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Offline Pistol_McFly

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The Quality of English teacher's in Korat
« on: May 07, 2015, 02:09:28 PM »
To be honest I am very disappointed in the English teaching level here in Korat, from my understanding it is required in "ALL OF THAILAND" to have at least 4 years of college,
now I have been working and living in Korat for the past 4 years, and no I'm not a teacher, I was transferred from the United States to work in Manufacturing,
my daughter is attending a school and she is 6 years old, and of course she had to learn Thai which is very easy since her mother is Thai,
I started reviewing her home work as she got older and realized basic grammar mistakes in her books, I thought to myself that ""this is a typo""!!!
but come to find out, it wasn't, the teacher "Hand Written I mind you" wrote what he wants his class to say during a Christmas Play, but my
daughter was the lead speaker since her native language was English. After taking the day off from work to discuss this matter with the director,
she then began to argue with me on this and insisted that there was no grammar error's and I must have been mistaken, now keep in mind
that the person I am speaking with does not speak any English, so this is very difficult for me to swallow, so I requested to speak with
the teacher who is responsible for this atrocity, after waiting 30 minutes I finally got to meet Teacher Brad, I noticed before even saying hello
that he is not a native speaker and he looks like he is 20 years old, just to clarify what and who teacher Brad is and from:
Teacher Brad is a 20 year old male from Cameroon Nigeria who has been working at my daughter's school for 2 years,
so that means he was 18 years old when he first came, meaning no College maybe, also, he had a very thick accent as well, I know
some of the member's who read this comment will immediately jump to racism, this is the classic excuse, but for the money I have to pay
every 3 months, I don’t accept any excuses and to be quit frank I don't care where you are from, I had the same problem with a Russian girl
who could barley speak English at all, so back to the story, Teacher Brad and I started a discussion and I let him know that there are many error's
in his Christmas play he wrote, he answered back to me that he has been using this play script for many years and there has been no complaints,
at this time he's looking at me like " Why are you complaining now???? So I explained why I am here and what is the problem, I marked up his play
with my corrections, and after her looked at it he started to smile, the smile wasn't a cocky smile, it was a smirk of Joy, so basically I just
did his job for him while paying for it quarterly, teacher Brad thanked me, shook my hand them left the room, so I am still very confused on what just happened,
I started discussing with the director that you have a kid straight our of high school teaching kids, her response was that she can't get quality teacher's
to come to Korat, this I can't believe at all and I know it is linked to the salary offered and accommodations as well, so I asked her if I were to teach here
what are the conditions: she said:
Monthly Salary will be 15,000thb, no allowance for living & transportation and they do not help out with the visa's, and I said to her well your answer is right there, you offer
nothing and you will get nothing, I stormed out of there with my daughter to never return, on my way out I see teacher Brad, and he stops me to
apologize, as he knows I am very upset, he told me that he is here illegally and he has no choice and that the school is offering very little to him,
in my mind I am thinking the whole time I am upset with the teacher when actually I should have been focusing on the school faculty.

I'm not saying that every school is like this, but I see more and more people from the Fillipines, Nigeria and Russia teching english, not saying that
all of them can't speak, but the majority of them are brought here to teach at a cheap rate, this will hurt Thai's in the long run.
 

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Re: The Quality of English teacher's in Korat
« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2015, 02:39:09 PM »
To be honest I am very disappointed in the English teaching level here in Korat



I think you are grasping at straws to assume the quality of English teaching in Korat is no good based on your dealing with one "bad" teacher. I wouldn't have thought there were many non native English speakers (non Thai of course) teaching English in Korat.

 

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Re: The Quality of English teacher's in Korat
« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2015, 03:35:58 PM »
No offense dude, but your post was painful to read to.  I'm not going to go into the reasons why.  Anyway, what you've experienced with your daughter is typical here.  Whenever the Thais are at fault or in the wrong, (especially teachers and directors of schools) they will typically retreat into the scriptures of, "It's all a misunderstanding."  You need to remember that we live in a country where the people here never make mistakes, ever.  Doing so would cause a tremendous loss of face and the Thais cannot have that in the work place.  Saving face is far more important than qualities like integrity, honesty, and above all, the truth.

i totally feel for your situation, but don't expect things to change or get better.  My advice is to send your daughter to the new International School in Korat (IF you can afford it).  It's pricey, but well worth it from what I am told by my good friend who also sends his child there.

Next time you talk to "Brad," ask him if he has a work permit, teacher's license, and what type of visa he has.  There's no wrong in that.  After all, he is teaching your daughter and you certainly have a right to know. Oh, wait.  He told you he's living here illegally.  :o
 

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Re: The Quality of English teacher's in Korat
« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2015, 03:50:12 PM »
Baby Farts:
I Don't need to ask for the work permit anymore because I have pulled my daughter and she is now in Stephen's International School, Khao Yai ,
but it is soooo expensive and I can't really afford it for too much longer.

