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sicho

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<closed> The French Restaurant - Korat
« on: April 21, 2012, 05:20:44 PM »
Some time ago, there was mention made of a restaurant by this name in the soi between Toyota and Tesco in Mitraphap Road.

Recently, some people on another forum took up the time-honoured practice of slagging off the latest for-farang establishment, if indeed the owners' target market is farangs. None of them seem to have eaten there and so they satisfy themselves with complaints that it's not open when they care to pass by on the odd occasion. Fair enough, but how about leaving a note on the restaurant door with a 'phone number and request to call about opening times? Make an opportunity to talk to the owners about the apparent problem. Isn't that better than criticising the place on a public forum?

Does anyone here know this place?
 

Offline thaiga

Re: The French Restaurant - Korat
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2012, 07:26:05 PM »
Read on another forum

Could it be Phil and Kaek A Moi" .there are a variety of small flags across the front of the place (which sits back from the road a bit)they're closed sundays  http:// -----------com/forum/index.php?topic=1896.0
Look for the X
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sicho

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Re: The French Restaurant - Korat
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2012, 07:44:41 PM »
Thanks Thaiga.

I must make a point of visiting them nest time I visit town.
 

Offline Baby Farts

Re: The French Restaurant - Korat
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2012, 08:00:31 PM »
Thaiga, do you know what "Moi" means in Thai?  :salute
 

Offline thaiga

Re: The French Restaurant - Korat
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2012, 08:07:44 PM »
Nooooooooo idea   :uhm  Ministry of interior  :evilgrin
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sicho

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Re: The French Restaurant - Korat
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2012, 04:06:41 PM »
Correcting my directions given the other day, this restaurant is down the soi just before Toyota, there is no soi between Toyota and Tesco.

I had an opportunity to visit Phil and Kaek's place today and put a bit of information on my blog about it:

http://www.grumpyexpat.com/blog/2012/04/french-restaurant-in-korat.html

Phil is a great guy. What a pity that the loud mouths had to sound off before they even met him and his wife. The restaurant is closed Thursdays. It was also closed for a few days recently because Phil and his wife needed to go to Bangkok. Expats. who know the teeniest thing about the way small Thai businesses operate would know that this happens and that they rarely advertise for how long their premises will be unoccupied.
 

Offline Baby Farts

Re: The French Restaurant - Korat
« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2012, 05:09:14 PM »
Saf, well said....this is typical of the as.sholes who try to destroy a business before it even gets its foot off the ground.....Notice too how Alfie allows the remarks on his forum.
 

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Re: The French Restaurant - Korat
« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2012, 09:30:42 PM »
Some time ago, there was mention made of a restaurant by this name in the soi between Toyota and Tesco in Mitraphap Road.

Recently, some people on another forum took up the time-honoured practice of slagging off the latest for-farang establishment, if indeed the owners' target market is farangs. None of them seem to have eaten there and so they satisfy themselves with complaints that it's not open when they care to pass by on the odd occasion. Fair enough, but how about leaving a note on the restaurant door with a 'phone number and request to call about opening times? Make an opportunity to talk to the owners about the apparent problem. Isn't that better than criticising the place on a public forum?

Does anyone here know this place?

I agree totally, and thought the same as i read the comments. It's hardly surprising as most of the posts there are coming from completely green (to Thailand) and naive (to life) people.
 

sicho

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Re: The French Restaurant - Korat
« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2012, 09:50:37 PM »
Some of these people come here, presumably for a different lifestyle, and demand exactly what they got at home, but with prices a fraction of what they paid back there. There's little enough for them to do in Korat except booze themselves into oblivion and very few farang places that they could take their wives then, when something decent turns up, they play hangman and try to ruin it.

'Thank God I'm a country boy' - as opposed to a Country Member.
 

Online Taman Tun

Re: The French Restaurant - Korat
« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2012, 11:31:04 PM »
Saf, we will definitely give it a try next week.  I hope they have some decent reds on the menu.  I would just like to bore you all with an absolutely completely true story about French Restaurants.  Last year I was toiling in the wastelands of Butterworth surrounded by the Malaysian Smelting Corporation, container ports and other industrial clag.  Decent eateries were not to be found.  One evening whilst driving home from work I fantasised about turning a bend and finding a nice French Restaurant in front of me.  No such luck.  As I was parking in the apartment a lady I had never seen before parked next to me.  She was a Chinese lady and introduced herself as Daisy.  We went up in the lift together and discovered that we were in adjacent apartments.  I went indoors and prepared for a boring evening.  Ten minutes later the doorbell rang and it was Daisy.  She said to me "Please come and eat with us, my husband, Lucien, is a wonderful chef".  And so it proved to be. Lucien, from Paris, was just incredible and had lots of bottles of red to wash things down.  I had never seen Lucien and Daisy before because they had just returned from a work trip to the oil patch in Angola.  So  my dream came true, I did get to eat incredible French food that night.
We are masters of the unsaid words, but slaves of those we let slip out. Churchill
 

sicho

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Re: The French Restaurant - Korat
« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2012, 07:44:35 AM »
A nice turn on the old warning 'be careful what you wish for .........'

