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Re: Sir Jimmy Saville passes away
« Reply #30 on: December 07, 2012, 12:30:46 PM »

'Damaging and totally untrue': Max Clifford speaks out against allegations after his arrest in Jimmy Savile sex abuse investigation

69-year-old was held at 7.40am and taken to a central London police station



He once said he loved being “at the centre of everything and being in control”. Britain's best-known publicist Max Clifford secured half of his stated aim at 7.40am today when he was arrested by police investigating claims of historical sex abuse.

Mr Clifford, 69, the fabled master spinner and friend to the stars, was arrested at his Surrey home on suspicion of "sexual offences" and questioned at a central London police station, before being released on bail tonight.

He became the fifth man to be arrested by officers of Operation Yewtree following the avalanche of allegations since the outing of Jimmy Savile as a predatory paedophile in a television documentary in October.

Mr Clifford, whose arrest is understood not to be directly linked with Savile, said last night that the allegation dated back to 1977. Standing outside the police station, he said in a short statement that the claims were "damaging and totally untrue", adding they were "very distressing for myself, my wife, my family and loved ones".

Scotland Yard declined to give further details about the nature of the allegations today, but Mr Clifford had already been centre stage in the saga. He said last month that he had been contacted by more than a dozen major stars and managers who were concerned about the growing scandal and had asked him to "keep them in the picture".

"It is a situation which could easily turn into a witch-hunt, a lot of big stars are frightened," he said during a round of media interviews. "Where is it going to end?" he asked.

Asked whether he was "compromising himself" by acting for people who may have been involved in unwitting underage sex, he said: "It's very simple – I am very close friends with a lot of these people and have been for 40 to 50 years. They know I'm in the middle of the media world, so I'm the first person that they turn to, not just on this subject but lots of subjects."

The arrest marked a stunning development for a man who has been the architect of tabloid "kiss-and-tells" involving major public figures for decades. He was catapulted into the big time after The Sun ran the headline "Freddie Starr ate My Hamster" with his permission – even though the comedian has always denied the allegation. He later told the Leveson Inquiry that he had recognised it would be great publicity for Starr as he embarked on a new tour.

He has since had his fingerprints on numerous classic tabloid front-page stories involving David Beckham, David Mellor, Jude Law and Sven-Goran Eriksson. He has also been caught on camera talking about how he successfully suppressed scandals.

In an old video that only came to light last month, Mr Clifford spoke of how he would create a "false image" for clients as "long as they're not interfering with little kids".

Mr Starr was one of the other five men arrested during the course of the investigation. Gary Glitter, the former radio DJ Dave Lee Travis and former television producer Wilfred De'Ath have all been arrested and subsequently bailed.

A man in his 80s from Berkshire has also been questioned as part of the police inquiry that now involves 30 officers and has cost £2m. They have all denied any wrongdoing.

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With the master publicist unavailable for comment until late last night, the task of confirming Max Clifford's arrest today fell to his solicitor, Charlotte Harris, below, a media specialist at law firm Mishcon de Reya. She represented Mr Clifford in 2010 when News International settled his phone-hacking case for £991,000. The website of Max Clifford Associates, the company he set up in the 1970s after working as a reporter and music PR, had no mention of the arrest. However, a fundraising dinner at which he was due to speak on Monday has been cancelled.

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Re: Sir Jimmy Saville passes away
« Reply #31 on: December 07, 2012, 01:28:58 PM »
What a turn up!
 

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Re: Sir Jimmy Saville passes away
« Reply #32 on: December 12, 2012, 09:47:26 AM »
It's reported that the police investigation into Savile is complete. Good, soon we will find out what he was up to with Heath, Mountbatten and a few other public figures. On the other hand, these investigations never do go that far, do they?

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Re: Sir Jimmy Saville passes away
« Reply #33 on: January 11, 2013, 08:04:49 PM »
I assumed that Sovile had been harassing mainly star struck underage teens. Now we find that he abused an eight year old and some poor soul in a hospice. Also, police received complaints during his fifty year career of abuse but ignored them. Time now to expose abusers in the establishment, including police officers.

