Stop at slandering, please!

[sicho]

Do you mean that by cc'ing the email, the sender may be guilty of defamation? And that if one of the cc recipients admits to showing a copy to a third person he may also be guilty of defamation?

[Johnnie F.]

Do you mean that by cc'ing the email, the sender may be guilty of defamation? And that if one of the cc recipients admits to showing a copy to a third person he may also be guilty of defamation?

Just that, but it depends upon the content of that email. Generally it can be said that it is everybody's duty in society to protect everybody else's confidentiality right. CC'ing the email to other non-involved persons might already be an intrusion into the rights of the person the email is originally directed at. And if you're CC'ing an email to somebody else you fully take responsibility of what that other person might do with it. That third person showing it to other people can constitute defamation as well. Responsible are then the person who CC'ed it and the person who abused the confidentiality and showed it to others.

[sicho]

Do you mean that by cc'ing the email, the sender may be guilty of defamation? And that if one of the cc recipients admits to showing a copy to a third person he may also be guilty of defamation?

Just that, but it depends upon the content of that email. Generally it can be said that it is everybody's duty in society to protect everybody else's confidentiality right. CC'ing the email to other non-involved persons might already be an intrusion into the rights of the person the email is originally directed at. And if you're CC'ing an email to somebody else you fully take responsibility of what that other person might do with it. That third person showing it to other people can constitute defamation as well. Responsible are then the person who CC'ed it and the person who abused the confidentiality and showed it to others.

Very, very interesting JF. Thank you. You are clearly expert in matter legal.

Now, it would seem equitable, I think, that if someone sent an email that defamed the addressee and also threatened him and copied it to several other people, then he would have no case or cause for complaint if the recipient then published that same email. The recipient would be merely informing others of what was done to him and ensuring that the copies that were already distributed by the sender and his friends had not been doctored in any way. But this is Thailand so does this argument hold up?

Also, if someone in an email admits, for example, to receiving and using mischievously computer data illegally obtained (I think that you are aware of the provisions of the Computer Crimes Act), can that information be published?

[Johnnie F.]

If it is of public interest like solid evidence for a public warning that there is a hacker about who enters other peoples' accounts on forums, email etc. illegally and with the intention of abuse, definitely yes! Otherwise people might not believe you the necessity to change their passwords.

[poshkid]

Sicho..you seem a nice bloke with a genuine grievance but let it rest on the forum and deal withit legally.
Take a cue from Frankie who has opted to move on..This is at best tedious and at its worst it encourages the
real Sycho,under his various guise to continue his dreadful and malicious rant against the world. These guys
drive people away from forums and thats a fact

[jamesmartin]

Sicho I tend to agree with Poshkid sometimes its best to move on, or do what has to be done.

Then We in Korat,can all move on business as normal.

[Franklyb]

Poshkid does your real name rhyme with Mat

By the way James martin who are you, your using my names.

[sicho]

Sicho I tend to agree with Poshkid sometimes its best to move on, or do what has to be done.

Then We in Korat,can all move on business as normal.

A nice sentiment, Ajax, but most have tried that course of action. Sadly the other party is still doing that of which he accuses others. If he stopped, so would others. And, by the way, he's the only law breaker in all of this (apart from his little helper, of course).

[poshkid]

Give it up Sicho or become the real deal..nobody wants to listen to this.....

[Franklyb]

Give it up Sicho or become the real deal..nobody wants to listen to this.....

Posh kid whos real name rhymes with mat, cat, rat. You have just become a member of this good forum though you come to what participate, have a go or defend, come come now relieve your reason for joining.

Did it really take you 15 mins to post that short post ::)was the spell check not working

Sicho..you seem a nice bloke with a genuine grievance but let it rest on the forum and deal withit legally.
Take a cue from Frankie who has opted to move on..This is at best tedious and at its worst it encourages the
real Sycho,under his various guise to continue his dreadful and malicious rant against the world. These guys
drive people away from forums and thats a fact

[/b]

Seems a bit of a strange statement there poshkid drives people away from posting though you come and join and POST

[sicho]

Apologies to Ajax. I have received an email to say that he is not jamesmartin. He doesn't post here but reads.

