen or more boards. So why should I use another nick just on your board.

Of course here and on koratfarang.webs.com, a board you should not appreciate less than this here, I'm not using the nick I was banned with because that would give people the idea I were just spilling hatred because I was banned. We got this board set up and this discussion going by not revealing who we were on KF. All our posts deal with the improvement of the communication infrastructure of Nakhon Ratchasima.

But of course I'm winding you up as Mitraparp Monkey, for your best. Think about the dumbest of your bannings and you got the nick you should reinstall.  ;D

I really don't know who you are.  Please help me to help you.  Drop me an email with the details.

Now that I've made this effort, I hope you feel able to let go of trying to wind me up, and re-join in good faith?

Cheers
sr
 

Dudley

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Re: Banned from TV and KF again?
« Reply #39 on: March 12, 2009, 06:32:39 PM »

About the figures, there have been no recent bans

Cheers and all the best,
Sportrider


Not exactly true. I was banned two weeks ago and I am still banned. But I suppose it depends on your definition of recent. Two weeks is recent to me and I notice that Mitraparp Monkey’s email to you asks for banning figures for this year. That’s at least ten weeks.

Dudley

Dudley you were banned on 6-Feb (as a warning) and again on 23-Feb for the same reason.  As I said above, a simple PM from you would have made all the difference.  'You' are not banned - just that ID.  As per above, anyone is welcome to rejoin with a different ID, and many do.  In fact, some members have multiple IDs on the go simultaneously... could it be in anticipation of a ban?  Surely not!   ;D  ;D

So how long is 'Dudley' banned for? All I get is a mesage that says; Sorry Dudley. You are banned from using this forum.

And a PM to ask what? Permission to do what others have done many times before and have done since? (post a link to other forums)

How can new members be expected to read your mind? You have 1478 posts on that board. Do you expect all newbies to read them all, try to work out the context for them all and then try to work out what your current state of thinking is on every forum or every topic? Probably not.

And you seem to expect PMs from members but you don't even send PMs to people you ban explaining why they're banned. That's up to you, but I imagine that is why there's so much 'gossip' about KF on other boards.
 

Sportrider

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Re: Banned from TV and KF again?
« Reply #40 on: March 12, 2009, 06:46:23 PM »

About the figures, there have been no recent bans

Cheers and all the best,
Sportrider


Not exactly true. I was banned two weeks ago and I am still banned. But I suppose it depends on your definition of recent. Two weeks is recent to me and I notice that Mitraparp Monkey’s email to you asks for banning figures for this year. That’s at least ten weeks.

Dudley

Dudley you were banned on 6-Feb (as a warning) and again on 23-Feb for the same reason.  As I said above, a simple PM from you would have made all the difference.  'You' are not banned - just that ID.  As per above, anyone is welcome to rejoin with a different ID, and many do.  In fact, some members have multiple IDs on the go simultaneously... could it be in anticipation of a ban?  Surely not!   ;D  ;D

So how long is 'Dudley' banned for? All I get is a mesage that says; Sorry Dudley. You are banned from using this forum.

And a PM to ask what? Permission to do what others have done many times before and have done since? (post a link to other forums)

How can new members be expected to read your mind? You have 1478 posts on that board. Do you expect all newbies to read them all, try to work out the context for them all and then try to work out what your current state of thinking is on every forum or every topic? Probably not.

And you seem to expect PMs from members but you don't even send PMs to people you ban explaining why they're banned. That's up to you, but I imagine that is why there's so much 'gossip' about KF on other boards.

Dudley I'm sorry you feel upset.  As I mentioned above, a cursory glance at the target site left me thinking your post was malicious.  If you didn't understand that, a PM to me to ask for clarification would have certainly saved some heartache.  And when you did it again, I felt doubly sure you were being malicious - hence the ban was made permanent, with no further explanation.)

PMs do, afterall, help clear up misunderstandings.

I'd like to extend the hand of friendship and invite you to drop me an email, per usual, and I'll reinstate you.  Just as I will reinstate MM once he lets me know who to reinstate!

Cheers all
sr


 

Offline Johnnie F.

Re: Banned from TV and KF again?
« Reply #41 on: March 12, 2009, 06:53:45 PM »
I really don't know who you are.  Please help me to help you.  Drop me an email with the details.

Now that I've made this effort, I hope you feel able to let go of trying to wind me up, and re-join in good faith?