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Offline Johnnie F.

Re: Sir Jimmy Saville passes away
« Reply #34 on: January 22, 2013, 09:02:38 AM »
...and his ghost will keep on haunting - children's TV:

BBC receives 216 complaints for Tweenies Jimmy Savile spoof


Tweenies character Max dressed as Jimmy Savile Max appeared wearing a wig and costume in the sketch

The BBC has received 216 complaints about an episode of The Tweenies, in which a character appeared dressed as disgraced TV presenter Jimmy Savile.

The programme, which was filmed in 2001, was shown on CBeebies before 09:00 GMT on Sunday.

In the scene, the character Max appeared in a blonde wig, wearing Savile's trademark tracksuits and using his accent and catchphrases.

Thirty-four people also contacted the BBC to comment on the programme.

A spokesperson for the BBC said the majority of the complaints were made immediately after the programme was broadcast.

Police say DJ and presenter Savile sexually abused hundreds of people during 60 years in entertainment.

Apologising for the sketch, the BBC said: "This morning CBeebies broadcast a repeat of an episode of the Tweenies, originally made in 2001, featuring a character dressed as a DJ impersonating Jimmy Savile. This programme will not be repeated and we are very sorry for any offence caused."

Media watchdog Ofcom said it was assessing whether any broadcasting rules have been broken, but was not currently investigating.

It is understood that the regulator received "tens, rather than hundreds" of complaints about the episode.

The episode featured the character Max presenting a Top Of The Pops-style programme. He was wearing a wig and used Savile's familiar catchphrase: "Now then, guys and gals."

The gaffe was picked up by fans on social networking sites such as Twitter.

Glenn Ebrey tweeted: "Dear CBeebies, I'm not sure this was a good choice of DJ to impersonate on The Tweenies today."

Kenny Senior wrote "Are BBC trying to self destruct? Max from Tweenies dressed as Jimmy Savile just now nearly chokes on my cornflakes."

A recent Metropolitan police report into allegations of sexual abuse against Savile, who died in 2011 aged 84, concluded the presenter and DJ was a "prolific, predatory sex offender" who abused more than 200 people over a 60-year period.

The Tweenies, which was a co-production between Tell-Tale Productions and the BBC was cancelled in 2003 but episodes have been repeated regularly since then.

Episodes mixed stories, song and creative activities aimed at helping children to learn through play.

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Re: Sir Jimmy Saville passes away
« Reply #35 on: January 23, 2013, 08:53:10 PM »
It's not gonna stop!

Broadcaster Stuart Hall charged with rape

Stuart Hall The presenter was arrested after attending a police station by appointment

Broadcaster Stuart Hall has been charged with one offence of rape and 14 offences of indecent assault, Lancashire Police have said.

Mr Hall, 83, of Wilmslow, Cheshire, was arrested on Tuesday after attending a police station by appointment.

The rape is alleged to have been committed in 1976 against a 22-year-old woman.

The indecent assaults are alleged to have taken place between 1967 and 1986 on 10 girls aged between nine and 16.

Mr Hall has been bailed to appear before magistrates in Preston on 7 February.

A Lancashire Police statement said: "Following consultation with the Crown Prosecution Service an 83-year-old man has this evening been charged with one offence of rape and 14 offences of indecent assault."

Mr Hall pleaded not guilty to three charges of indecent assault when he appeared at Preston Magistrates' Court earlier this month. The court referred these charges to Preston Crown Court.

The broadcaster is best known for his sports reporting on BBC Radio 5 live - as well as his work on the 1970s TV show It's A Knockout.

Mr Hall has been a familiar face and voice in British broadcasting for half a century and became an OBE in the 2012 New Year Honours for services to broadcasting and charity.

