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Bemused

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Suggestion of better content
« on: May 26, 2009, 06:56:36 PM »
Surely there must be something more important or interesting going on in Thailand or Korat than SR's moderation on his board.
 

Uncle Bill

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Suggestion of better content
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2009, 08:31:45 AM »
Surely there must be something more important or interesting going on in Thailand or Korat than SR's moderation on his board.

Certainly you can read a lot of that on all those other boards already. What I like about this board is that here you can post and read the stuff that the other boards don't allow for reasons only their admins can understand.  ;)

If you'd only write on this board the same as on all the other boards it were probably as little worth reading.

But I trust the admin here not to keep you from posting some of this more important or interesting. You can post it on all the boards. In addition to those here people can post and read what you personally might find less important and interesting. Of course you don't have too!

Might be interesting to read what constructive ideas you have!  ;)
 

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Re: Suggestion of better content
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2009, 09:22:14 AM »
Surely there must be something more important or interesting going on in Thailand or Korat than . . .

Isn't that just the kind of remark that usually erupts into fighting on other boards? If you don't like what others post just do better instead of complaining about their interests not fully coinciding with yours.

What would you have said, if the content of this board were just the same as on the other boards?

Speech is a tool of action. Usually people say something not just to blabber nonsense but expecting reaction, especially change: it's called criticism. Not everybody is prone to criticism.

Now you criticized something, probably expecting a reaction. You've been answered: self is the man! It's your turn to be! Nobody says here: "He's a troll! He must be banned! His posts must get deleted! Speak up! Your criticism is wanted; it just shouldn't be destructive only.

We don't want to be lethargic, nagging only. We're waiting for the inspiration.  ;D

Can you give us the inspiration?

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Less bemused

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Re: Suggestion for better content
« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2009, 11:49:41 AM »
I trust the admin here not to keep you from posting some of this more important or interesting. You can post it on all the boards. In addition to those here people can post and read what you personally might find less important and interesting. Of course you don't have too! Might be interesting to read what constructive ideas you have!  ;)

Now you criticized something, probably expecting a reaction. You've been answered: self is the man! It's your turn to be! Nobody says here: "He's a troll! He must be banned! His posts must get deleted! Speak up! Your criticism is wanted; it just shouldn't be destructive only.

We don't want to be lethargic, nagging only. We're waiting for the inspiration.  ;D

Can you give us the inspiration?

kf(admin)

To clarify what I meant earlier. I'm not against criticism of SR's moderation policies in general. What I meant was that on this board citicism of SR seems to be the main topic, almost like a default topic. Nothing interesting to write? No problem,, let's have a pop at SR again, even though he hasn't been heavy handed for a while. Personally I think he has the balance right at the moment.

When I posted, I didn't post with the purpose of getting a reaction, though of course, with every action there is a reaction. I posted to show my reaction to yet more of the same-old-same-old (same-same' in Thai speak) anti-SR drivel (sorry, can't think of another word and drivel is sure to get an over reaction).

Uncles Bill's reaction: 'Of course you don't have too!' is the kind of reaction that would inflame a situation on KF, lighting a spark or fanning the flames. Somehow I don't think that will happen here.

As for constructive ideas or inspiration, I don't have any today - fresh out. But if I find some later, I'll let you know - but don't hold your breath. 
 

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Re: Suggestion of better content
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2009, 01:24:27 PM »
Did you ever watch children getting hurt? What are they doing to relieve the pain? - They cry! When I see children get hurt and I cannot help them I let them cry. It's a natural mechanism to relieve pain. Maybe there should be thoughts about not causing pain.  ;)
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Uncle Bill

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Re: Suggestion for better content
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2009, 02:20:36 PM »
To clarify what I meant earlier. I'm not against criticism of SR's moderation policies in general. What I meant was that on this board citicism of SR seems to be the main topic, almost like a default topic. Nothing interesting to write? No problem,, let's have a pop at SR again, even though he hasn't been heavy handed for a while. Personally I think he has the balance right at the moment.

When I posted, I didn't post with the purpose of getting a reaction, though of course, with every action there is a reaction. I posted to show my reaction to yet more of the same-old-same-old (same-same' in Thai speak) anti-SR drivel (sorry, can't think of another word and drivel is sure to get an over reaction).

Uncles Bill's reaction: 'Of course you don't have too!' is the kind of reaction that would inflame a situation on KF, lighting a spark or fanning the flames. Somehow I don't think that will happen here.

As for constructive ideas or inspiration, I don't have any today - fresh out. But if I find some later, I'll let you know - but don't hold your breath.

You're sooo right: why discuss about Capital Punishment when nobody got hung yesterday? - We can let that wait until after the next few innocents got hung.  :'(

Ever heard of 'creating awareness'?  ;)
 

airbag

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Re: Suggestion for better content
« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2009, 11:38:37 AM »
What I meant was that on this board citicism of SR seems to be the main topic, almost like a default topic. Nothing interesting to write? No problem,, let's have a pop at SR again, even though he hasn't been heavy handed for a while.

Subcultures are the product of "real society". Why not discuss about the mechanisms of that "real society", how it creates its subcultures, what went wrong?

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Mused

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Re: Suggestion for better content
« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2009, 02:36:03 PM »
Subcultures are the product of "real society". Why not discuss about the mechanisms of that "real society", how it creates its subcultures, what went wrong?

airbag

Why don't you then? It sounds more interesting than repeating the same old stuff about SR over and over again.