[dirtydog]

See sicko, all over this forum has posts of you jumping to unfounded conclusions, sometimes if you don't actually know something it is better to STFU

[sicho]

Give it up Sicho or become the real deal..nobody wants to listen to this.....

Patience my boy, patience. Surely you can you wait a little longer. I'll email you when something kicks off to relieve you of the tedium of listening to the written word - a remarkable trick I might say. 

[sicho]

See sicko, all over this forum has posts of you jumping to unfounded conclusions, sometimes if you don't actually know something it is better to STFU

You may be right about that from time to time but a little test or fishing trip occasionally does no harm. If you knew Korat a little you might understand more about this thread.

Any road up, me old cobber, you stop slagging off Koratian Farang and I might take more notice of the sensible stuff that you might have to say one day.   

[travel_bugnut]

Just wondering if any falangs in Thailand have yet been arrested of this ?
Or banned to entry at immigrations?
ref: defamation

other than this stick dude...

[sicho]

Just wondering if any falangs in Thailand have yet been arrested of this ?
Or banned to entry at immigrations?
ref: defamation

other than this stick dude...

Ahha! Now we see behind the mask! 

[Mitraparp Monkey]

Just wondering if any falangs in Thailand have yet been arrested of this ?
Or banned to entry at immigrations?
ref: defamation

other than this stick dude...

O yes, not long ago an Aussie was arrested on lese majeste charges and put in jail, then pardoned and deported. He cannot come in anymore. He talked about the crown prince's personal affairs in a book.

[Johnnie F.]

O yes, not long ago an Aussie was arrested on lese majeste charges and put in jail, then pardoned and deported. He cannot come in anymore. He talked about the crown prince's personal affairs in a book.

Most notable about that case was that it took them about three years before they arrested him. So any defamers of the royal family might still have to expect an arrest in years.

[Baby Farts]

Wasn't there one person here who posted links to a book that is banned in Thailand? 

[Franklyb]

BF sounding like my wife now before before before.

[sicho]

O yes, not long ago an Aussie was arrested on lese majeste charges and put in jail, then pardoned and deported. He cannot come in anymore. He talked about the crown prince's personal affairs in a book.

Most notable about that case was that it took them about three years before they arrested him. So any defamers of the royal family might still have to expect an arrest in years.

I remember that. So, someone who guilty of that crime should not assume he's got away with it just because he's not arrested swiftly after it comes to the attention of the authorities.

[travel_bugnut]

I was wondering if any were arrested for   defamation against other than a royal member.

Iv have excluded any sort of LM in the question

[Johnnie F.]

I think I've heard of foreign journalists before getting accused of defamation when they wrote about influential persons from Thai politics. But I don't know of convictions.

[travel_bugnut]

Just wondering if any falangs in Thailand have yet been arrested of this ?
Or banned to entry at immigrations?
ref: defamation

other than this stick dude...

Ahha! Now we see behind the mask! 

Sir once again your ignorance shines in your favor..I asked a simple question your reply seemed quiet odd as most of your postings ,but again sir I beg of you too please understand I joined this forum and one other just to gain information of Khorat and nothing more.
One would hope this forum would not have to put up with such ignorance you so commonly display

[travel_bugnut]

mr Johniee
Its just starting too appear many outsiders are being arrested for various crimes upon arrive to Thailand.CNN has been displaying such and this is what brought me to this sort of question.

[dirtydog]

The Lese Majeste laws are a lot stronger than the defamation laws, the sad thing about the lm laws is that any Thai national can file a case against anyone, they may completely have missunderstood something you have said, file charges, you will then be locked up till you pay bail, then you could be tied up with a court case for a year or 2, so some subjects just aint worth the risk of talking about or discussing.

[Franklyb]

Possibly that is what the bugnut wants us to do, bugnut go searching yourself, sure you will find something even if its not there.

Good luck in posting around Thailand you never heard of Google search it reveals a lot.

Bugnut up Thaksin what a man giving the PAD boys a good slapping now i see.