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Offline thaiga

Re: Sir Jimmy Saville passes away
« Reply #36 on: January 24, 2013, 02:27:48 PM »


Eddie Waring must be turning in his grave :-[
 

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Re: Sir Jimmy Saville passes away
« Reply #37 on: February 10, 2013, 12:16:53 AM »
Sexual abuse victim killed herself after giving evidence at choirmaster trial

Frances Andrade's body found after she gave evidence against former music teacher later convicted of indecent assault


Violinist Frances Andrade told a friend that giving evidence had felt like being 'raped all over again'.

A professional violinist killed herself after giving evidence at the trial of her former music teacher, who was found guilty of five counts of indecent assault on Friday.

Jurors in the case against Michael Brewer were not told of Frances Andrade's death until after they reached a verdict.

Brewer, 68, the former director of music at the world-renowned Chetham's school of music in Manchester, was found guilty of five charges of indecently assaulting Andrade when she was 14 and 15 and a pupil at the school.

He was cleared on three further indecent assault charges and was found not guilty of raping Andrade when she was 18. His ex-wife, Hilary Kay Brewer, also 68, was found guilty of indecently assaulting Andrade when she was 18, but found not guilty of aiding and abetting rape.

The judge warned them to expect custodial sentences.

The Guardian has learned that Andrade, 48, texted a friend three days before her death to say she felt like she had been "raped all over again" after appearing in the witness box at Manchester crown court last month to face Brewer.

The mother of four texted that she felt "fragmented". Asked by a friend if the verdict would make a difference to the way she felt. "No either is awful x," Andrade texted back.

Complaining about a robust cross-examination by Brewer's barrister, who accused her of telling "a pack of lies", she wrote sarcastically: "I'm a fantasist with the Electra complex seeking attention." The judge later said the cross-examination was proper and correct.

Andrade had not initiated the police investigation which led to the trial. Friends said she did not present herself as a "victim" and would have hated to be seen as such. They say she never wanted to give evidence against the Brewers.

Giving evidence, Brewer denied all of Andrade's allegations but admitted to an affair with a 17-year-old pupil at Chetham's in 1994. He resigned when the affair was discovered and the school said he had stepped down for "health reasons". Brewer went on to become the artistic director of the National Youth Choirs of Great Britain and has also directed the World Youth Choir. He served as an adjudicator in international competitions and in 2008 led BBC workshops for the programme Last Choir Standing.

Andrade killed herself the day after Brewer started to give evidence. In the witness box he called her a "fantasist" who was "largely living a fantasy life". The day before her death she had also been told that the judge had directed the jury to find Brewer not guilty on five of the indecent assault charges on the original indictment. The judge said those charges, which related to sexual activity by a canal in Manchester, fell outside the statute of limitations because Andrade admitted in evidence that she may have been over the age of consent at the time, which was 16.


Michael Brewer and Kay Brewer Michael Brewer and his ex-wife Kay Brewer. Photograph: Dave Thompson/PA

When the judge heard of Andrade's death, he adjourned the case for three days. After discussions with the Crown Prosecution Service and the attorney general, Dominic Grieve, he agreed to proceed with the trial. All subsequent witnesses were carefully briefed not to let slip that Andrade had died and all media were sent a reporting restriction from the attorney general's office forbidding any reporting of her death.

The jury had been told that Andrade had not initiated the police investigation which led to the trial. It was the mother of one of her violin pupils who raised the alarm in 2011, the court heard.

Andrade told the jury she had been furious at the woman's intervention but agreed to give evidence against Brewer.

"I think she felt morally obligated because she had been asked to help in the case," said Kirsten Klingels, a longtime friend of Andrade. "She had overcome many challenges in her life and was an incredibly strong person. I think she thought she was strong enough to go through this."

But her friends told the Guardian she had already tried to kill herself as the trial approached. "Fran had been understandably emotionally fragile in the runup to the trial," said Jackie Shave, another friend.

