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Posted by: devlin
« on: June 19, 2013, 10:29:25 AM »

Hello, i'm new here and not very practical with forums (and english speaking too !!).
I'm living in THAILAND since 9 monthes .I need your help: I'm married with a thai wife, but she's only interested in business and not interested in sex.I really respect her and try to tall her about it, but she doesn't listen to me.I'd want to have sex fun discreetly without offending her.I can only visit korat by day and for max a couple of hours.
Please could you say me where can find girls, massage parlours,... by day .
Hope that i have not bored you , and thank u in advance for your kind answering.
Posted by: Baby Farts
« on: March 06, 2013, 05:30:48 PM »

Yogurt?
Posted by: dawn
« on: March 06, 2013, 01:54:28 PM »

you cant speak if your mouth's full :lol
Posted by: Baby Farts
« on: March 05, 2013, 08:37:35 PM »

Just tell the girls at the mall to speak into the microphone.   :salute
Posted by: maxpowers
« on: March 05, 2013, 03:48:46 PM »

you have to pay to use FU-book

the bar in the mall. that is the heineken bar that sits mostly outside thats right in the middle of the front part of the mall by the tuk-tuks stand? it looks like there are 2. 1 across from the other?

the list i made for the guys was a big hit. thank you again for all the info. only complaint was they couldn't pronounce the Thai i had. well i dont speak thai so i have no way on converting it to a text you can say and have a thai person understand. lol.  well off to party a little before work. thanks so much again.  :drink
Posted by: Baby Farts
« on: March 01, 2013, 09:57:45 PM »

Have you signed up yet on f.uckbook? I think it just might suit your needs. ;D

"Fuc.kbook is a unique adult dating and social networking hybrid site that makes it easy to experience sexual desires and fantasies. Fu.ckbook provides a specific set of free adult features to permit erotic adventures and fulfill your naughty dreams. Our adult chat community connects you with women and men regardless of their sexual orientation. Straight, gay and lesbian will find their perfect date on Fu.ckbook. Sharing images and videos in extension to Fu.ckbooks real time chat and message service provides you the best entertainment and biggest excitement in adult networking and casual dating. Looking to hook up tonight? On our social platform you will find great pleasure, a discreet affair or just some informal chat or online dating experience."
Posted by: maxpowers
« on: March 01, 2013, 08:14:32 PM »

lol alright. whats the worst that could happen, right?  :lol .... well i fly out monday, i'll fill you guys in on what happens. also please feel free to add me on FB. i searched for this site to "like" and i couldnt find it. i thought you would have had a FB page.   :cheers
Posted by: Baby Farts
« on: March 01, 2013, 03:27:12 PM »

You van always just say them to a Thai girl and see what happens. 8)

Posted by: maxpowers
« on: February 28, 2013, 03:22:05 PM »

lol i tried Google and it game back with cash train / lick your clit / and mina scooter daisy head

BF i feel like i am being extorted here. How about I buy you a beer/shot ?
Posted by: Baby Farts
« on: February 28, 2013, 02:59:18 PM »

I can translate for you, but it will cost you.  How much dough do you have on you?
Posted by: Johnnie F.
« on: February 28, 2013, 02:56:19 PM »

Why not use Google translator or another?
Posted by: maxpowers
« on: February 28, 2013, 02:15:16 PM »

Can i get the translated meaning for those?
Posted by: Baby Farts
« on: February 28, 2013, 09:22:19 AM »

Bravo Max!  I do believe you're getting the hang of things now.

Here are some other crucial Thai phrases you should learn and memorize and will help with your spiritual understanding of Thai women, guaranteed to impress them and love you forever.

Pom Tong Gan Lea tat mak mak ผมต้องการเลียแตดมาก

Pom neean mak!  ผมเหงี้ยนมาก

Leo Leo nee Lot Fai chon gan. เร็วๆนี้รถไฟชนกัน
Posted by: maxpowers
« on: February 27, 2013, 07:40:13 PM »

Basicly i made a list of all the information from your site and made this for me and my friends. we are working for the two weeks we are there so we have to stay kind of close to korat. i spent 1 day in BKK and it was fun never been to pattya. this is just for the "night life" i have every intention of seeing the water falls and temples there. i went to the royle palace last time and that was really cool and the water market? the market on the river. anyway, really loved it last time i was there. i think this will be my last chance to go for work. anyway here is the info most of the people i work with are young adults that are single so this is what they are most excited about.



BARS –
Check-Inn-good food / Chez Andy – good food / Meeting place-good reviews
the Walrus  /  the ram /  X4 / Sports bar—closed /
Meeting place-good reviews
The George & Dragon-dirty / Barnana in the Ratchaphuk Hotel Watch out for ladyboys
Tawan-Dang.  (Live music) / Pailin square across the street from the Sima Thani hotel has a few discos that are really busy on weekends.

Mam's place-freelancers / balu’s-still open to mil but a Thai restaurant now - freelancers
White Rabbit Seafood – near a coyote bar (name unknown)
Expat watering holes (ex-patriot) – speak English - 
Pegasus hotel past Macro, turn right at next lights – 2nd floor karaoke 12th floor lady’s prices for girls range from 1400-1900bt
 Any karaoke bar Just watch at closing time outside of any karaoke bar and you'll see scooter boys all lined up outside waiting to collect their Gf's hard earned cash / CLUB SEED+r is an UNKNOWN
Try Korat Night Bazar – clothes and SILK are cheap but you have to haggle
Chaopaya hotel then left from the door- Japanese restaurant
Ginza across Klang Plaza or Japanese Embassy – massage
Love Garden across from Yamo- Stay away – rumor of HIV / underage girls
''Hooters bar'' - next to the Punjadara Hotel
Coyote bar’s
2 Peace/swing=coyote (“swingers” =gay bar) /soi Nana/Soi Cowboy/
OSAKA-Massage but a Coyote bar is to the right of it in the front
Super mix-Located next to Dok Mai Cafe near the Night Bazaar
After Dark (Located behind Big C)
Important #’s–get a phone from the Mall for cheap…get one. . ---------------------
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Words and phrases
farang – you / “Jeb Kee" - you have to take a mean shit.
You are beautiful – คุณมีความสวยงาม  //  Can I buy you drink – ที่ฉันสามารถซื้อที่คุณดื่ม
Call me – (                                        ) – โทรหาฉัน / เรียกฉันว่า
Be my “friend” – เป็นแฟนเรา / บันทึกเพื่อน
Help. I am lost - ช่วย ฉันหายไป   // please give me a cold beer - โปรดให้ฉันเบียร์เย็น ๆ
Point me to tuk tuk – ชี้ให้ฉันรถตุ๊กตุ๊ก // how much – เท่าไหร่ / เท่าไหน
Why – ทำไม   yes – ครับ      no – ไม่ใช่ / มิใช่ / Please – กรุณา / Thank you – ขอบคุณ /
thai lucky number is 9 / 555 is thai lol
Are you a ladyboy? - คุณเป็นสาวประเภทสอง? / คุณเป็นเลดี้บอย?
DISCO / club / bar / expat watering hole - ดิสโก้ / สโมสร / บาร์ / expat หลุมรดน้ำ
take me to someone who speaks english- พาฉันไปที่คนที่พูดภาษาอังกฤษ
legs- ขา / boobs – หน้าอก / face – ผิวหน้า /  ASS – ตูด / stomach – พุงกะทิ / eyes – นัยน์ตา
sexy – มั่วโลกีย์ / วาบหวาม / perfect- เลิศเลอ / ugly – ขี้เหร่ / like – ชอบ / dislike - หมั่นไส้
I kill Aliens. Have you ever seen one? You are welcome. - ฉันจะฆ่าคนต่างด้าว มีคุณเคยเห็นหรือไม่ คุณจะยินดีที่
I save the in my opininion superb world. Every day. - ฉันบันทึกโลกครับ ทุกวัน    /       
Posted by: coolkorat
« on: February 27, 2013, 05:28:50 PM »

falangs? i thought farang was foreigner?

Slightly off topic, but I believe the word is correctly spelt 'farang'. In Isaan it is pronounced 'falang', and out of habit I tend to write it the way I hear it.
Posted by: Baby Farts
« on: February 27, 2013, 04:17:08 PM »

It's all good MP.  It's just that not many people, if any, come to Korat for its thriving red light areas.  Pattaya, Pat Pong, Soi Cowboy, Nana Plaza, etc, are the places almost everyone knows about.  Have you tried any of those places?  You won't need to ask anyone for advice as those places are pretty much self-explanatory.  There are a few seedy areas around Korat, but nothing to write home about or get excited about.  Try Ginza for the fishbowl experience.  Then there are the girls opposite the Chaopaya hotel late at night.  If you want a cheap price and willing to take a chance at catching HIV and having sex with an underage girl you can try the love garden next to the Yamo monument. But if you get caught, the excuse of, "I didn't know she was underage" will get you laughed at in the police station. I know of one stupid farang expat here in Korat who constantly goes there and is foolish enough to use that area as his source of entertainment. Word on the street is that he is infected already and has probably infected other people being that he refuses to use a party hat on his spooge stick.

You might find one or two birds at the Karaoke bars but most of them have boyfriends already.  Just watch at closing time outside of any karaoke bar and you'll see scooter boys all lined up outside waiting to collect their Gf's hard earned cash so they can use it to drink, f.ck, buy drugs, eat monkey ball soup, etc.


You also try one of the local discos and try your luck there.  See pic below.