Let us know how you get on at Phil's place.

Come out to PTC to see us too if you get chance:

http://www.grumpyexpat.com/blog/2011/05/top-cafe-pak-thong-chai-korat.html

Closed on Mondays.  ;) There's usually a gathering of English speaking pensions a couple of days each week.  :cheers
 

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Re: The French Restaurant - Korat
« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2012, 08:01:21 PM »
For sure Saf, we will try and get out there.
We are masters of the unsaid words, but slaves of those we let slip out. Churchill
 

sicho

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Re: The French Restaurant - Korat
« Reply #12 on: May 01, 2012, 09:10:44 PM »
Here's some gratuitous advice for people who want to run a restaurant in Korat that appeared on another forum. It's promoted as 'marketing' advice but in fact it's about promotion. True marketing goes much further into a business than that, beginning with questions such as 'What customers do we want here and what do they want to buy?' However much you think you know about marketing or that part of it known as 'advertising' or 'promotion', you first start by learning about the local market. Then, you don't destroy your advice by saying that you have never been to the business in question and rudely state that the business isn't doing well.

Here it is:

Well along with real estate I did marketing too back in Canada and did quite well, it's clear just in this thread why things aren't going so well. So heres a plan if the owners end up reading it.

First, the obvious things like to keep a strict schedule and follow it, better sign at the store. (Edit: What's wrong with the sign? Have you seen it?)

For marketing:

1) Get a website, with a thai and english menu, pictures of dishes's and updates for the restaurant. Then set up an email list, this will make a big difference for recurring customers. Offer them a %10-20 discount for joining coupon then once a week email them with valuable content. This could be anything from a french recipe, happy hour times, discount for friday, whatever - Build a relationship with your customer's. (Edit: An easy cop out for advertising men is to tell clients to offer discounts. They don't have to fund the loss of margin. It may be good advice but don't put the cart before the horse. Discount days suggest that you are overpriced on other days)

2) Get a Facebook fan page, put the link on your website, and you could even put a little spot on your menu: "Loved the food? Like us on Facebook" Of course a little more thought into a catchy sentence. This is another good way for foreigners to spread word of mouth to other friends.

3) Advertising here is dirt cheap, make a good audio file commercial and get it on local Thai radio. Now I havn't done market research here, but it seems like Thais are more and more liking foreign food. (edit: No, you haven't done any research here, that's clear. It's not that simple)

4) Contact local newspaper with a great story of how you and your wife came to Thailand and have a passion for food, etc etc Make it personal so people can relate and want to come and join you. Can put this in english and thai newspaper.

5) Go on every local forum and advertise, get people to know you. Post updates on your restaurant, new items, close and open times, etc, again important to build a relationship with your customers.

6) Get your name in the customer's household. Have a great pancake/sauce w/e recipe? (Edit: What?) Make it into a keepable product, package it, put a logo on it and sell it, you now have your brand/restaurant within the house, profit advertising.

These are only a few things of many to market yourself.

I haven't been to the restaurant, and I don't know the quality of food and service, but those will be the biggest points for returning customers.

Good luck,


How bloody arrogant!
 

Offline thaiga

Re: The French Restaurant - Korat
« Reply #13 on: May 01, 2012, 11:11:26 PM »


Very rude indeed. The people in question have not activated their acc yet not that i blame them.


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sicho

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Re: The French Restaurant - Korat
« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2012, 07:25:23 AM »
Neither do I. They have taken an unwarranted pasting already so contributing would probably bring more crap in their direction.
 

Offline audi

Re: The French Restaurant - Korat
« Reply #15 on: May 02, 2012, 09:53:12 AM »
Enjoyed a visit there  last night .Very pleasant couple and food was excellent .
 

sicho

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Re: The French Restaurant - Korat
« Reply #16 on: May 02, 2012, 12:02:25 PM »
Thanks for the feed back, audi.
 

sicho

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Re: The French Restaurant - Korat
« Reply #17 on: May 03, 2012, 02:04:16 PM »
Here's another piece of gratuitous snide from elsewhere:

Considering their application was approved two weeks ago and still not a single word then I would say " not very well ", wouldnt you Derek? lol

After all the negative remarks already, I wouldn't be surprised if Phil doesn't want to post.

They just can't help themselves, can they? No wonder that Korat city is such a gastronomic desert for Western palates.
 