You're sooo right: why discuss about Capital Punishment when nobody got hung yesterday? - We can let that wait until after the next few innocents got hung.  :'(

Ever heard of 'creating awareness'?  ;)

Capital punishment? Overdramatic would be an understatement. He's running his board as best he sees fit. You or I might not like the decisions he has made but it's his right to make them, the same as Koratfart makes on this board. What about poor old krisbarteo? A member on here for only 69 seconds then banned! Why? For the benefit of the board. Koratfarts decision. Fair enough. The same decisions SR makes. You don't have to like it. Debate it - sure. Complain - sure. But go over the same ground repetitively? Like I said, there must be more interesting or important things to discuss - like how society creates its subcultures.  :D
 

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Re: Suggestion for better content
« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2009, 05:48:52 PM »
Subcultures are the product of "real society". Why not discuss about the mechanisms of that "real society", how it creates its subcultures, what went wrong?

airbag

Why don't you then? It sounds more interesting than repeating the same old stuff about SR over and over again.

Isn' that exactly to the point what we've been doing? The only who seems to associate our discussion with a certain SR seems to be you. We wouldn't even go as far associating our discussion with "RS2000".  ;D
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Muse

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Re: Suggestion of better content
« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2009, 08:53:51 PM »
Perhaps you forgot to read this thread:
Moderation vs. Judgement Call (Capital Punishment of Virtual Communities)
« on: May 25, 2009, 01:23:50 AM »

If there is an argument, there are almost always 2 sides (at least) so any kind of moderation action is going to leave someone (if not everyone) unhappy.  A problem arises when people think I am being one-sided because they are not aware of communication I may be having with the other parties.  We had an example of this recently.  I am accused of favoritism when it is simply not the case.  All parties have offending posts deleted and similar warnings if necessary.  For dignity of the individuals, I prefer to do this one-2-one and in private.

However, you are also right that sometimes I do have to make a judgement call.

If there is an argument, it should be "argumented", that is discussion. Only it shouldn't turn into a fight with death threats or the like.

What's the difference between moderation and a "judgement call"? IMO moderation should be applied to achieve reconcilliation and prevent excesses. And what is a "judgement call"? Is it the suppression of communication, censorship and application of the power to authoritatively exclude members of a community, to ban, to exercise the capital punishment of virtual communities::)

A thread started on 25 May about a comment made by SR on 12 March. The OP asks this question: "What's the difference between moderation and a "judgement call"?
Maybe English isn't your first language but a judgment call is simply a decision. That decision might result in a ban or deleting a post or thread or no action at all. It's a decision. Nothing more.

But back to the point, the topic of the thread is SR's moderation of his board. The first reply to the OP was from Fartie:
If he only makes a judgement call - then who is the hangman?  ??? 
Who is he? SR again.

Like I said, same same.
 

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Re: Suggestion of better content
« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2009, 09:22:26 PM »
But back to the point, the topic of the thread is SR's moderation of his board. The first reply to the OP was from Fartie:
If he only makes a judgement call - then who is the hangman?  ??? 
Who is he? SR again.

Like I said, same same.


Valid Question: "who is the hangman?" since a judgement call is only about making a decision what to do, it doesn't imply at all that somebody should to be "eliminated". What does it have to do with the person you keep associating with that question all the time? Please don't hesitate to speak up!  ;D
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Lung Jim

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Re: Suggestion of better content
« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2009, 10:04:29 PM »
Like I said, same same.

Why don't you say something else?  ;D
 

Mu7

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Re: Suggestion of better content
« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2009, 10:20:12 PM »
OK Jim  :D

So Fartie, who is the hangman? If you're not talking about SR, who are you talking about?

And explain what you mean by hangman, capital punishment, and eliminated. No physical hanging or killing going on in Korat as far as I know so you must mean metaphorically – being banned from a forum. If that’s not what you mean, please enlighten us. 
 

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Re: Suggestion of better content
« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2009, 11:13:15 PM »
The hangman is always the one with the blood on his hands, the "eliminator', the one who cannot handle matters in a civilized  and not harmful manner.

Isn't it our target to get our lives in Korat arranged? The internet made a virtual life besides the physical life possible. Should we apply different standards in virtual life? Our virtual lives are as closely connected to our mental being as our physical life is connected to the brain. If we suffer damages in our mental being by insensitive handling of virtual communities we'll get not less sick as from a physical injury.

Arranging our virtual life in accordance with our physical life will make our expat community work better.

Enough for tonight.
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Mitraparp Monkey

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Re: Suggestion of better content
« Reply #14 on: May 29, 2009, 11:48:05 AM »
I keep looking up this thread expecting "Suggestion of better content". All I can read is a guy complaining about not being interested in other's posts, but not offering any better.

And to find a reason for his nagging he reaches out very far to interpret something into what is said here that nobody besides him can see.

Is it possible to get to the point of his posting? I don't want to call it just nonsense without having understood what his point is. Maybe I can be helped by somebody who does understand?  :(
 

Dr_Pat_Pong

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Re: Suggestion of better content
« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2009, 03:06:25 AM »
Tell you what guys, what about if I unban you all and let you back on our lovely thaivisa, the biggest and bestest forum in the world, how does that sound?
 

 



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