Hope this helps.
Posted by: maxpowers
« on: February 27, 2013, 04:04:13 PM »

found it - that shit said 15 - 20 and + i didnt see the 15 part. thats why. all the same thank you for point that out.

falangs? i thought farang was foreigner?
Posted by: maxpowers
« on: February 27, 2013, 03:58:49 PM »

yeah, i am just trying to get some info on the area. i didnt know one of the pages i liked said 15+ i will remove that soonest - thats gross. yes i am trying to "befriend" collage chics before i visit. i recived a friend request FROM that site and thought it was this one. i am not trying to keep this topic on the top of any list, just wanted to have locals answer some questions i had. look if i offended you sorry. i have about 2 weeks left till i can tell you i wont post on this site again...ever. you guys have ALOT of information that has been very usefull. ummm i think that covers it all...   :salute

with all that said, any info on club seed? and what with my "karma" i explained before i wasn't trolling the site?
Posted by: Baby Farts
« on: February 27, 2013, 10:02:56 AM »

Maybe we should ask Alfie JF.  He might know  ;)
Posted by: Johnnie F.
« on: February 27, 2013, 06:51:11 AM »

I confirm having seen so as well, when I accessed "maxpowers" Facebook page a week ago. I did record some "remarkable activity" from there, as I wondered why he had opened his FB account just 4 days before he registered here:

Quote
Maximus updated his current city to Kyoto, Japan.
February 11


Maximus changed his Quotations.
February 8

Maximus is single.
February 8

Maximus started using Facebook for Android.
February 8

Joined Facebook
February 8

Of course he's not posting on here from an ISP in Kyoto, Japan. :-[

So, what silly game is he playing? ;)


Posted by: Baby Farts
« on: February 26, 2013, 09:35:55 PM »

CoolKorat,

His facebook page was actually working and not fakery as I was able to connect to it in the past. He added some very interesting friends and likes to his page.  Rajaphat University, Techno, several Korat schools, not to mention several profiles of young college girls and their facebook pages. It seems he has an infatuation with young school girls and specifically teens.  One profile he added as a friend and a "like" was "Teens 15+."  Many of the friends he added and likes were mostly young school girls with photos of themselves in very provocative positions.  Seems he would add 30+ friends and likes in one session, evident by the time stamp on his account.  Maybe he wasn't aware of this.  Nevertheless it is obvious he is someone who knows a lot about Korat and the seedy areas and one who appears to take interest in young students.  Why would he add Rajaphat, Techno, Nakorn Ratchasimsa College, and other schools to his friends list? Also, why would he add korat-farang to his friends list yet, not become a member of THAT forum and ask questions over there?
Posted by: coolkorat
« on: February 26, 2013, 06:54:15 PM »

Max - your Facebook link in your signature still doesn't work. The implication is that the Facebook link is fakery. In which case your blog identity is probably a persona.

Is the intention just to regurgitate the subject of Korat's red light area? That this subject is not a priority to most on this (and other) forums should perhaps indicate that most expats in Korat are in relationships already, and not interested.

If you search you will find there are many threads regarding Thailand's s*x industry and that it caters for the locals NOT falangs, excepting the well-known areas of BKK, Pattaya etc. You might want to try asking this question about Korat on a forum in BKK, or on Thai Visa/ Teakdoor which have a broader audience.  Then you might have more luck with people who visit Korat, rather than those who live here.

But in the meantime, some of us might appreciate some honesty on your part regarding who you are, and what you are doing manipulating forum posts.
Posted by: maxpowers
« on: February 26, 2013, 04:03:06 PM »

so what about this SEED(r+) club ? any info on this place?
Posted by: Baby Farts
« on: February 19, 2013, 07:27:11 AM »

Yeah, nothing wrong with that.  I know one guy who still continued his flings after he was married.  Hell, he even started the flinging only a few months after he got married.

Two weeks is more than enough time to have a little fun.

 :cheers
Posted by: maxpowers
« on: February 18, 2013, 09:00:21 PM »

just 2 weeks of fun. not trying to marry just want a fling. or as one of my friends likes to say "i'm tryin to "
Posted by: Baby Farts
« on: February 18, 2013, 08:06:33 PM »

Max, some of them go and some don't.  They thing is you just have to put in a little more effort.  It's not like Pattaya where you just pay the bar fine and off the girl goes, although I have seen that happen here.  Remove any thoughts about having a serious relationship with these girls.  What exactly are you looking for?  I take it you're single?
Posted by: sicho
« on: February 18, 2013, 07:56:25 PM »

Have a look yourself after your teaching day is finished. I'm surprised you haven't been there already.
Posted by: maxpowers
« on: February 18, 2013, 06:11:11 PM »

Thanks!

also i haven been wondering something. about the mall, the bar down stairs, thats is the only good thing? you guys made it seem...a little more then just a bar that serves. did i miss something or do i just have to see for my self?
Posted by: Baby Farts
« on: February 14, 2013, 06:00:01 PM »

Posted by: maxpowers
« on: February 14, 2013, 02:09:05 PM »

Please see quote above. Does any one know gibberish? It makes no sense to me.

guess I kind of repeated myself on that. I meant, the translator does not work very well, and when I translate something I can't understand what they are trying to say. Any suggestions on this? Thanks!
Posted by: Baby Farts
« on: February 14, 2013, 08:56:40 AM »

DD, those would be the two Karaoke bars with scooter boy out front shining his flashlight at passing cars.
Posted by: dodgeydave
« on: February 14, 2013, 08:46:27 AM »

i have seen but not been into 2 bars along Suepsiri road the end near Tesco lotus. The girls are very prety sitting outside
Posted by: sicho
« on: February 14, 2013, 08:00:21 AM »

It's a wind up. Treat it as such.
Posted by: coolkorat
« on: February 13, 2013, 10:27:04 PM »

no homo... i love you guys

is there a good english to thai translator web sight? google and bring just bring back giberish. or can i just hire one :P

Please see quote above. Does any one know gibberish? It makes no sense to me.
Posted by: maxpowers
« on: February 13, 2013, 09:58:53 PM »

no homo... i love you guys

is there a good english to thai translator web sight? google and bring just bring back giberish. or can i just hire one :P
Posted by: sicho
« on: February 13, 2013, 12:16:39 PM »

Basement level of the mall is a pub with live music, known to "serve" before serving hours.  Yes, lots of young waitresses, some who are willing to give you their number.

More likely they want your number so that they can pester you for days after.
Posted by: Baby Farts
« on: February 13, 2013, 08:58:31 AM »

Basement level of the mall is a pub with live music, known to "serve" before serving hours.  Yes, lots of young waitresses, some who are willing to give you their number. 
Posted by: maxpowers
« on: February 12, 2013, 08:38:05 PM »

DD the mall deserves a post i was there a couple of weeks ago, the eye contact i was getting from young old you name they with after a piece of any Farang they could, there was even a women standing in the entrance to the small with a placard advertising herself to any Farang that would take her ;D

Should have added this quote also... see what i am talking about here. i am not anti-social, but i find the language barrier to be rather difficult to overcome.
Posted by: maxpowers
« on: February 12, 2013, 08:35:14 PM »

The replies here are both misleading and over exaggerated.
A) There is no red light district in Korat.
B) Expect to pay a few thousand baht (if you go there for a night out) at karaoke bars before you "negotiate" anything sexual. Look in the dictionary and you will see "karaoke bars in Korat next to the word, PARASITE.
C) If you have ever been to a go go bar in BKK or Pattaya, save yourself the bother and don't go to Coyote bars such as swing or 2 piece. They are LAME. pay a fortune for drinks and watch Thai guys play with their giks. Go Go and Coyote are not the same.
D) If you have ever been to for a walk along beach Rd in pattaya at 10 pm on any given night, you would have seen the beach rats lining the sidewalk. Yamo park is similar, but 1/100th the amount of women.
E) "Fish bowls" are of course in korat. They are in every Thai town as is a Honda shop, 7-11, kruntep bank, a Toyota dealer, a few schools and a scattering of temples. So fish bowls here are no different in Korat to what fish bowls are in such places as Nan, Uttaradit, Chaiyapum, Siracha or any other small town you can think of. fish bowls are for "quick fixes". They don't cater for  guys looking for"fun nights out with cute girls climbing all over them".
Anyone that says Korat is as fun as BKK or sin city by the sea is indeed ill informed, lying, deluded or pulling your leg. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D And to those that enthusiastically recommend the places above, well you should venture to more flavorable places more.

I won't go into the great potential of the Mall because we are specifically discussing "red light districts".

but there is no thred discussing the great potential of the mall.... i am going to be there in a few weeks and  iwould like to make the most of it. please DO explain the jackpot that is the mall. please.
Posted by: sicho
« on: February 10, 2013, 08:27:07 AM »

That's very, very sad.

Many don't understand the hell that victims of child abuse suffer throughout their lives. Ruthless cross examination of a victim who is a witness can stir the pot to, it seems, a point where the victim can no longer cope. Such cross examinations are necessary, perhaps, to ensure that the witness is telling the truth, but appropriate professional support for those people should be offered.
Posted by: Johnnie F.
« on: February 10, 2013, 12:16:53 AM »

Sexual abuse victim killed herself after giving evidence at choirmaster trial

Frances Andrade's body found after she gave evidence against former music teacher later convicted of indecent assault


Violinist Frances Andrade told a friend that giving evidence had felt like being 'raped all over again'.

A professional violinist killed herself after giving evidence at the trial of her former music teacher, who was found guilty of five counts of indecent assault on Friday.

Jurors in the case against Michael Brewer were not told of Frances Andrade's death until after they reached a verdict.

Brewer, 68, the former director of music at the world-renowned Chetham's school of music in Manchester, was found guilty of five charges of indecently assaulting Andrade when she was 14 and 15 and a pupil at the school.

He was cleared on three further indecent assault charges and was found not guilty of raping Andrade when she was 18. His ex-wife, Hilary Kay Brewer, also 68, was found guilty of indecently assaulting Andrade when she was 18, but found not guilty of aiding and abetting rape.

The judge warned them to expect custodial sentences.

The Guardian has learned that Andrade, 48, texted a friend three days before her death to say she felt like she had been "raped all over again" after appearing in the witness box at Manchester crown court last month to face Brewer.

The mother of four texted that she felt "fragmented". Asked by a friend if the verdict would make a difference to the way she felt. "No either is awful x," Andrade texted back.

Complaining about a robust cross-examination by Brewer's barrister, who accused her of telling "a pack of lies", she wrote sarcastically: "I'm a fantasist with the Electra complex seeking attention." The judge later said the cross-examination was proper and correct.

Andrade had not initiated the police investigation which led to the trial. Friends said she did not present herself as a "victim" and would have hated to be seen as such. They say she never wanted to give evidence against the Brewers.

Giving evidence, Brewer denied all of Andrade's allegations but admitted to an affair with a 17-year-old pupil at Chetham's in 1994. He resigned when the affair was discovered and the school said he had stepped down for "health reasons". Brewer went on to become the artistic director of the National Youth Choirs of Great Britain and has also directed the World Youth Choir. He served as an adjudicator in international competitions and in 2008 led BBC workshops for the programme Last Choir Standing.