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You mentioned my post was so hard to read?? :o
 

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Re: The Quality of English teacher's in Korat
« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2015, 06:37:24 AM »
Pistol I agree with BF about your post.
Respectfully, punctuation including paragraphs and sentences are helpful.
And Cameroon and Nigeria are two separate and mighty nations.

The idea of Russians or Africans teaching English in Thailand is hard to swallow although, Nigerians are better placed than most as English has status as a second language there.

I've watched English lessons being taught here by Brits and Americans and sorry to say, IMO you'll be lucky to get a good Teacher. No disrespect to anyone but a mainstream English accent, important in my view, is a rarity.

I think you need to encourage the teaching and use of English at home as much as possible.

Good luck.

 

Offline dawn

Re: The Quality of English teacher's in Korat
« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2015, 10:50:51 AM »
PMF your post would come across much better if you put a HELLO at the beginning,and if your asking for help or advice a THANKS or TIA at the end.

although your sentences are not finished yet you jump to another line below. :uhm

who needs the teacher here.

ps. i agree with taser
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Re: The Quality of English teacher's in Korat
« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2015, 11:45:05 AM »
I am Afraid that I will have to agree with PMF on MOST (not all) of his points.

Why, you may ask. I am married to a very nice Thai lady who is a teacher at a secondary school here, but she is NOT an English teacher.
I have meet a couple of her friends that are English teachers and I have trouble understanding them, these are grown adults. Most of the misunderstanding comes from thinking in Thai and doing a literal translation, this is one example.
The English department does find it hard to get foreign teachers, for most of the OP's reasons, but the way they treat them is despicable. They will sign a contract and then terminate it for what ever reason so as not to pay the full term amount just before the end of term. One American teacher that was living with his Thai wife in Phimai only lasted 3 weeks when some student complained the he had been disciplined by the teacher and he was fired. The discipline he gave was telling the student keep quiet and pay attention, seemed like this was the class bully.

My wife's Thai daughter is just finished university and is applying for a teachers job to teach primary school English. When I first arrived she asked for help with an exam, it was a set of sentences where one would fill in the missing words (2nd year university??). On the outset this seemed to be simple, but as I looked at the sentences I had to read and reread them as the grammar and structure was completely screwed up in the text book. I re wrote the sentience's with the corrected grammar and missing words. To this day she has not asked for help again and her conversational English is rubbish.

My wife also complains to me that some times she has to remark some exam papers for the students so that the ratio of students that pass a given exam is meet, I believe this is set by the school board. Its not how well the student does in the exam, they just want the ratio of students to pass from that school to meet the ratio set by the school district.

I did see on the news last year that within the ASEAN  community Thailand ranks lowest in English, its even worse than Engrish!!

I know that a lot of you will disagree but I am just giving you insight to what I have seen here.
 

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Re: The Quality of English teacher's in Korat
« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2015, 12:50:55 PM »
Dear KIWICANDIAN,
You are absolutely right.

Hello Roger,
In regards to Cameroon and Nigeria being a different country sorry, I meant to say I didn't know which one he was from (They are still neighboring countries), also, in regards to Africans using English as  a second language, I believe Filipinos have a better accent over Russians and Africans from what I can see and since I work with Filipinos as well.

P.S
I agree with Taser as well, as I can see the comments below are from people who have spent a lot of time in Thailand, since I work here based from the states I don't get to spend 12 months a years here, but I am still very disappointed and yes I have a lesson learned.

Dawn,
Starting a Blog with Hello? It's not standard but Ok I will keep that in mind, but I wanted to send out a complaint to the people that have spent more time in Thailand and they could send me some advise, and I have received that, thanks to everyone for your great input, I have currently moved my daughter so there is no need for anymore statements about who speaks better English, my daughter's new teachers are from America, Great Britain and Canada, all of her subjects are in English.

Regards:
Pistol McFly
 
 

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Re: The Quality of English teacher's in Korat
« Reply #8 on: May 09, 2015, 01:43:45 PM »
hi pmf,you got it sorted thats cool.
as for the 2 schools in question,might be an idea to give us a clue where they are,could be helpful for someone in the same situation.

ATB. DAWN

ps.i agree roger weytogo, I think you need to encourage the teaching and use of English at home as much as possible
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Re: The Quality of English teacher's in Korat
« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2015, 11:22:57 AM »
hi yall, mr pistols i don't understand (I had the same problem with a Russian girl)

I find it very odd that a person working illegally would tell another.So he has not been vetted properly and is working with children. :-[

ttfn SOWHAT
 

 



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