Does it matter who Mitraparp Monkey was in a previous life on your forum? As I know him - and I do personally - now he would hardly  get the time to invest much into a forum not of his own or one of his closest friends, either.  ;D (I have asked him for permission to tell that much) Really must have been your dumbest banning! :D
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Sportrider

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Re: Banned from TV and KF again?
« Reply #42 on: March 12, 2009, 07:05:26 PM »
I really don't know who you are.  Please help me to help you.  Drop me an email with the details.

Now that I've made this effort, I hope you feel able to let go of trying to wind me up, and re-join in good faith?

Does it matter who Mitraparp Monkey was in a previous life on your forum? As I know him - and I do personally - now he would hardly  get the time to invest much into a forum not of his own or one of his closest friends, either.  ;D (I have asked him for permission to tell that much) Really must have been your dumbest banning! :D

No it doesn't matter at all.  But he has asked me to reinstate his previous username...  hence a private email from him to me is my suggestion.. (for his own privacy).

Cheers,
sr

Ps.  Yes, like anyone, I can be very dumb at times!
 

Dudley

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Re: Banned from TV and KF again?
« Reply #43 on: March 12, 2009, 07:10:31 PM »
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Dudley I'm sorry you feel upset.  As I mentioned above, a cursory glance at the target site left me thinking your post was malicious.  If you didn't understand that, a PM to me to ask for clarification would have certainly saved some heartache.  And when you did it again, I felt doubly sure you were being malicious - hence the ban was made permanent, with no further explanation.)

PMs do, afterall, help clear up misunderstandings.

I'd like to extend the hand of friendship and invite you to drop me an email, per usual, and I'll reinstate you.  Just as I will reinstate MM once he lets me know who to reinstate!

Cheers all
sr[end quote]

SR
Thank you for your explanation. There was certainly no malicious intent on my part. As I mentioned earlier, reading minds is difficult, and so is sending a PM when you're banned! But perhaps you meant after the first ban.

In the spirit of friendship as you suggested, I will send you an email regarding reinstatement.

Dudley
 

KoratFarang

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Re: Banned from TV and KF again?
« Reply #44 on: March 12, 2009, 08:16:01 PM »
Whoa, a lot of 'excuses'. Is that what we need? It might help to smoothe until the next storm breaks out. We're sittin' in one boat in Korat. We should help each other to stay afloat. How to do that best?

Many different boards are an enrichment for our foreigner scene in Korat. What we don't need is the competition. Mr. Sportrider might have understood by now that collaboration is the target. A good gesture of his would be to install 'official' links to the other forums around. Be friendly with them instead of competitive.

For example links like the one at the bottom of the index page of this forum, the one to "The historic cabinet" could help a lot to show interest in collaboration instead of driving or "pulling"people from one to another forum. What does our admin here think of installing links to the other boards in Korat as well. To my knowledge they are

http://koratfarang.com/board/index.php

http://korat-info.com/forum/index.php

http://koratfarang.webs.com/forum.htm

http://grumpyexpat.com/forum/index.php


I think thaivisa does not belong to Korat even in the widest sense.
 

Offline Johnnie F.

Re: Banned from TV and KF again?
« Reply #45 on: March 13, 2009, 09:17:55 AM »
Whoa, a lot of 'excuses'. Is that what we need? It might help to smoothe until the next storm breaks out. We're sittin' in one boat in Korat. We should help each other to stay afloat. How to do that best?

Many different boards are an enrichment for our foreigner scene in Korat. What we don't need is the competition. Mr. Sportrider might have understood by now that collaboration is the target. A good gesture of his would be to install 'official' links to the other forums around. Be friendly with them instead of competitive.

For example links like the one at the bottom of the index page of this forum, the one to "The historic cabinet" could help a lot to show interest in collaboration instead of driving or "pulling"people from one to another forum. What does our admin here think of installing links to the other boards in Korat as well. To my knowledge they are

http://koratfarang.com/board/index.php

http://korat-info.com/forum/index.php

http://koratfarang.webs.com/forum.htm

http://grumpyexpat.com/forum/index.php


I think thaivisa does not belong to Korat even in the widest sense.