Andrade killed herself the day after Brewer started to give evidence. In the witness box he called her a "fantasist" who was "largely living a fantasy life". The day before her death she had also been told that the judge had directed the jury to find Brewer not guilty on five of the indecent assault charges on the original indictment. The judge said those charges, which related to sexual activity by a canal in Manchester, fell outside the statute of limitations because Andrade admitted in evidence that she may have been over the age of consent at the time, which was 16.


Michael Brewer and Kay Brewer Michael Brewer and his ex-wife Kay Brewer. Photograph: Dave Thompson/PA

When the judge heard of Andrade's death, he adjourned the case for three days. After discussions with the Crown Prosecution Service and the attorney general, Dominic Grieve, he agreed to proceed with the trial. All subsequent witnesses were carefully briefed not to let slip that Andrade had died and all media were sent a reporting restriction from the attorney general's office forbidding any reporting of her death.

The jury had been told that Andrade had not initiated the police investigation which led to the trial. It was the mother of one of her violin pupils who raised the alarm in 2011, the court heard.

Andrade told the jury she had been furious at the woman's intervention but agreed to give evidence against Brewer.

"I think she felt morally obligated because she had been asked to help in the case," said Kirsten Klingels, a longtime friend of Andrade. "She had overcome many challenges in her life and was an incredibly strong person. I think she thought she was strong enough to go through this."

But her friends told the Guardian she had already tried to kill herself as the trial approached. "Fran had been understandably emotionally fragile in the runup to the trial," said Jackie Shave, another friend.

Andrade told the jury she had self-harmed all her life. "Self harming was the means by which I knew I was alive," she said in court, revealing that she gave herself "black eyes" ahead of her audition for Chetham's. Adopted as a baby, she claimed in court that she had been sexually abused by an uncle from a young age and was badly affected by the death of her adopted father when she was a girl. She never got on well with her adopted mother, she said.

Shave said that despite her difficult upbringing Andrade did not wallow in sadness and was always looking to the future, not the past. "She had so much to live for – she was a truly wonderful mother. I felt she was determined to give to her children all the love and care she so sadly was denied herself," she said.

Klingels said "She was such a joyous person who brought light into all of her lives with her acute mind and loving, caring character."

Everyone, including Brewer, agreed that Andrade had a remarkable talent for the violin.

Fiona Stephen, a friend of 30 years, said: "Fran was a phenomenal player. Even when she was a teenager she played with such depth and intensity, it was like she had lived a thousand lives."

Anne Sophie-Mutter, the German concert violinist, once said Andrade was responsible for "the most passionate violin playing I have ever heard". Another famous violinist, Victor Lieberman, said her music was "perfect in sound and expression".

Both tributes were included in the programme for Andrade's funeral, which took place in Guildford crematorium on Monday. It was packed with more than 200 mourners, guests said. Two of her children gave a tribute at the funeral, along with her husband and two friends.

Peter Cadwallader, prosecuting barrister in the Brewer trial, attended the funeral, along with Detective Constable Mark Atkinson of Greater Manchester police, who was the officer investigating the case.

Vulnerable victims giving evidence in courts are offered the opportunity to give evidence behind a screen or via video link. Andrade turned down these special measures, preferring instead to appear in open court and face Brewer.

She was a combative, confident and emotional witness. When Kate Blackwell QC, Brewer's barrister, alleged her account of being raped by the Brewers at their house was "utter fantasy", Andrade loudly replied: "Bollocks".

"You have told this jury a complete pack of lies about the visit to this house," said Blackwell.

Andrade replied: "This is why cases don't come to court. This happened."

"You spent the night lying next to two of your rapists?" asked the barrister, referring to Andrade's account of sleeping three in a bed with the Brewers after she said they had raped her.

Andrade answered: "But this happened. I felt guilty, I did not know how to get out of it.

"This is a lie," said Blackwell. "You could have left the house at any time."

Andrade replied: "You have got no idea clearly about what it is like to be raped. You have clearly no feminine understanding of what someone goes through like that. What shock your body goes through. How you almost feel you deserve it."

Judge Martin Rudland said on Thursday that Blackwell had been "perfectly proper and correct in her examination of all the witnesses in this case".

After Andrade's death the police strongly defended the decision to prosecute. Detective Chief Inspector Dave Pester, from South Manchester division, said: "This case was initially investigated by Surrey constabulary and then referred to GMP [Greater Manchester police], at which point a specially trained detective was allocated to investigate the offences and to act as a single point of contact for the victim.

"Throughout the investigation and trial, the victim was supported by Greater Manchester police and other partner agencies. At no time did the investigating officer believe that the victim was anything other than determined to give evidence in this case. She was fully aware of the judicial process and of the special measures that were available to her as she gave evidence."

The Guardian

This judge could not keep the defense lawyer from accusing a witness in the courtroom as liar? And he couldn't find any more objective sounding words than "perfectly proper and correct in her examination of all the witnesses in this case" after the suicide was related to that lawyer's behaviour"? :o
Posted by: thaiga
« on: January 24, 2013, 02:27:48 PM »



Eddie Waring must be turning in his grave :-[
 

It's A Knockout BBC TV Opening Titles Compilation
Posted by: Johnnie F.
« on: January 23, 2013, 08:53:10 PM »

It's not gonna stop!

Broadcaster Stuart Hall charged with rape

Stuart Hall The presenter was arrested after attending a police station by appointment

Broadcaster Stuart Hall has been charged with one offence of rape and 14 offences of indecent assault, Lancashire Police have said.

Mr Hall, 83, of Wilmslow, Cheshire, was arrested on Tuesday after attending a police station by appointment.

The rape is alleged to have been committed in 1976 against a 22-year-old woman.

The indecent assaults are alleged to have taken place between 1967 and 1986 on 10 girls aged between nine and 16.

Mr Hall has been bailed to appear before magistrates in Preston on 7 February.

A Lancashire Police statement said: "Following consultation with the Crown Prosecution Service an 83-year-old man has this evening been charged with one offence of rape and 14 offences of indecent assault."

Mr Hall pleaded not guilty to three charges of indecent assault when he appeared at Preston Magistrates' Court earlier this month. The court referred these charges to Preston Crown Court.

The broadcaster is best known for his sports reporting on BBC Radio 5 live - as well as his work on the 1970s TV show It's A Knockout.

Mr Hall has been a familiar face and voice in British broadcasting for half a century and became an OBE in the 2012 New Year Honours for services to broadcasting and charity.

BBC news
Posted by: Johnnie F.
« on: January 22, 2013, 09:02:38 AM »

...and his ghost will keep on haunting - children's TV:

BBC receives 216 complaints for Tweenies Jimmy Savile spoof


Tweenies character Max dressed as Jimmy Savile Max appeared wearing a wig and costume in the sketch

The BBC has received 216 complaints about an episode of The Tweenies, in which a character appeared dressed as disgraced TV presenter Jimmy Savile.

The programme, which was filmed in 2001, was shown on CBeebies before 09:00 GMT on Sunday.

In the scene, the character Max appeared in a blonde wig, wearing Savile's trademark tracksuits and using his accent and catchphrases.

Thirty-four people also contacted the BBC to comment on the programme.

A spokesperson for the BBC said the majority of the complaints were made immediately after the programme was broadcast.

Police say DJ and presenter Savile sexually abused hundreds of people during 60 years in entertainment.

Apologising for the sketch, the BBC said: "This morning CBeebies broadcast a repeat of an episode of the Tweenies, originally made in 2001, featuring a character dressed as a DJ impersonating Jimmy Savile. This programme will not be repeated and we are very sorry for any offence caused."

Media watchdog Ofcom said it was assessing whether any broadcasting rules have been broken, but was not currently investigating.

It is understood that the regulator received "tens, rather than hundreds" of complaints about the episode.

The episode featured the character Max presenting a Top Of The Pops-style programme. He was wearing a wig and used Savile's familiar catchphrase: "Now then, guys and gals."

The gaffe was picked up by fans on social networking sites such as Twitter.

Glenn Ebrey tweeted: "Dear CBeebies, I'm not sure this was a good choice of DJ to impersonate on The Tweenies today."

Kenny Senior wrote "Are BBC trying to self destruct? Max from Tweenies dressed as Jimmy Savile just now nearly chokes on my cornflakes."

A recent Metropolitan police report into allegations of sexual abuse against Savile, who died in 2011 aged 84, concluded the presenter and DJ was a "prolific, predatory sex offender" who abused more than 200 people over a 60-year period.

The Tweenies, which was a co-production between Tell-Tale Productions and the BBC was cancelled in 2003 but episodes have been repeated regularly since then.

Episodes mixed stories, song and creative activities aimed at helping children to learn through play.

BBC news
Posted by: sicho
« on: January 11, 2013, 08:04:49 PM »

I assumed that Sovile had been harassing mainly star struck underage teens. Now we find that he abused an eight year old and some poor soul in a hospice. Also, police received complaints during his fifty year career of abuse but ignored them. Time now to expose abusers in the establishment, including police officers.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20981611
Posted by: sicho
« on: December 12, 2012, 09:47:26 AM »

It's reported that the police investigation into Savile is complete. Good, soon we will find out what he was up to with Heath, Mountbatten and a few other public figures. On the other hand, these investigations never do go that far, do they?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20686219
Posted by: sicho
« on: December 07, 2012, 01:28:58 PM »

What a turn up!
Posted by: Johnnie F.
« on: December 07, 2012, 12:30:46 PM »


'Damaging and totally untrue': Max Clifford speaks out against allegations after his arrest in Jimmy Savile sex abuse investigation

69-year-old was held at 7.40am and taken to a central London police station



He once said he loved being “at the centre of everything and being in control”. Britain's best-known publicist Max Clifford secured half of his stated aim at 7.40am today when he was arrested by police investigating claims of historical sex abuse.

Mr Clifford, 69, the fabled master spinner and friend to the stars, was arrested at his Surrey home on suspicion of "sexual offences" and questioned at a central London police station, before being released on bail tonight.

He became the fifth man to be arrested by officers of Operation Yewtree following the avalanche of allegations since the outing of Jimmy Savile as a predatory paedophile in a television documentary in October.

Mr Clifford, whose arrest is understood not to be directly linked with Savile, said last night that the allegation dated back to 1977. Standing outside the police station, he said in a short statement that the claims were "damaging and totally untrue", adding they were "very distressing for myself, my wife, my family and loved ones".

