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Offline Kitchen Knife

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This just in from the Isaan expert. I never knew I needed a work permit and ta bian ban to get treated at a hospital. 

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I was REALLY sick last week in Bangkok. Now, I can answer a message by Gylenthal and it's exactly what I thought:

1) I don't have a ta bian ban. I didn't have my work permit. I was in Bangkok alone with a Canadian friend coming here on holiday. My social security card didn't apply because it was not in Korat. I don't have private health insurance.

2) I asked a Tuk Tuk to go to a PUBLIC hospital. I know friends who spent easily 10,000 baht per night in a private hospital.

3) Service was slow. The nurse at the entrance was talking to her friend when I arrived and it took easily 5 to 10 minutes before she took my temperature and blood pressure. I was 39.5 Celcius. I had a severe infection, including lungs (pneumonia) and others.

4) I asked to be on a "stretcher" cause I was very weak. They put me on one, add 'serum'. After 1 or 2 hours, I also had X-Ray and blood sample. Results 30 minutes later.

5) They gave me intraveinous anti-biotics, and later, pills.

Total bill: 700 baht. I was there maybe 5 to 6 hours.

So, no Ids except my passport.
No extreme bill. All services.
It would have been probably faster and better in a private hospital. But I imagine my bill would be few thousand more...
 

Offline Johnnie F.

Re: Work Permit and Ta bian ban needed for hospital treatment
« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2011, 12:56:32 PM »

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I was REALLY sick last week in Bangkok.

As confusing as that post is he very likely didn't recover. Hope his illness isn't contagious. They should better put him in quarantine!
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Re: Work Permit and Ta bian ban needed for hospital treatment
« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2011, 03:47:31 PM »
Why would anybody think you need a work permit to go to a public hospital, it's not subsidised for us, we just pay the full price. Which isn't a lot.
 

Offline Johnnie F.

Re: Work Permit and Ta bian ban needed for hospital treatment
« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2011, 05:13:54 PM »
we just pay the full price. Which isn't a lot.

Can't find it now, but I remember having seen an article about some Thai public hospitals fearing bankruptcy because they had been  admitting foreign patients that didn't pay their bill in the end. Maybe that rumor that you'd need a work permit was started by someone who didn't look like having credit cards, who had made the experience of hospital staff refusing treatment, unless he showed them a legitimate source of income first.

Stories like that have been heard before. For example a couple of years ago I was forwarded a news letter of the Pattaya Expats Club:

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A most unfortunate accident occurred to a Mr. Matt Hayes, a young English teacher from America. He was injured this last week by hitting a truck on a rented motorbike, and was reportedly not wearing a helmet. He was rushed to Bangkok Pattaya Hospital, where, his expat friends contend, he was turned away from emergency room treatment because of having no ID on him. According to reports, Matt was then put on a pick-up truck and advised to drive to Chonburi hospital. He didn't survive the road journey and died of internal bleeding.

The PEC and Pattaya People reporters will be seeking three hospital statements about what their emergency admission policy is, and whether ID's are required.  Matt's expat friends conjecture that he might have lived if treated on arrival at BPH.
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sicho

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Re: Work Permit and Ta bian ban needed for hospital treatment
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2011, 07:27:22 AM »
From my personal experience and that of friends, State run hospitals require only ID and accept passports in the case of foreigners. The suggestion that you have to prove you work and prove your address is ludicrous and whoever wrote that should speak to a good lawyer to get straightened out.

Perhaps some other information is needed if the illness or injury seems to be serious but that doesn't look right either. An admissions clerk is in no position to make such a judgement and, in any case, work permit, social security card and proof of address do not prove ability to pay. Another possible exception is cases where treatment for mental illness is being requested because I think that is seen as not essential by the State hospitals.

It's baloney and, despite all the huffing an puffing of the author of that piece, he was admitted on no more than proof of identity. In fact, he didn't say that he was asked for those documents but merely said that he didn't have them with him. Writing for the sake of it.

Anyone know who the author is? He should be asked to stop spreading scare stories.

He's also unwise not to have health insurance. I know that many foreigners don't have cover but major treatment can wipe out your savings in no time at all. To be fair, not knowing who he is, he might have some disability that bars him from taking insurance.
 

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Re: Work Permit and Ta bian ban needed for hospital treatment
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2011, 08:35:11 AM »
I was in the hospital once because I had a severe case of food poisoning.  Never once was I asked for a house book or to produce a work permit.  I fail to see how these documents would even be relevant for treatment.  The poster also mentions that he has no insurance.  I can't think of any reason why someone would not have health insurance while living in a country like Thailand.  I don't know. Maybe, he was talking about his work permit because he was thinking of applying for a job there in the psychiatric ward. Work permit and house book needed for treatment..dumbest thing I've ever heard.
 

sicho

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Re: Work Permit and Ta bian ban needed for hospital treatment
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2011, 09:33:05 AM »
Another thought.

He says he had pneumonia. That's not a 6 hour job. He'd be laid up for weeks on medication. Perhaps he didn't need to stay in hospital but, having arrived on a stretcher, he wouldn't then jump up, grab his pills and flounce off down the road for a beer.

Whoever this guy is he's talking rubbish. Is he making up a story to cover what he was really up to in Bangkok?
 

Offline Johnnie F.

Re: Work Permit and Ta bian ban needed for hospital treatment
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2011, 10:06:58 AM »
From my personal experience and that of friends, State run hospitals require only ID and accept passports in the case of foreigners. The suggestion that you have to prove you work and prove your address is ludicrous and whoever wrote that should speak to a good lawyer to get straightened out.

Now what if that person phantasizes to be a good lawyer himself? As to speaking among lawyers you'd (or maybe you would not in that case) be surprised to see what bizarre "correspondence" sometimes gets forwarded to me with comments like "I can't stop laughing!"  ;D

Just imagine you'd need representation at court and a lawyer would talk as clearly as that on your behalf...
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Re: Work Permit and Ta bian ban needed for hospital treatment
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2011, 10:56:37 AM »
He's also unwise not to have health insurance. I know that many foreigners don't have cover but major treatment can wipe out your savings in no time at all. To be fair, not knowing who he is, he might have some disability that bars him from taking insurance.

Almost every insurance company in Thailand requires an HIV-AIDS test before they will write you a policy. If you are found to be positive, they will not insure you. If his business is flourishing as he claims, money would not be the issue in purchasing insurance. Perhaps he should have kept his pants on. He should have thought about that before he started doing this.
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Re: Work Permit and Ta bian ban needed for hospital treatment
« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2011, 12:35:11 PM »
The Bangkok Pattaya is a private hospital, the most expensive here, they want to see money for expensive treatments before they start, either a credit card or your insurance cover card, they are the only one who turn people away, wont find no charity there.
 

sicho

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Re: Work Permit and Ta bian ban needed for hospital treatment
« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2011, 09:47:56 PM »
The Bangkok Pattaya is a private hospital, the most expensive here, they want to see money for expensive treatments before they start, either a credit card or your insurance cover card, they are the only one who turn people away, wont find no charity there.

Sure, but this guy was just a namby pamby wuss who went in on a stretcher, got a bit of attention (maybe that's his Achilles heel) and minced off down the street hours later having paid a small bill. Bangkok Hospital would have welcomed him in without hesitation.
 

 



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