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Offline Johnnie F.

Advertising on forums
« on: June 28, 2012, 10:46:50 PM »
On another forum of mine I had removed the 5th commercial ad of a foreigner resp. his Thai wife or girlfriend, which were probably meant to be "supporting the Thai woman's real estate business" with sales ad posts on forums in Korat. I removed it, because she/he had ignored, what I had suggested after his/her 4th commercial ad: that he/she should contribute a financial donation to the costs running that forum. Now I wrote to her/him in a PM:
"...your post has been removed as SPAM. Obviously you haven't understood that it is necessary to contribute to this forum one way or another before you can continually use it for commercial advertisements. Your contingency of free advertisements has run out by now! A financial contribution is suggested."

He/she replied:
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It is a pity that you feel that way.
I am happy that other websites in Korat have a different idea about forums than you have. Here you have for example a reaction of a member of another forum in Korat:


   
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post your ads here for the benefit of everyone

It seems that people understand that it can be for the benefit of all the members to allow these adds. just take a look at the number of views of the members that read these ads and you will see that many members are interested and want to know about prices, land and house prices, ....

You clearly have a different view and I feel sorry for that.

Good luck in any case

PS.
I think we should have this discussion on the forum and ask the members of the forum what they think about this subject. perhaps that the reactions of the members will open your eyes so that you can see the benefit for all the members.

I answered him/her on behalf of that forum:

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Dear ...!
Maybe you should have read some of this forum before writing that. This point was brought up many times by members before, arguing against those advertisements. There have even been polls with the outcome of the vast majority against commercial advertisement:

viewtopic.php?f=116&t=2664

viewtopic.php?f=116&t=3085

If I still do allow some, I cannot do it for free. This forum is supported by donations from members. How do you think those members, who give money for running this forum, would feel, if I allowed a business free advertisement on this forum? I cannot allow your continued advertising without donating yourself, because I have to balance interests.

As to your argument, other forum admins do welcome your ads, see how many people do like to look up those forums. Where are they on the search engines, when somebody is looking for information about Korat?

As I said, I have to balance interests, and I'm sure to do a good job.

Cheers,

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As on that other forum the topic commercial advertising has been discussed many times in the last years with the outcome by 82% in a poll commercial advertising is not wanted, it were of interest to read, what the members of this forum think.

I just want to comment on this phrase here:

just take a look at the number of views of the members that read these ads and you will see that many members are interested and want to know about prices, land and house prices, ....

Actually I never really paid much attention to the page view count of those ads, but I can imagine that trained specialists from the Crime Suppression Department (CSD) do read them over and over again to monitor, whether there are foreigners selling out Thailand, speculating with Thai soil, driving prices for riceland up, so that farmers cannot afford to buy it anymore for growing rice. It really seems kind of odd, when foreigners, who aren't allowed to purchase land in Thailand land are offered land for purchase in violation of the law of our guest country. That it is done by the Thai wife/girlfriend of a foreigner doesn't change the fact, that it is advertised for sale on media for foreigners. Now the CSD-people don't want to catch those only who circumvent Thai law by buying land in their Thai relatives' names, they're probably even happier to catch the farang, who's pulling the strings.

Everybody needs a place to live, and if you can afford it you can built a house for your Thai family, you're visiting permanently. Maybe you can even build two or three houses. Or maybe one wants to sell that house or a piece of land because he wants to move somewhere else. Nothing wrong with that in my opinion. But commercial land brokering with continued advertising to people not allowed to buy does go beyond that.

Now where do I come in as the admin of such a farang medium? Don't I act as an accessory to this very close to criminal activity, if I allow more than occasional, i. e. private, advertising of land sales, knowing Thai customers aren't the usual clientele reading my forum? I knowingly let a land broker, be it a farang directly or his Thai wife/girlfriend, offer land to other farangs for purchase. Customers who would violate the laws of this country, if they did buy what is offered on my forum!

I'm glad this episode made me think about it!
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Offline Johnnie F.

Re: Advertising on forums
« Reply #1 on: June 29, 2012, 10:33:33 AM »
Now some advertisement is so original, that people love to  put it on their sites for free. Happy waking up!

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Offline dodgeydave

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Re: Advertising on forums
« Reply #2 on: June 29, 2012, 11:58:49 AM »
Funny Specsavers
 

Offline thaiga

Re: Advertising on forums
« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2012, 12:12:00 PM »
 
  Would have been better if she wasnt in gear dave :evilgrin
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Offline Johnnie F.