Scotland Yard declined to give further details about the nature of the allegations today, but Mr Clifford had already been centre stage in the saga. He said last month that he had been contacted by more than a dozen major stars and managers who were concerned about the growing scandal and had asked him to "keep them in the picture".

"It is a situation which could easily turn into a witch-hunt, a lot of big stars are frightened," he said during a round of media interviews. "Where is it going to end?" he asked.

Asked whether he was "compromising himself" by acting for people who may have been involved in unwitting underage sex, he said: "It's very simple – I am very close friends with a lot of these people and have been for 40 to 50 years. They know I'm in the middle of the media world, so I'm the first person that they turn to, not just on this subject but lots of subjects."

The arrest marked a stunning development for a man who has been the architect of tabloid "kiss-and-tells" involving major public figures for decades. He was catapulted into the big time after The Sun ran the headline "Freddie Starr ate My Hamster" with his permission – even though the comedian has always denied the allegation. He later told the Leveson Inquiry that he had recognised it would be great publicity for Starr as he embarked on a new tour.

He has since had his fingerprints on numerous classic tabloid front-page stories involving David Beckham, David Mellor, Jude Law and Sven-Goran Eriksson. He has also been caught on camera talking about how he successfully suppressed scandals.

In an old video that only came to light last month, Mr Clifford spoke of how he would create a "false image" for clients as "long as they're not interfering with little kids".

Mr Starr was one of the other five men arrested during the course of the investigation. Gary Glitter, the former radio DJ Dave Lee Travis and former television producer Wilfred De'Ath have all been arrested and subsequently bailed.

A man in his 80s from Berkshire has also been questioned as part of the police inquiry that now involves 30 officers and has cost £2m. They have all denied any wrongdoing.

The spokesman's spokeswoman

With the master publicist unavailable for comment until late last night, the task of confirming Max Clifford's arrest today fell to his solicitor, Charlotte Harris, below, a media specialist at law firm Mishcon de Reya. She represented Mr Clifford in 2010 when News International settled his phone-hacking case for £991,000. The website of Max Clifford Associates, the company he set up in the 1970s after working as a reporter and music PR, had no mention of the arrest. However, a fundraising dinner at which he was due to speak on Monday has been cancelled.

The Independent
Posted by: sicho
« on: November 16, 2012, 08:04:09 AM »

A swift apology by the BBC doesn't mean that they got it wrong. It just means that they have quite enough poo to deal with now and can do without a public row with someone who is still alive and protected by the Establishment.

Have a look at this as an example of the stories that have been going around for years but have so far not been investigated:

http://pebpr.blogspot.com/
Posted by: thaiga
« on: October 28, 2012, 08:51:52 PM »

Tessa Dahl on Gary Glitter's 'This Is Your Life' talking about bringing school girls to see Glitter. When he clutches his neck defensively and goes "Shushhh!"...just unbelievable!

Gary Glitter & The School Girls On 'This Is Your Life'.

0:37 Ssshhhhh! He looked very uncomfortable.
Posted by: Johnnie F.
« on: October 28, 2012, 07:35:41 PM »

Gary Glitter arrested by Jimmy Savile police

Former pop star becomes first person to be arrested in relation to police inquiry into sexual abuse by Jimmy Savile


Gary Glitter is escorted from an address in central London to a police station by officers investigating Jimmy Savile abuse claims

Gary Glitter has become the first person to be arrested in relation to the police inquiry into sexual abuse by Jimmy Savile.

Scotland Yard detectives working on Operation Yewtree have received information from more than 300 alleged victims and further arrests are expected.

Glitter, whose real name is Paul Gadd, was detained at 7.15am on Sunday at an address in central London and taken to a police station in the capital. He was filmed leaving his home wearing a hat and dark coat and gloves, and being driven away.

Glitter was jailed for four months in the UK in 1999 after admitting possessing a collection of 4,000 hardcore photographs of children being abused. In 2006, he was sentenced to three years in jail by a Vietnamese court for sexually molesting two girls. Glitter had always maintained he was innocent of the charges.

A Scotland Yard spokesman said: "Officers working on Operation Yewtree have today arrested a man in his 60s in connection with the investigation. The man, from London, was arrested at approximately 7.15am on suspicion of sexual offences, and has been taken into custody at a London police station.

"The individual falls under the strand of the investigation we have termed 'Savile and others'."

Publicist Max Clifford said on Saturday that up to 15 celebrities had approached him, fearful that their sexual exploits in the 1960s and 1970s might lead to them being caught up in the police inquiry.

The chairman of the BBC Trust, Lord Patten, has said he is dedicated to finding out the truth about the scandal that has thrown the corporation into crisis, vowing there would be "no covering our backs".

The corporation is braced for legal ramifications arising from allegations that other BBC employees were involved and questions remain over what bosses knew, and when, about the Newsnight investigation into Savile that was pulled.

Writing in the Mail on Sunday, Lord Patten questioned whether Savile could have committed the alleged crimes without anyone else knowing.

He said: "Can it really be the case that no one knew what he was doing? Did some turn a blind eye to criminality? Did some prefer not to follow up their suspicions because of this criminal's popularity and place in the schedules? Were reports of criminality put aside or buried? Even those of us who were not there at the time are inheritors of the shame."

The BBC chairman said the two independent inquiries that have been set up – one into the Newsnight report and the other into the BBC's culture and practices in the years Savile worked there – must get to the truth of what happened.

He wrote: "Now my immediate priority is to get to the bottom of the Savile scandal and to make any and every change necessary in the BBC to learn the lessons from our independent investigations."

The Guardian
Posted by: Taman Tun
« on: October 22, 2012, 06:30:53 PM »

Just for info
Posted by: sicho
« on: October 20, 2012, 05:40:40 PM »

Posted by: Taman Tun
« on: October 20, 2012, 02:57:19 PM »

Thanks Saf, Yes maybe that is why he got away with it for so long ..many powerful and influential people were involved.  No wonder the BBC are sh.....g themselves
This is interesting if you have a spare hour:- Sun Sea & Satan FULL DOCUMENTARY
Posted by: sicho
« on: October 20, 2012, 02:47:46 PM »

The Saville-Heath connection was rumoured in public during Saville's lifetime.

I wonder whether that Mountbatten chap was a customer of Saville's. He had a number of perverted interests, including young boys and died with one on his boat.

http://janamejayan.wordpress.com/2012/09/07/a-spicy-menage-a-trois-the-shocking-love-triangle-between-lord-mountbatten-his-wife-and-the-founder-of-modern-india/
Posted by: Taman Tun
« on: October 20, 2012, 02:35:47 PM »

The main stream media are still skirting around one of the possible participants.  The Haut de la Garenne children’s home on Jersey was apparently a regular supplier to yachtsmen.  Step forward Sir Edward Richard George Heath, KG, MBE, PC.  Johnnie, this should not affect your libel insurance cover as Ted is already late.

Just saw this on a probably dodgy website:- A source spoke to one of his victims and he said about others who were present, and more important, who was supplying the children to him. The person bringing children for him to abuse is Sir Jimmy Saville. He was seen by the witness, victim, taking young boys onboard Heaths yacht The Morning Cloud when they were at party conference. Saville is known for supplying a number of high profile MP’s with children for them to sexually abuse.
Posted by: sicho
« on: October 20, 2012, 10:46:23 AM »

amazing he got a knighthood from Queen Elizabeth II in 1996
and Papal knighthood from Pope John Paul II in 1990.

seems the people in the know don't   

Some don't and some say they don't. When did a Pope shy away from honouring a paedophile?
Posted by: thaiga
« on: October 20, 2012, 10:39:39 AM »

amazing he got a knighthood from Queen Elizabeth II in 1996
and Papal knighthood from Pope John Paul II in 1990.

seems the people in the know don't   
Posted by: sicho
« on: October 20, 2012, 09:15:46 AM »

Stories about Wilfred Brambell's nasty habits were circulating even while Steptoe was being aired. If ordinary people heard them, why not the BBC and the police?

I suspect that the storm brewed up by the Saville revelations will be diverted by the establishment to a few 'celebrities' who will be sacrificed in order to protect the network as a whole. Why not? That's been going on for decades at least. Who would be able to carry out an effective investigation of the police force, judiciary and Members of Parliament? Have you seen the CNN report today about the cover up of decades of abuse within the Boy Scouts of America?
Posted by: thaiga
« on: October 19, 2012, 09:26:51 PM »

Now the net widens: Detectives in Jimmy Savile probe target new celebrities

Detectives investigating Jimmy Savile today announced a criminal inquiry into child abuse allegations involving living celebrities.

Scotland Yard revealed they had identified more than 200 possible victims of either Savile or other stars. The senior officer leading the inquiry said: “We are dealing with alleged abuse on an unprecedented scale.”

Sources say the vast majority of the allegations and the victims who have come forward relate to allegations against Savile. Police are understood to be examining a “handful” of cases involving living celebrities.

About half a dozen have been accused of child abuse on BBC premises or while they were employed by the corporation. They include Savile and Steptoe And Son actor Wilfrid Brambell, both of whom are now dead.

Celebrities who have been named as either knowing about and even taking part in the abuse include convicted paedophile Gary Glitter and entertainer Freddie Starr. Both have denied the allegations.

Among those not named are a soap actor and a former BBC radio presenter. Scotland Yard refused to give a figure for the number of stars under investigation. They face arrest and questioning. Scotland Yard said in a statement: “As we have said from the outset, our work was never going to take us into a police investigation into Jimmy Savile.

“What we have established in the last two weeks is that there are lines of inquiry involving living people that require formal investigation.”

A spokesman said the Operation Yewtree inquiry had established more than 400 lines of inquiry and identified more than 200 potential victims.

Commander Peter Spindler said: “The public’s response to this issue has been astounding. We are dealing with alleged abuse on an unprecedented scale. The profile of this operation has empowered a staggering number of victims to come forward to report the sexual exploitation which occurred during their childhood.

“I am pleased that victims feel confident enough to speak out about the abuse they suffered and would like to reassure the public that we take all these cases very seriously and they will be investigated with the utmost sensitivity.”

Peter Watt, head of the charity NSPCC’s helpline, said: “It’s now looking possible that Jimmy Savile was one of the most prolific sex offenders the NSPCC has ever come across. We have received over 136 calls directly relating to allegations against him, which we’ve passed to the police.”

BBC bosses are to make a decision on Sunday over the airing of a new investigation into the Savile scandal. A Panorama programme focusing on why an original Newsnight inquiry was pulled  was due to go out on Monday.