Offline Baby Farts

Re: The French Restaurant - Korat
« Reply #18 on: May 03, 2012, 09:10:30 PM »
How nice of them to attempt to destroy another new business in Korat.  I'll bet all these experts have never owned a restaurant, let alone even a clue how to open and run one.  The only thing these whiners would know how to open is a beer chang at a restaurant, sit there all day, drinking, and never order any food.  Well, some do.  Have you ever noticed that?  Then again having an exquisite dining experiencing at a new French restaurant is probably too out of reach for some of them to appreciate.
They'd rather eat the same old boring food everyday....fish and chips, sandwiches, burgers, etc,  And FFS how many French restaurants are there in Korat?  Instead of celebrating, they start getting out the cross, hammer, and nails and prepare for another crucifixion.   
 

Offline Johnnie F.

Re: The French Restaurant - Korat
« Reply #19 on: May 03, 2012, 09:45:20 PM »
You should also see some positive in their complaining loudly on the internet: the chances are low that they spoil your dinner there, if they don't like the place and therefore don't frequent it! :)
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Offline takeitor

Re: The French Restaurant - Korat
« Reply #20 on: May 03, 2012, 09:55:54 PM »
...another small positive is that at least every westerner in Korat now knows where it is - I would never have known without the whingers, bless their cotton socks.  I am planning to visit next week - Thursdays sound good!   ;)
 

sicho

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Re: The French Restaurant - Korat
« Reply #21 on: May 03, 2012, 10:13:30 PM »
...another small positive is that at least every westerner in Korat now knows where it is - I would never have known without the whingers, bless their cotton socks.  I am planning to visit next week - Thursdays sound good!   ;)

Thursday is their rest day!  ;)
 

Offline takeitor

Re: The French Restaurant - Korat
« Reply #22 on: May 04, 2012, 10:24:11 AM »
darn it!  In that case I have to say that the service would probably have been extremely poor, the food would almost certainly have been sub-standard and that no-one else should go there on the basis of my visit that would have been on Thursday except that they are shut.....or maybe I'll go on Friday ;D
 

Offline thaiga

Re: The French Restaurant - Korat
« Reply #23 on: May 04, 2012, 10:42:08 AM »
Found this link gives good info about the place.

http://www.grumpyexpat.com/blog/2012/04/french-restaurant-in-korat.html

Dont ave frogs legs cause they kick the peas of the plate :lol
Anyone who goes to a psychiatrist should have his head examined.
 

sicho

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Re: The French Restaurant - Korat
« Reply #24 on: May 04, 2012, 11:05:54 AM »
darn it!  In that case I have to say that the service would probably have been extremely poor, the food would almost certainly have been sub-standard and that no-one else should go there on the basis of my visit that would have been on Thursday except that they are shut.....or maybe I'll go on Friday ;D

You're getting the idea! It's the same rule for most farang places in Korat - don't go there but slag it off on another forum. If you do go there, complain that it's not up to The Ritz's standards.
 

sicho

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Re: The French Restaurant - Korat
« Reply #25 on: May 04, 2012, 11:09:24 AM »
Found this link gives good info about the place.

http://www.grumpyexpat.com/blog/2012/04/french-restaurant-in-korat.html

Dont ave frogs legs cause they kick the peas of the plate :lol


Thaiga, check out my signature and the link in my post of 23 April!     ()
 

Offline thaiga

Re: The French Restaurant - Korat
« Reply #26 on: May 04, 2012, 11:51:39 AM »


I missed that link on   http://www.grumpyexpat.com.  about the french restaurant in korat that does excellent food :evilgrin
Anyone who goes to a psychiatrist should have his head examined.
 

sicho

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Re: The French Restaurant - Korat
« Reply #27 on: May 04, 2012, 01:05:02 PM »

I missed that link on   http://www.grumpyexpat.com.  about the french restaurant in korat that does excellent food :evilgrin


You mean this one?   ;D

 

Offline Baby Farts

Re: The French Restaurant - Korat
« Reply #28 on: May 04, 2012, 01:29:29 PM »
Saf, you're going to love this latest post from another user who said he tried to help them by informing them there was a forum for local expats.  Notice he says "forum," not "forums." 

OK. I helped them apply for membership here yesterday. They had no idea there was a forum for local expats.

We all know which forum he's referring to.  And he claims this was his way of.....get this now...."Helping them."  That forum has sure done a lot of help for them, haven't they?  Anyway this particular user's latest post:

I tried to help. But you can lead a horse to water. up to him if he drinks.

I kind of got the feeling they thought I was butting into their business.. Huh

Good luck to them... Embarrassed


If you were a horse would you drink from water that's dirty and polluted?
 

sicho

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Re: The French Restaurant - Korat
« Reply #29 on: May 04, 2012, 02:05:05 PM »
He told the owners about one of the local community forums and how to join it, I see. They haven't confirmed their membership so now he says that they gave the impression that he was butting in, sticking his nose into their business. Is that the one you mean?

Why would they promote their business on a forum where it has been criticised by people who haven't been there? They might get the impression that things could get worse.
 

 



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