Re: Advertising on forums
« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2012, 12:32:21 PM »


Didn't "Uncle Somchai" ask for an optician on this forum? He must have asked that for his friends from the real estate business. ;)
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Offline thaiga

Re: Advertising on forums
« Reply #5 on: June 29, 2012, 12:52:33 PM »
NEED GLASSES

On June 17th, Xi’an TV’s “Xi’an Up Close” program broadcasted a piece of local news. At first the anchorperson claimed that an old Xi’an farmer was digging a well in his hometown, and when the well reached close to 100 meters depth, a strange plant was uncovered and dug out. The correspondent on camera said the villagers told her they had dug out a fleshy plant-like object, and the nearly 80-year-old elderly man also said he had never seen such strange a thing. The villagers interviewed said they too didn’t know what it is, that the fleshy thing even had a nose and an eye. When the female reporter saw the object, she described it as something very much like a fungus, with both ends being in the shape of mushroom heads. Then she picked it up pinched and prodded it over and over again, saying the top end of the mushroom head was a mouth, and the bottom end had a small hole. She even said it felt very smooth and slippery. Local villagers said that they had searched online and discovered that this ting was called Taisui, a kind of lingzhi mushroom, upon which the reporter immediately gave an introduction and explanation about lingzhi mushrooms, before saying she would go find experts to have it identified. However, netizens watching this piece of news immediately recognized it as a male masturbation toy, not a fungus or lingzhi mushroom at all. This [television reporter's] mistake left netizens not knowing whether to laugh or cry.

爆笑: 女記者誤將男用自慰器認作靈芝What a mistake!
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Offline takeitor

Re: Advertising on forums
« Reply #6 on: June 29, 2012, 02:08:00 PM »
Bravo JF, very eloquently put...and enough to make me want to donate to running costs so that advertising remains un-needed (details required please).

If I wanted to be bombarded by advertising whilst reading gossip, I'd join Facebook (on second thoughts, nothing would make me want to join Facebook! ::))
 

Offline Johnnie F.

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sicho

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Re: Advertising on forums
« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2012, 12:20:02 PM »
Business advertisements are welcomed on Grumpy, subject to permission first being asked. Oddly, those who advertised never asked and those who were invited to advertise free, such as The Ram, never did. Now that Ben is abusing the facility and wrote a faintly sarcastic reply to my PM about it, I'm going to block any more abuse.
 

Offline Johnnie F.

Re: Advertising on forums
« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2012, 12:45:03 PM »
Business information and business advertising are two different things. The latter is usually seen as obtrusive. Business information can be of benefit for the customer. On my forums I try to draw a line between those. It depends on many factors. Individual consideration is necessary. The frequency is one of the most important factors. Somebody wanting to tell his special offers every day can just get the display of a banner or permanent link to a website of his own, where he posts his offers. No "updating" on the forum necessary then.
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Offline Johnnie F.

Re: Advertising on forums
« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2012, 02:18:59 PM »
Oh, I had completely forgotten about that: Some time ago I registered the domain


wanted to make a commercial website just for business information and advertising in Korat, separate from the forums. Still got that domain parked at Sedo. I'll immediately go to work and set up a site, starting with a welcome page and a blog, recording the development. Just a little patience please! :)
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Offline thaiga

Re: Advertising on forums
« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2012, 02:29:58 PM »

  How r people gonna clone that theres no room for the -      korat-.biz
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Offline Johnnie F.

Re: Advertising on forums
« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2012, 03:13:19 PM »
They might try koratbiz.com or koratbiz.net or korat-biz.com etc.

So grab your domains now! :evilgrin

But actually there isn't need for cloning. People can get a subdomain from me, leading directly to their own site at whatever host. A subdomain like

landsales.korat.biz

I can directly switch that at my domainhost. Name servers are in Canada, USA and UK.

Sorry for spamming on my own forum! Was only showing the alternatives to spamming to others. :-[
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Offline Johnnie F.

Re: Advertising on forums
« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2012, 04:20:44 PM »
Just an idea: subdomains by products! What about a page with names of all those businesses where one is likely to get that famous luncheon meat, calling it

spam.korat.biz
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sicho

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Re: Advertising on forums
« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2012, 04:35:45 PM »
Just an idea: subdomains by products! What about a page with names of all those businesses where one is likely to get that famous luncheon meat, calling it

spam.korat.biz

Isn't there already one in existence - koratknifelife.com or something like that?
 

Offline Johnnie F.

Re: Advertising on forums
« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2012, 05:17:55 PM »
Isn't there already one in existence - koratknifelife.com or something like that?

Isn't that reserved to porn and gambling?
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sicho

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Re: Advertising on forums
« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2012, 05:19:53 PM »
Ah, yes, so it is.
 

Offline Johnnie F.

Re: Advertising on forums
« Reply #17 on: July 01, 2012, 06:36:04 PM »
Quote from: ben
I am happy that other websites in Korat have a different idea about forums than you have.


Looks like the four websites in Korat with the highest number of page views (look there) do all have the same idea: no commercial advertising without financial contribution. And even then certain limits are set by members financial support.
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