But the show’s bosses today revealed that it could run after BBC director-general George Entwistle appears before the culture, media and sport select committee on Tuesday. A BBC spokesman said staff would be working over the weekend to get the programme ready. But another is already scheduled for the BBC1 slot.

It came as a leaked email cast doubt on the BBC’s stated reason for cancelling the Newsnight inquiry.

The email, written by press officer Helen Deller and dated December 7, reveals that Newsnight journalists had been “focusing on allegations of abuse” and also gives the impression that it was a lot closer to transmission than the BBC has let on.

Its official line is that it was dropped because it was focusing on a different angle it was unable to “substantiate”.

http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/now-the-net-widens-detectives-in-jimmy-savile-probe-target-new-celebrities-8218553.html
Posted by: Johnnie F.
« on: October 17, 2012, 08:04:35 AM »

Saf you are right.  Johnnie I hope your Libel account has a  healthy balance.

Poor Johnnie must be quaking in his boot's  :lol

No problem there for me, as you have agreed to this at registration:

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With the wide range of topics covered in this forum nobody can expect from me to tell everything to be 100% correct or not, especially in discussions about topics regarding other countries like GB, as long as abuse isn't plain to see. Of course as German I'd be expected to control things within my 'natural' interest, i. e. my home country Germany a bit more. And as this is a niche forum dealing with topics about Nakhon Ratchasima I'd also be expected to monitor those topics closer. No need to be quaking in my boots, when you Brits talk about your home country, what's going on there and why you ran away to Thailand. :)
Posted by: sicho
« on: October 16, 2012, 09:22:20 PM »

I mentioned no names of the living!  ;D

The wrong done as regards the title is that he was given one is the first place when there was knowledge of his activities.

Back in the very early '70s, a friend of mine told me that Saville was seen by his brother to arrive at the Imperial Hotel in Torquay in his Radio 1 camper van, get out with a very young girl and check into the hotel with her. I don't believe that those vetting nominations for titles had no inkling of his illegal activities.
Posted by: dodgeydave
« on: October 16, 2012, 08:47:56 PM »

Poor Johnnie must be quaking in his boot's  :lol

But i think Saf ( Lawyers please note the name) is right. And wonder how much she will sing to save her neck . but also wonder if this not a show trail to appaise the peasent's
Posted by: thaiga
« on: October 16, 2012, 08:43:43 PM »

We can’t strip Jimmy Savile of his title? Oh yes we bloody well can

So apparently Jimmy Savile can’t be stripped of his knighthood even after all the revelations about his extensive abuse of children has come to light.

According to the Cabinet Office, the forfeiture committee cannot strip people of their honours posthumously because they ‘die’ along with the bearer.

So that’s that then. We all just shrug our shoulders and say what a pity.

But hang on a minute. Why can’t people can’t be stripped of their honours or titles posthumously?

Are British titles like ‘sir’ or ‘lord’ or honours like OBEs bound by the laws of nature?

Are the complicated rules and traditions which dictate what can and can’t be done with our titled and honoured members of society entirely subject to dictats from God or bound by inviolable rules of physics?

Whatever some people in the more conservative parts of our country may think, honours and titles are not part of some natural order. They are all entirely man-made – literally – and as something invented by ‘men’ they can be un-invented by ‘men’ too.

The rule that honours and titles can’t be stripped posthumously is not an inviolable law of nature. It can be changed. Very easily in fact.

There is nothing to stop parliament passing a law stripping Savile – or anyone else for that matter – of his title. It might be unprecedented but impossible? No. It could be done in an afternoon if there is the will.

But there, perhaps, is the crux of the problem.

Is there really the will?  If a law were to be presented to parliament stripping Savile or any other paedophile or criminal of their honours or titles, would it be passed unanimously? Or would some of the more Conservatively minded of our representatives stand up and speak against it because it goes against ‘centuries of British tradition’ or whatever?

It would be interesting to find out.

This whole discussion around titles and honours is indicative of a bigger problem in British society in general. Too often our blind adherence to tradition means we accept the status quo – even if it means allowing and even enabling behaviour which would under normal circumstances be abhorrent to most people. We too readily turn a blind eye to unacceptable behaviour by powerful or famous people precisely because we’ve always turned a blind eye to it.

And this unquestioning blindness to the actions of our so-called ‘betters’ has resulted in other scandals too – apart from the one involving Savile – for example child abuse in the church, as well more recent scandals such as phone hacking and Hillsborough.

But why go to all the bother of stripping Savile of his honours, some may ask? He’s dead now so what good would it do?

It’s important because it would show that Britain is no longer a place where people in positions of influence or power can do what they want with complete impunity, no matter how powerful they are or whatever titles or honours they hold.

And that’s important because that is precisely how Savile and others like him were able to get away with what they did for so long.

Savile thought he was untouchable in real life – he said so himself as much – and the sad truth of the fact is that he was right. Nobody believed those poor children because he was untouchable in life.

Stripping him of his title posthumously will show once and for all that there is nobody in this country who is untouchable or above the law – in life or in death. 

Posted by: Taman Tun
« on: October 16, 2012, 08:35:39 PM »

Saf you are right.  Johnnie I hope your Libel account has a  healthy balance.
Posted by: sicho
« on: October 16, 2012, 08:13:51 PM »

Ted Heath?  I would not wish that on my worst enemy.  There is another Tory sex scandal going around where the main stream media seem to be afraid to go into details: Mr Cameron and Mrs Brookes

Ah yes, the sms messages. I suspect that she screwed anyone who would give her information that might secure her in her job. Now that she's in deep doo doo she might reveal more than she did for certian politicians.
Posted by: Taman Tun
« on: October 16, 2012, 11:34:25 AM »

Ted Heath?  I would not wish that on my worst enemy.  There is another Tory sex scandal going around where the main stream media seem to be afraid to go into details: Mr Cameron and Mrs Brookes
Posted by: sicho
« on: October 16, 2012, 08:47:47 AM »

I doubted that his crimes were limited to young girls, not least because of the stories that were around a while ago about him allegedly being the procurer of young boys for Ted Heath. Now it's coming out:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2217891/Do-want-earn-badge--Ex-Cub-Scout-tells-Jimmy-Savile-sexually-abused-NINE.html?openGraphAuthor=%2Fhome%2Fsearch.html%3Fs%3D%26authornamef%3DAndrew%2BLevy
Posted by: thaiga
« on: October 14, 2012, 11:43:50 AM »

Savile was first investigated by police “for interfering with young girls” when a nightclub manager in Leeds as long ago as 1958. His former bodyguard has told The Sunday Telegraph that Savile claimed to have paid officers to drop the case.

It was the first in a series of at least six investigations that included:

An inquiry into underage sex taking place in the Top of the Pops changing rooms in the late 1960s, according to the show’s then producer. Police interviewed BBC staff but did not pursue a case;

An allegation in 1971 that Savile was involved with a 15-year-old dancer on Top of the Pops, who committed suicide. The girl’s half-brother said Savile was interviewed as a witness, but no further action was taken;

Jimmy Savile Sex Abuse The "Tip Of The Iceberg".

Claims that Savile was abusing patients at Stoke Mandeville Hospital in the late 1970s. John Lindsay, a detective constable at the time, reported the allegations – made by a nurse – to his commanding officer but was told there was not enough evidence to proceed against a celebrity of Savile’s stature;

Two further police investigations in the past five years, including one in Surrey in 2007 over claims of an indecent assault at Duncroft Approved School for Girls. Savile was interviewed by police but the case was dropped due to lack of evidence.

In further evidence that there were widespread suspicions about Savile, Tony Blackburn, a fellow DJ and presenter, said that it was to his “eternal regret” that his former BBC colleague had been “allowed to get away with these monstrous acts”.

The revelations raise serious concerns that the BBC covered up Savile’s sex crimes at the time to protect the reputation of one of their biggest stars.

George Entwistle, the BBC’s director-general, insisted last week that the corporation could find no evidence of allegations of abuse by Savile in its files. In his first intervention since Savile’s behaviour was made public, Blackburn, 69, told The Sunday Telegraph: “I am disgusted beyond words at the vile, despicable actions of Jimmy Savile.

“He was never a friend. He was not a nice man despite how the public viewed him at the peak of his success. There were always rumours circulating about him. The problem at the time was that rumour was always hard to translate into fact. Jimmy Savile was a master manipulator.”

Scotland Yard said yesterday that the number of likely victims had reached 60 with 340 lines of inquiry pursued by 14 forces. The NSPCC has received more than 100 complaints.

Peter Watt, the head of the NSPCC’s helpline, said: “The number of incidents reported have reached treble figures making him a hugely prolific sex offender – one of the worst I’ve ever heard of.”

Inquiries by The Sunday Telegraph show Savile first escaped justice in Leeds in 1958. Dennis Lemmon, now 80, his minder at the time, recalled Savile, who ran a nightclub, being in a bad mood because he faced a court hearing the next day for “interfering with young girls”.

Mr Lemmon said: “He was really worried but everything was dropped. I was told he paid them [the police] off.”

In the late 1960s, police interviewed BBC staff over allegations of under-age sex in musicians’ changing rooms. Savile was not the focus of that investigation although it is clear he was offending at that stage.

Stanley Dorfman, 84, the show’s producer and director in the 1960s, said: “They [police] came and talked to everybody because apparently there had been under-age girls in dressing rooms. It went on for a couple of weeks or so and then they disappeared.”

In 1971, prompted by the suicide of Clair McAlpine, a 15-year-old dancer on Top of the Pops, police launched another investigation. Miss McAlpine, who overdosed on sleeping pills, had left behind a diary detailing claims of being “used” by celebrities.

Her claims were largely dismissed as fantasy by detectives. Her half-brother, Mark Ufland, said: “Jimmy Savile was in the diary for having some sort of sexual relationship with her. As far as I know, Jimmy Savile was interviewed as a witness. My mother told me that the diary went to the police and never came back.”

In the late 1970s, John Lindsay, a police officer, reported to superiors the concerns of a nurse at Stoke Mandeville Hospital but was told to drop the investigation.

After presenter Jonathan King’s conviction in 2001 for abusing boys, it is understood police looked again at Savile but, again, according to a police source, there was no firm evidence.