I think installing 'official' links to the other forums is a good way to show unity. Of course tv should go this way as well. ;)

Done on this board already!
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KoratCat

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Re: Banned from TV and KF again?
« Reply #46 on: March 13, 2009, 10:32:37 AM »
Hi, thanks for inviting me to this discussion as well. I only do know SR and Koratfart by their "functions". I'm running korat-info.com - since I got banned from KF almost three years ago. ;D

I think installing 'official' links to the other forums is a good way to show unity. Of course tv should go this way as well. ;)


Yes, I do think that were a great improvement to the cyberspace of Korat: the boards "officially" linking to each other. Would relieve a lot of tensions. Since we're all claiming to serve the public we should actually inform about other boards instead of trying to "educate" and keep the foreign Koratians from some other boards. Korat-Info already has link sections to the other boards (in english)

http://korat-info.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=505 (General Expat Forums (Thailand)

http://korat-info.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=15 (Topical Expat Forums)

http://korat-info.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=249 (Expatforums (Asia-Regional)

and in german

http://korat-info.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=16 (Allgemeine Expatforen)

http://korat-info.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=473 (Thematische Expatforen)

Links to relevant blogs are at various topical locations in the forum.

Korat-Info is IMO the board that gets the most traffic from search engine results due to its name. So there is really only one domain that can be considered to serve Korat the best for guiding the way to Korat in cyberspace: not korat-info.com, neither koratinfo.com but only korat.info, short and clear. For the last six years this domain was used to supply information about the Sisawat (Koratcat), the high bred cat said to have originated from Phi Mai. Last Monday I was lucky enough to secure that domain for our host community. It is planned to use it as a portal to Korat with links to all relevant websites.

Anybody interested in helping to develop that project please don't hesitate and contact me.

Thanks,

KoratCat
 

Offline Johnnie F.

Re: Banned from TV and KF again?
« Reply #47 on: March 13, 2009, 10:03:00 PM »
Hi KC, congrats and good luck to your new project "korat.info"! Looks like tv isn't pulling that much weight around here anymore.  ;D

Cheers,

Koratfart

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KoratFarang

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Re: Banned from TV and KF again?
« Reply #48 on: March 14, 2009, 02:45:02 PM »
Dudley I'm sorry you feel upset.  As I mentioned above, a cursory glance at the target site left me thinking your post was malicious.  If you didn't understand that, a PM to me to ask for clarification would have certainly saved some heartache.  And when you did it again, I felt doubly sure you were being malicious - hence the ban was made permanent, with no further explanation.)

Could you fill us in a little on what you call "malicious" and maybe what site was classified as malicious by you upon which "cursory glance?

Lots of people have been trying to get this discussion going; it wasn't possible at the place of the highest necessity because of intolerance and the admin's "mind control", his censure, even getting to the point of tearing communities apart instead of applying elegant solutions like other boards can do.

I personally would like to see KF becoming a good board again. How can that be achieved?
 

Jaguar

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Re: Banned from TV and KF again?
« Reply #49 on: March 14, 2009, 03:18:36 PM »
My impression from the above discussion is that Mr. Sportrider did set up his board and handled it as a virtual community only, while the needs of farangs in Korat are a real community based on geography, using a web board for communication. So his management did not support the formation of a real community. As said before his bannings tore friendship apart. How could you send a PM to your old friend again etc.? God separated you from him.

And who minds, if you get banned from a virtual community where nobody knows you personally? You just move on to another! But the practice of bannings in a geographical community is something completely different. It's not so easy to take your house and all your social contacts and move to the next village. And think about the 'loss of face', the damage to your reputation.
 

uglymug

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Re: Banned from TV and KF again?
« Reply #50 on: March 14, 2009, 03:29:52 PM »
After reading this post and Sportriders comments, i find it little mystifying why he comes here and tries to justify his actions, why do you not do it on your own board and make your members not feel alienated.

Lots of your good posters have left by now and the posters you have now just post crap.
 

The Maller

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Re: Banned from TV and KF again?
« Reply #51 on: March 19, 2009, 12:27:05 PM »
After reading this post and Sportriders comments, i find it little mystifying why he comes here and tries to justify his actions, why do you not do it on your own board and make your members not feel alienated.

Lots of your good posters have left by now and the posters you have now just post crap.

Simple explanation:

a) they wouldn't read it anymore because they already left for good,

b) they couldn't reply to it anymore because he already banned them all.

What's left for him than going where he expects them to be and read? Luckily he didn't have any problems at all registering and posting here.

That gets us to a second point: Why doesn't he open registration for all again? Afraid of trolls? Naw, trolls aren't a problem as long as the people on the board don't fight with them but just let them be trolls. ;)
 

Lung Jim

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Re: Banned from TV and KF again?
« Reply #52 on: March 20, 2009, 04:10:30 PM »
My impression from the above discussion is that Mr. Sportrider did set up his board and handled it as a virtual community only, while the needs of farangs in Korat are a real community based on geography, using a web board for communication. So his management did not support the formation of a real community. As said before his bannings tore friendship apart. How could you send a PM to your old friend again etc.? God separated you from him.