In 2007, Surrey police questioned Savile over allegations of child sex abuse in the 1970s at Duncroft school. The Crown Prosecution Service advised there was insufficient evidence. Again in 2008 Sussex Police received a complaint of sexual assault by Savile that allegedly took place in Worthing in 1970.

The BBC’s handling of the case has also come under the spotlight. An investigation by Newsnight into Savile was dropped while two tribute programmes were allowed to go ahead by Mr Entwistle. John Whittingdale, a Tory MP and chairman of the culture select committee, said he was likely to call Mr Entwistle to give evidence to MPs.

Lord Patten, the chairman of the BBC Trust, said last night: “We all have things to answer for but, clearly, the BBC has more questions than the others because these things happened on our premises and he was an employee.”

A BBC spokesman said of the Clair McAlpine inquest: “No adverse finding was made against the BBC by the coroner. According to our records, the allegations did not relate to Savile.”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/jimmy-savile/9606494/Jimmy-Savile-police-officers-repeatedly-failed-sex-victims.html
Posted by: thaiga
« on: October 12, 2012, 12:30:25 AM »

A Leeds hospital where Sir Jimmy Savile worked as a volunteer will be part of investigations into alleged sexual abuse by the DJ, police have confirmed.

Savile volunteered at Leeds General Infirmary (LGI) in the 1960s and 1970s, and continued his charity work there until his death in October 2011.

One former patient told the BBC she had seen Savile abuse a fellow female patient who was "incapacitated".

Leeds Teaching Hospitals Trust said it would help police if asked to do so.
'Long association'

The Metropolitan Police, which is handling the case, said it could not confirm the specific lines of inquiry it would be following up at the LGI.

A Leeds Teaching Hospitals Trust spokesman said it was "shocked" at the nature of the serious allegations being made against Savile.

It was concerned about those allegations in view of the star's "long association" with hospitals in the city.

"We did not have any complaints about Jimmy Savile's behaviour during the time he was a volunteer and charity supporter at Leeds General Infirmary or at any of our other hospitals," the spokesman said.

"Any evidence about alleged criminal acts should be referred to the police so they can look into them. Leeds Teaching Hospitals will, of course, assist the police in any investigation if we are asked to do so."

June Thornton, a patient at the LGI in the 1970s, told BBC Look North she had witnessed Savile come into her ward and abuse a female patient who was incapacitated.

"Jimmy Savile came in and kissed her. I thought at the time that he was a relative," she said.

"But then he started kissing her neck and running his hands up and down her arms, and then he started to molest her."

Mrs Thornton said she had been unable to intervene as she was too unwell at the time.
'Public opinion'

Earlier, a conference centre in Leeds named after Savile announced it was to be rebranded.

Royal Armouries International, which owns Saviles Hall at Clarence Dock, said it would be renamed "out of respect for public opinion".

It said further information about the move would be "issued in due course".

Saviles Hall, which can seat up to 1,000 people, was named after Savile in 2007 and played host to fund-raising auctions after his death.

The decision to rename it came hours after the headstone on Savile's grave was removed.

A footpath sign in Scarborough commemorating Savile has also been taken down by the borough council.

A plaque outside Savile's flat in Scarborough was removed last week after the words "rapist" and "paedophile" were written on it.

And Leeds City Council has taken Savile's name off an inscription on a wall commemorating high-profile citizens at the city's Civic Hall.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-19894010

Posted by: thaiga
« on: October 10, 2012, 11:13:27 AM »

The gravestone of Sir Jimmy Savile has been removed from a Scarborough cemetery.


The gravestone had been unveiled in September

His family said they were dismantling the triple headstone memorial "out of respect to public opinion" following allegations he sexually abused girls.

Scotland Yard said it is pursuing 120 separate lines of inquiry and there could be 30 victims.

Work to remove the stone - which bears the inscription "It was good while it lasted" - finished around midnight.

A family spokesman said the decision had been made due to "the impact the stone remaining there could have on the dignity and sanctity of the cemetery".

Sir Jimmy had a long association with Scarborough and was buried there after his death, aged 84, in October 2011.

A spokeswoman for Scarborough Borough Council said: "We have been advised by the funeral directors, Joseph A Hey and Son, acting on behalf of Jimmy Savile's family, that the headstone at Woodlands Cemetery has been removed."

The Jim'll Fix It and Top Of The Pops presenter was buried in a gold coffin at a 45-degree angle at the cemetery, facing the sea, at his own request.

The coffin was later encased in concrete as a "security measure" amid speculation about its contents.

Although he was buried in November 2011, the triple headstone was only unveiled last month.

Earlier on Tuesday, the Metropolitan Police said they were pursuing 120 separate lines of inquiry after recording eight allegations against the Leeds-born entertainer, including two accusations of rape.

Plaque vandalised
 
The investigation follows claims made about the BBC broadcaster in an ITV documentary last week.

BBC Director General George Entwistle has promised a "comprehensive examination" of the allegations concerning Sir Jimmy's time at the corporation.

Mr Entwistle said all "outstanding questions" would be addressed after the police had finished their inquiries.

The removal of the headstones comes days after a footpath sign in Scarborough commemorating Sir Jimmy was taken down by the borough council.

A plaque outside his flat in Scarborough was also taken down last week after the words "rapist" and "paedophile" were written on it

Leeds City Council has removed his name from an inscription on a wall commemorating high profile citizens at the city's Civic Hall.

And a wooden statue of Sir Jimmy which stood outside Scotstoun Leisure Centre in Glasgow was also removed from public display after the allegations were broadcast last week.

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The gravestone is also inscribed with verses composed by a family friend
Posted by: dodgeydave
« on: October 09, 2012, 07:43:56 PM »

What you have to understand there is a politically correct element in the UK and saying sorry seems to be the latest think to do. And of course makes everything right.
The real question is why were all these things covered up in the first place ???



Sorry seems to be the easiest word, Dave
By RICHARD LITTLEJOHN
PUBLISHED: 23:37, 10 September 2012 | UPDATED: 08:11, 11 September 2012
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Call Me Dave will stand up in the House of Commons tomorrow and apologise to the families of the 96 Liverpool fans who died in the Hillsborough disaster in 1989.
His statement of ‘regret’ will coincide with the publication of a new report into the causes of the appalling tragedy that unfolded on the overcrowded terraces at the Lepping’s Lane End.
Let’s hope that the findings of the independent inquiry, chaired by the Bishop of Liverpool, James Jones, will finally put the matter to rest.

Tragedy: 96 Liverpool fans died in the Hillsborough disaster in 1989, which occurred during the semi-final FA Cup tie between Liverpool and Nottingham Forest
Families, friends and those who were there on the day have waited 23 long years for answers. They won’t be satisfied until someone is called to account, preferably in handcuffs.
A 1990 inquiry by Lord Justice Taylor laid the blame for the loss of life squarely at the feet of the police, but this wasn’t enough to quench the thirst for retribution.
Unless the inquiry names specific individuals and organisations it believes to be responsible, the sense of injustice will continue to fester.
Cameron’s statement will come in response to demands from campaigners. But what purpose will it serve?
Soothing words from the Prime Minister will not salve the hurt, which burns as fiercely today as it did almost a quarter of a century ago in the immediate aftermath of the disaster.
The Hillsborough campaigners want prosecutions, not platitudes.
In the event of the inquiry turning up something criminal that has remained hidden for 23 years, the law will have to take its course.
There was no need for Call Me Dave to involve himself. He should have left it to the Bishop of Liverpool, a man trusted and admired in the city.

A memorial service marks the 20th anniversary of the Hillsborough disaster. A new report is due which will shed light on the causes of the tragedy
Cameron is on a hiding to nothing. Unless he can promise prosecutions, which he can’t, he will inevitably be accused of betraying the 96.
Does he really believe that a few well-chosen words of commiseration from a Bullingdon Club Tory toff will resonate on Merseyside?
But when Cameron signalled that he intended to be the ‘heir to Blair’, he wasn’t kidding. This is exactly the kind of stunt Blair would have pulled.
After the ‘success’ of his stomach-churning ‘People’s Princess’ routine, Blair embraced empathy big time. He apologised for everything from slavery to the Irish potato famine.
Gordon Brown even tried to get in on the act, laughably, issuing a formal apology to children forcibly evacuated to Canada during World War II.

Regret: David Cameron will stand up in the House of Commons and apologise to the families of the 96 Liverpool fans who died in the disaster
Now Dave’s picked up the bouncing ball of cost-free compassion. He’s already said sorry for Bloody Sunday, which happened when he was five.
You might have thought that an inquiry which lasted 12 years and cost British taxpayers the thick end of £200 million was apology enough.
Mind you, if Blair can apologise for the treatment of the Aborigines by the early English settlers in Australia, Cameron has a smorgasbord of contrition from which to choose.
The Peterloo massacre, the Highland Clearances, the Tolpuddle Martyrs.
Go for it, Dave.
Contrary to what Elton John would have you believe, in the wonderful world of Westminster, sorry seems to be the easiest word.
Politicians have no problem apologising for something horrible that occurred before they came to office — or, in some cases, before they were even born — and for which they can’t be blamed.
It’s just a pity Cameron can’t be bothered to apologise for some of the things for which he is responsible: failing to win a majority at the last election; appointing Vince Cable as Business Secretary; breaking his promises on a European referendum and yuman rites. And that’s just for starters.
Still, maybe there’s method in his madness. This could be a cynical ploy to distance himself from Boris Johnson, who is making no secret of his determination to replace Cameron as Conservative leader and Prime Minister.
You may recall that when Boris was combining the job of editing The Spectator with being a Tory MP, he was ordered to Liverpool by Michael Howard to apologise in person for an editorial accusing the city of wallowing in self-pity and victim status.
Perhaps Dave believes that by wringing his hands over Hillsborough he can put ‘clear blue water’ between himself and Boris.
In which case, I fear he may be horribly mistaken.
The only clear blue water they have for Old Etonian Conservative politicians in Liverpool is in the middle of the Mersey.


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Posted by: thaiga
« on: October 09, 2012, 07:07:23 PM »

BBC "Sorry" About Jimmy Savile Abuse. That's All Right Then!

BBC chief says sorry to victims of alleged sex abuse by Savile

 THE BBC director-general has apologised to victims of Jimmy Savile's alleged sex abuse and pledged that the corporation will hold its own inquiry following a police probe.

George Entwistle, who started in his new role only last month, spoke of deep regret about the ordeals of the women involved in the "awful allegations", and said there would be a "comprehensive examination" of what went on.

The late radio and TV presenter has been accused by a growing number of women of sexual abuse over a number of years.

He spoke out after Prime Minister David Cameron called for the "truly shocking" allegations to be fully investigated.

The BBC said last week it would work with the police in examining the claims, and Mr Entwistle wrote to staff on Friday urging them to come forward with information.

Speaking on BBC Radio 4's 'Today' programme yesterday, he said: "These are awful allegations that have been made, and they are criminal allegations.

"The first thing I want to say is that the women involved here have gone through something awful . . . and I would like to apologise on behalf of the organisation to each and every one of them.

"When the police have finished everything they have to do, and when they give me an assurance that there is no danger of us in any way compromising an investigation, I will take it further and ensure that any outstanding questions are answered properly."

A growing number of women have come forward to claim they were either abused -- many of them while under-age -- or that they saw others who were victims.

Several former colleagues have told how they were aware of rumours about the former 'Top Of The Pops' presenter.

Unease about the claims has led to a number of memorials to the star being removed. It was announced yesterday that an inscription on a wall of Leeds Civic Hall in recognition of his charity work will be taken down.

A street sign in Scarborough, North Yorkshire, was also taken away in the past few days.

Peculiar

Mr Entwistle said any BBC inquiry would take place after the police had conducted their investigations.

He said: "At the heart of what went on are a series of criminal allegations about the behaviour of Sir Jimmy Savile.

"The way to deal with those is to make sure that the police, who are the only properly constituted authority for dealing with criminal investigations, are allowed to make the examinations and inquiries they need to make."

Any BBC probe, he added, would examine the "broad question of what was going on and whether anybody around Jimmy Savile knew what was going on".

Mr Entwistle said Savile was widely regarded as a "bit peculiar", but he said if anyone had been directly aware of the allegations they should have spoken up.

"It does seem to me that if people knew, they'd seen something themselves or been told something directly or had evidence of his behaviour, then there was an enormous obligation on them to have done something about it."

He said the BBC's child protection policy would "absolutely stop" access for people in Savile's position to under-18s on BBC premises, a reference to suggestions that the former Radio 1 presenter invited young girls to his dressing room.

Mr Entwistle said: "It's very important that people don't think the BBC of today is anything like in character managed the way it was at the time."

Former Radio 1 DJ Liz Kershaw told over the weekend how when she joined Radio 1 in 1987 -- the year Savile left -- his behaviour was an "open secret".

And she described how she was routinely groped by another presenter while she was on the air.

Broadcaster Janet Street-Porter previously revealed that she was aware of rumours about Savile's alleged abuse of under-age girls when she worked at the BBC in the late 1980s.

TV and radio presenter Sandi Toksvig has also told how she was groped on air by a "famous individual" 30 years ago.

Ms Toksvig, who declined to name the celebrity, said when she informed other staff what had happened they thought it was funny.

The police said they were contacting all individuals who have made claims about the late presenter and should know how many victims there are some time this week.

Scotland Yard is currently considering a number of claims, including a historic rape allegation referred to Met officers by Surrey Police.

Read more + video : http://www.independent.ie/lifestyle/independent-woman/celebrity-news-gossip/bbc-chief-says-sorry-to-victims-of-alleged-sex-abuse-by-savile-3253798.html#ixzz28noXjUnw

Posted by: sicho
« on: October 03, 2012, 08:04:33 AM »

A common characteristic of paedophiles is that they see nothing wrong with what they do. They will go so far as to say that the laws protecting minors are wrong and even that the children 'ask for it'. They are so arrogantly sure that they are right that they will say so in public.

Failure to see the harm they do and to show any remorse is a common characteristic of any psychopath.
Posted by: dodgeydave
« on: October 03, 2012, 03:55:55 AM »

Sir Jimmy Saville defended paedophile pop star Gary Glitter saying 'he did nothing wrong' and calling child porn just 'dodgy films'
In a 2009 interview Savile appears to suggest Glitter was the real victim in the child porn scandal as he had only used the images for his own ‘gratification’ and had not tried to sell them on.

The forthcoming television documentary that alleges Sir Jimmy Saville sexually abused schoolgirls during the height of his fame is also set to show the late television personality defending paedophile pop star Gary Glitter.

Exposure: The Other Side of Jimmy Saville is set to show a interview in which Savile comes to the defence of Gary Glitter, who was convicted of downloading pornographic images of children as young as two in 1999. Glitter, whose real name is Paul Gadd, was later jailed for three years in 2006 for molesting two girls aged 11 and 12 in Vietnam and forced to sign the sex offenders register.

In the interview, conducted with a journalist in 2009, Savile appears to suggest that Glitter was the real victim in the child porn scandal as he had only used the images for his own ‘gratification’ and had not tried to sell them on.

In the interview Saville says: “Now Gary, all he did was take his computer into PC World to get it repaired…They went into his hard drive, saw all these dodgy pictures and told the police and the police then, 'Oh we've got a famous person ... Oh my goodness, yeah we'll have them'.

“But Gary has not sold 'em, has not tried to sell 'em, not tried to show them in public or anything like that. It were for his own gratification. Whether it was right or wrong is, of course, it's up to him as a person. But they didn't do anything wrong but they are then demonised.”

“And of course, if you ever said to that copper, what’s Gary Glitter done wrong? Well nothing really. He’s just sat at home watching these dodgy ,dodgy films. He was like that but he wasn’t public and he didn’t do anything.”

Exposure: The Other Side of Jimmy Savile, which is due to be screened on Wednesday night, will detail claims from women that the late television personality sexually abused school girls in his Rolls-Royce and at BBC Television Centre. The allegations date back to the 1970s.

ITV said the programme, presented by former detective Mark Williams-Thomas, features contributions from several women who claim that Sir Jimmy was a sexual predator who sexually assaulted them while they were under-age.

One woman alleges that she was raped by the DJ and another says she was asked to perform a sex act on him.

ITV said one of the contributors explained how she was too frightened to speak out while Sir Jimmy was alive. They said the programme will allege that the broadcaster preyed on teenagers whom he invited to appear on his TV shows.

One 14-year-old girl tells the programme how she met Sir Jimmy at a school in Surrey in 1974 and he assaulted her in his caravan which was parked in the school grounds.

Speaking to ITV’s Daybreak programme this morning, broadcaster Paul Gambaccini added to the allegations, claiming the star used his charity work and ‘imperial personality’ within show business to prevent his private life being exposed.

Gambaccini said his former Radio 1 colleague played tabloid newspapers “like a Stradivarius” in order to keep the abuse secret.

ChildLine founder Esther Rantzen, who worked for the BBC during the 1970s, told the programme that she now believes Sir Jimmy sexually abused under-age girls, after seeing the fresh evidence from their interviews.

”We all blocked our ears to the gossip…We made him into the Jimmy Savile who was untouchable, who nobody could criticise. Jim'll Fix It was for children. He was a sort of God-like figure. Everybody knew of the good that Jimmy did and what he did for children. And these children were powerless“, she said.

The BBC responded to reports that inappropriate behaviour by Sir Jimmy was an “open secret” at the corporation by saying it found no evidence of any misconduct by the broadcaster.

Roger Foster, Savile’s nephew, said his family were “disgusted and disappointed” that the allegations are being made when he is no longer around to defend himself, adding that he is concerned at the potential damage to his uncle’s charities, as well as Savile’s reputation and legacy.

”I just get so disgusted and disappointed by it. The guy hasn't been dead for a year yet and they're bringing these stories out. It could affect his legacy, his charity work, everything. I'm very sad and disgusted”, he said.

”I just don't understand the motives behind this. I just think it's very, very sad you can say these things after someone's died and the law says you can't defend yourself when you're dead.“

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/news/sir-jimmy-saville-defended-paedophile-pop-star-gary-glitter-saying-he-did-nothing-wrong-and-calling-child-porn-just-dodgy-films-8192715.html

Posted by: dodgeydave
« on: October 01, 2012, 02:36:46 AM »

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/news/a407160/jimmy-savile-accused-of-sexually-assaulting-girls-on-itv1-documentary.html

Jimmy Savile accused of sexually assaulting girls on ITV1 documentary


ITV1 is to air a documentary featuring claims that Jimmy Savile sexually assaulted teenage girls in the 1970s.

Several women have alleged that the TV presenter, who died last year, abused them as underage teenagers, the Radio Times reports.


The women's interviews will feature in the programme, which is due to be broadcast on October 3 as part of ITV1's 'Exposure' documentary strand.

An ITV spokesman explained that the show was still being edited and refused to comment on reports that the alleged incidents - said to range from indecency to unlawful sex - involved girls as young as 13.

Former police detective and child protection expert Mark Williams-Thomas, who hosts On the Run, conducted the investigation.

Savile's friends and family have previously insisted that he wasn't a sexual predator.

The BBC had been investigating claims for Newsnight relating to the CPS/police investigation which it was unable to substantiate. The corporation told Digital Spy it did not go ahead with the broadcast for editorial reasons.
Posted by: sicho
« on: September 30, 2012, 11:50:18 AM »

Whether you liked him or not the guy did tremendous work for charities.......RIP Sir Jim

Especially those for children? Perhaps it was a cover or he was required to do it in return for protection. No amount of charity work balances even one child abuse offence.
Posted by: nookiebear
« on: September 30, 2012, 11:09:39 AM »

Whether you liked him or not the guy did tremendous work for charities.......RIP Sir Jim
Posted by: promek
« on: August 31, 2012, 11:37:47 PM »

Thanks for reply Saf & Baby Farts
Just 4 Coyote bars in Korat... Hopefully i checking them all  : D
First stop was Osaka, because remember i have a stomach problems - eat a lot sushi at the small japanese-style shop on the coyote bar.
Posted by: Baby Farts
« on: August 30, 2012, 09:14:14 AM »

Tell the Tuk Tuk Driver -

2 Peace (You might even spot a few foreigners there, one with a huge protruding gut and another with a black bag filled with beer Chang) ;D

Osaka (Massage but a Coyote bar is to the right of it in the front)

Super Mix (Located next to Dok Mai Cafe near the Night Bazaar)

After Dark (Located behind Big C)

There is also the option of checking out one of the local expat watering holes....lots of free lancers from what I've been told.