And who minds, if you get banned from a virtual community where nobody knows you personally? You just move on to another! But the practice of bannings in a geographical community is something completely different. It's not so easy to take your house and all your social contacts and move to the next village. And think about the 'loss of face', the damage to your reputation.

It is quite some situation to suddenly get cut off from your friends without any means left to get back into contact with them. Maybe years later you meet a guy somewhere in Korat; sharing your experiences about the years of life in Korat you get to talking about that forum, finding out about each others identities - and the riddle gets solved why you "all of a sudden and without apparent reason stopped posting, why you were presumed deceased": you had been banned by God from using a forum claiming to be the hub of Korat's foreigner scene.  >:(
 

KoratFarang

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Re: Banned from TV and KF again?
« Reply #53 on: April 01, 2009, 10:49:14 AM »
Could you fill us in a little on what you call "malicious" and maybe what site was classified as malicious by you upon which "cursory glance?

Lots of people have been trying to get this discussion going; it wasn't possible at the place of the highest necessity because of intolerance and the admin's "mind control", his censure, even getting to the point of tearing communities apart instead of applying elegant solutions like other boards can do.

Still don't know what he calls "malicious"; I therefore conclude that all critique must be "malicious" in his eyes - even if it is meant to get a discussion going to the effect of improving matters.  :(
 

Spider

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Re: Banned from TV and KF again?
« Reply #54 on: April 22, 2009, 07:17:08 PM »
A brave farang put his head above the parapet today tempting his forum fate. He dared to mention with his first post today on KF another two forums - including this one! Will SR ban him for mentioning koratfart.co.cc now that SR is a member of this forum himself? Or has becoming a member brought koratfart.co.cc in from the cold? Only time will tell.  :-\
 

Jezza

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Re: Banned from TV and KF again?
« Reply #55 on: April 22, 2009, 09:29:38 PM »
Let me hazard a guess as to who it is !

Guess 1 - Mitrapap Monkey
Guess 2 - Mitrapap Monkey
Guess 3 - Mitrapap Monkey

Why do I think that?

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"I was kept from being active here for a long time by what I consider an unjustified banning. Wanna know under which nicks I posted here and how many? I can say without lying or bending the truth that I have never insulted anyone on this forum or another."

http://koratfarang.com/board/index.php/topic,5402.msg48157.html#msg48157

Sorry if I'm wrong Mr Monkey. Congratulations on returning to KF if I'm right!  ;)

 

Offline Johnnie F.

Re: Banned from TV and KF again?
« Reply #56 on: April 22, 2009, 09:46:35 PM »
Hi Spider,

what makes you think koratfart.co.cc is out in the "cold"?

The comments here seem to have deep effects, warming up cyberspace in Korat and cooling down the cyberwar in Korat. And it does have the admins of all Korat forums (koratfarang.com, korat-info.com, grumpyexpat and even koratfarang.webs.com) as members. And on the latter even teakdoor admin participated. Koratfart.co.cc is impartial, neutral,  webspace. I'm sure it can help all of us. It has no purpose of its own.

Hi Jezza,

what makes this forum great is that identies can only be revealed by their holders. At least directly.  ;D So I would never blame Monkey for not confirming your guess, even if it turned out correct. Too many people with valid points and good behavior but inconvenient truths have been banned from KF. Let's just hope "Karl" is successful on his mission. How long will it take before they call him "Troll" again?  :D

Betting is open! :D
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Mitraparp Monkey

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Re: Banned from TV and KF again?
« Reply #57 on: April 22, 2009, 10:42:39 PM »
Too much honor! Who are we all?  :D
 

Jaroslav

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Re: Banned from TV and KF again?
« Reply #58 on: April 22, 2009, 11:14:30 PM »
Hmmm, Dirtydog is it you?
 

Karl

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Re: Banned from TV and KF again?
« Reply #59 on: April 23, 2009, 08:53:50 AM »
Hmmm, Dirtydog is it you?


Sorry, Jaroslav, no!

Sportrider wrote:
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Time to blow the whistle for 'full time' on this game of two halfs!  Smiley







Already an achievement: no immediate banning and deleting of a perfectly harmless discussion at first sight but just locking the thread. But why?  ;D
 

 



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