Posted by: sicho
« on: August 30, 2012, 07:10:42 AM »

I've no idea. However, if you wander around town in the evening you will eventually stumble over a farang on his night out. Just ask, 'Where can I go to ogle disinterested young girls' and he'll probably point you in the right direction.
Posted by: promek
« on: August 30, 2012, 06:24:21 AM »

Hello every1!
Last time i come to Korat in 2009, so forget everything. But remember ill stay for fun at Coyote go-go bar a few times.
Looks like i will come to Isaan soon. Want take a bus (not directly) from BKK to Sakhon Nakhon. During travel will stay a couple days in Nakhon Ratchasima again.
So may i ask. :uhm
1. How many Coyote go-go bars in Nakhon Ratchasima at the moment? Hopefully not so much. Want back - just nostalgia...
2. If one or two may someone's post down a Coyote go-go bar name, location and direction in Thai. Easy way for print & take to tuk-tuk driver.
10x & BR.
Posted by: aaronhiscock
« on: July 06, 2011, 08:18:01 AM »

Continuing my journey through the Korat “red light scene”

Last night I visited The Pegasus Hotel (past Macro, turn right at next lights, you can’t miss it). Elevator up to 12 th. floor and hey presto, a bevy of pretty girls waiting to “pleasure you”.
The quality of girls was not quite up to Ginza standards but many pretty girls available. Slight confusion over prices. I was caught up in a conversation about discount of 200 bt before (or after!!) 9.00pm, which I didn’t quite understand. Anyway an orange juice, a large Leo and the girl of my choice came to 1850bt. I think prices for girls range from 1400-1900bt.
The room was OK – large and clean. The girl I picked was from Chang Mai - very white and very accommodating - a very nice girl.

I then sauntered over to 2 peace for my usual late night eye candy. Sorted out a liaison with a girl on her night off. Will she turn up – will she bollocks, but all part of the journey!!

Aaron
Posted by: Baby Farts
« on: July 01, 2011, 10:25:36 AM »

I forgot to mention..yes, the place around the park with the statues.  The whores have seemed to move on a side street.  It would be the first or second left...I forget...but they are now parked right in front of a short time hotel. Wander around in the area and you'll find them.   ;D
Posted by: aaronhiscock
« on: June 30, 2011, 02:59:16 PM »

Thanks for the information Baby Farts, I am out of town for a week or so. I will pay Pegasus a visit when I return. I will post my observations.

You are so right about 2 peace but great if you want a bit of late night lurking.

Aaron
Posted by: Baby Farts
« on: June 30, 2011, 09:19:34 AM »

Excellent report, Aaron.  2 peace is more like eye candy and you'll find that trying to bar fine a girl from a place like that is going to cost you some serious baht as you've already discovered.  The prices seem to be higher here compared to Nana, Soi Cowboy, etc.   99% of those girls have a Thai boyfriend...trust me..and when the venues close here in Korat, you'll find scooter boy waiting outside on a Honda wave anxious to see how much money his GF has made for him...hence.  Mang Da.  Karaoke bars are also an alternative, but prices will be high too....unless the girl really likes you.

Pegasus used to have the best looking girls in town.  That was years ago.  Go to the 12th floor and check it out.  You can also go to the Karaoke there which is located on the second floor. 
Posted by: aaronhiscock
« on: June 30, 2011, 08:44:11 AM »

Hi everyone. Continuing my journey into the unknown in downtown Korat.

My second night out:

Tried another massage parlour tonight – not sure of name, but part of the mix 2 complex (turn right at first set of traffic lights past Chaopraya Hotel and left at second set of traffic lights, follow road for maybe 2 km and on the left). Not as salubrious as Ginza, but cheap, I think, at 950bt. Selection of girls poor and not to my taste but one man’s meat…. There is the odd beauty to be had if you are patient. Picked a pretty 22 year old from Ubon who was right on the ball (so to speak!!) - soapy with nice tit rub, massage on request and the inevitable….. A very sexy girl in my opinion.

To round off a most satisfying evening drove to 2 Peaces (their spelling not mine).
To say I was astonished was an understatement. I had heard some reviews about high drinks prices and not many girls…whoa there, when was the last time the reviewers were there.
 Maybe 50 girls dancing in continuous shifts – 10 girls on stage at a time. No BS, I have never seen (Not even in Patters) so many seriously good looking girls in one place. Mammasan says they come from all over Issan to dance here. Lots of thai guys in there but no problem. Large Leo beer 120bt. Maybe lost in translation but mammasan told me a barfine was 3000bt!!! Later one of the girls told me only certain girls would go out. They will all give you their phone numbers presumably so that you can make arrangements after hours. What a pity, they don’t charge a 500bt barfine and employ girls who will go out - is the 2 peace management listening???
Be aware, action does not start here until 10.30-11.00.

All in all another good night out in Korat – I am proving that there is loads of action if you know where to look. Can’t wait for my next night out.

I want to try Pegasus? and  Pailin Square soon. Any  tips or advice on other suitable venues much appreciated

Happy mongering

Aaron
Posted by: aaronhiscock
« on: June 29, 2011, 08:54:59 AM »

Thank you for your welcome Baby Farts - look forward to further discourse.

By the way when you mention the park down the street, do you mean the areas around the lakes and statues - apologies I am new to the area and have not found my bearings yet - what time are the hookers out. I might pay a visit tonight.

 Aaron
Posted by: Baby Farts
« on: June 29, 2011, 06:27:20 AM »

Heh Heh.   Well look at it this way, Aaron, at least you don't have to shave your nuts.  Please gives us a report on your recon mission as it is always nice to hear the latest on Korat's red light district.  BTW, welcome to the forum  ;D
Posted by: aaronhiscock
« on: June 29, 2011, 06:12:01 AM »

Thanks Baby Farts,

 I rue every day since my parents named me Aaron - a tad naive I suppose on their part. The irony is that since a blowback burnt all the hair follicles on my bollocks, whilst experimenting with lighting my own farts when 15 years old, I have NO hair on my cock!!

Regarding details of service provided at Ginza, I would prefer not to divulge - just use your imagination.

Off to Korat again tonight, I will report on the trip tomorrow.

Aaron
Posted by: Baby Farts
« on: June 28, 2011, 10:30:18 AM »

Nice user name.  Ahem...In front of the Chaopraya and opposite are a load of hookers.  It resembles drive through service if you know what I mean.  Go down the street around the corner where the park is (suan rak <--means love garden) and you'll find even more.  Would you kindly explain the "good service" you received at Ginza.   ;D
Posted by: aaronhiscock
« on: June 28, 2011, 09:07:32 AM »



As a relative newcomer to Korat. I am interested in the night life around the city – with an emphasis on the red light aspects so to speak!!!
I have found that it is difficult to find reliable and up to date information on the subject so I have decide to embark on a voyage of discovery – please add your experiences and maybe we can build up a database of suitable venues.

Before I start, a couple of observations;
•   Most places cater for Thais but Falang males are always treated with respect by thai customers.
•   I have not yet found a bar with bar finable girls a la Pattaya/Bangkok
•   If a bar were to be opened, I think it would be a winner.
•   The number of views of the topic of “red light area” suggests there is real interest on the subject.

My first night;
 Ventured into the Ginza entertainment centre (opposite Klang Plaza). Very comfortable lounge area. Plenty of 5 star girls available at 1900bt – expensive but the quality of the girls was high. The girl I picked gave good service.

Afterwards I walked into the Kareoke opposite  Chaopraya Hotel. No customers and180bt for a girl to sit with you - I declined but had a beer. On the way out I asked the girls sitting outside where I could find a girl. They pointed across the street. There was a pick up full of girls waiting for customers – no kidding. The girls were on the whole unattractive and wanted 1500bt for short time. There were other girls walking up and down the street.

I will post again after my next visit. Happy hunting!!
Posted by: 3RoseVenus
« on: June 13, 2011, 10:38:46 AM »

I've heard the same thing too.  Interesting though, considering the amount of blacks who have managed to find a niche on Sukhumvit near soi Nana.  I believe stickman had an article about this on one of his weekly postings.  I've actually seen blacks being refused entry into bars.  Do that in the states and you will find yourself in court.
Posted by: gasmask
« on: June 12, 2011, 03:51:45 PM »

I am black. 75% to be exact so i know what i'm talking about. With all the japanese coming to Thailand now it's getting harder for even the white honkies to get laid. Go check out rainbow at nana plaza.

I agree, I think it's more difficult for afro negro's to get laid in Thailand than it is for white honkies because thai chicks don't really like dark skinned peoples.
Posted by: Baby Farts
« on: November 30, 2010, 12:15:31 PM »

Some western bars do have the take-aways, but they are not really employed by the bar....but hang around certain farang places as free lancers looking to make some extra dough. 

If it's the bearded clam you are looking for, I'd say just hop into any massage parlor and choose a number.  There is no need to bar fine a girl and take her back to your room as she will only pester you for the remainder of your stay.  Do your bedroom Olympics at the provided facility...

If you want to just drink and kick back, there are several bars here in Korat.

The George & Dragon
The Sports Bar
The Walrus
The Ram
Meeting Place
4X
etc...etc..

Just tell the tuk-tuk driver where you want to go.
Posted by: massimo
« on: November 28, 2010, 10:46:07 PM »

So I'm stopping off in Korat for two nights next week, will be busy all day so rather rent some hoi than go to the effort of getting it for free. :)

Are there some bars with that can supply a cold beer and ST takeaway? Am I doomed to drink in a Thai bamboo bar with the music going through a 1000 watt amp then pick up a dodgy freelancer from outside this Japanese restaurant I read of?

Can we get the names of some western ran bars up here, and what road they're located on, by any chance?

Cheers.



Posted by: Franklyb
« on: June 25, 2010, 04:30:09 PM »

Ye johnnie and that equates to 20% of a morally incorrupt upstanding community.

Laser if you read Poshkids post he sort of does sommersaults LOL, he does he does not, he even went to the point of reporting the post. LOL
Posted by: Johnnie F.
« on: June 25, 2010, 03:44:47 PM »

3,032 views, makes you realise where peoples interests lie :)

The "Korat Girls" topic has 15,599 views. There seems to be only a minority looking for the red light district and "non-commitment". ;)
Posted by: dirtydog
« on: June 25, 2010, 02:54:05 PM »

3,032 views, makes you realise where peoples interests lie :)
Posted by: Baby Farts
« on: June 25, 2010, 02:47:55 PM »

I don't know how anyone can live here for several years and not know the red light districts.


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