Andrade told the jury she had self-harmed all her life. "Self harming was the means by which I knew I was alive," she said in court, revealing that she gave herself "black eyes" ahead of her audition for Chetham's. Adopted as a baby, she claimed in court that she had been sexually abused by an uncle from a young age and was badly affected by the death of her adopted father when she was a girl. She never got on well with her adopted mother, she said.

Shave said that despite her difficult upbringing Andrade did not wallow in sadness and was always looking to the future, not the past. "She had so much to live for – she was a truly wonderful mother. I felt she was determined to give to her children all the love and care she so sadly was denied herself," she said.

Klingels said "She was such a joyous person who brought light into all of her lives with her acute mind and loving, caring character."

Everyone, including Brewer, agreed that Andrade had a remarkable talent for the violin.

Fiona Stephen, a friend of 30 years, said: "Fran was a phenomenal player. Even when she was a teenager she played with such depth and intensity, it was like she had lived a thousand lives."

Anne Sophie-Mutter, the German concert violinist, once said Andrade was responsible for "the most passionate violin playing I have ever heard". Another famous violinist, Victor Lieberman, said her music was "perfect in sound and expression".

Both tributes were included in the programme for Andrade's funeral, which took place in Guildford crematorium on Monday. It was packed with more than 200 mourners, guests said. Two of her children gave a tribute at the funeral, along with her husband and two friends.

Peter Cadwallader, prosecuting barrister in the Brewer trial, attended the funeral, along with Detective Constable Mark Atkinson of Greater Manchester police, who was the officer investigating the case.

Vulnerable victims giving evidence in courts are offered the opportunity to give evidence behind a screen or via video link. Andrade turned down these special measures, preferring instead to appear in open court and face Brewer.

She was a combative, confident and emotional witness. When Kate Blackwell QC, Brewer's barrister, alleged her account of being raped by the Brewers at their house was "utter fantasy", Andrade loudly replied: "Bollocks".

"You have told this jury a complete pack of lies about the visit to this house," said Blackwell.

Andrade replied: "This is why cases don't come to court. This happened."

"You spent the night lying next to two of your rapists?" asked the barrister, referring to Andrade's account of sleeping three in a bed with the Brewers after she said they had raped her.

Andrade answered: "But this happened. I felt guilty, I did not know how to get out of it.

"This is a lie," said Blackwell. "You could have left the house at any time."

Andrade replied: "You have got no idea clearly about what it is like to be raped. You have clearly no feminine understanding of what someone goes through like that. What shock your body goes through. How you almost feel you deserve it."

Judge Martin Rudland said on Thursday that Blackwell had been "perfectly proper and correct in her examination of all the witnesses in this case".

After Andrade's death the police strongly defended the decision to prosecute. Detective Chief Inspector Dave Pester, from South Manchester division, said: "This case was initially investigated by Surrey constabulary and then referred to GMP [Greater Manchester police], at which point a specially trained detective was allocated to investigate the offences and to act as a single point of contact for the victim.

"Throughout the investigation and trial, the victim was supported by Greater Manchester police and other partner agencies. At no time did the investigating officer believe that the victim was anything other than determined to give evidence in this case. She was fully aware of the judicial process and of the special measures that were available to her as she gave evidence."

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This judge could not keep the defense lawyer from accusing a witness in the courtroom as liar? And he couldn't find any more objective sounding words than "perfectly proper and correct in her examination of all the witnesses in this case" after the suicide was related to that lawyer's behaviour"? :o
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Re: Sir Jimmy Saville passes away
« Reply #38 on: February 10, 2013, 08:27:07 AM »
That's very, very sad.

Many don't understand the hell that victims of child abuse suffer throughout their lives. Ruthless cross examination of a victim who is a witness can stir the pot to, it seems, a point where the victim can no longer cope. Such cross examinations are necessary, perhaps, to ensure that the witness is telling the truth, but appropriate professional support for those people should be offered.
 

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Comedian Jim Davidson denies fresh sex allegations


Comedian Jim Davidson answered bail on Wednesday after he was held in January by detectives working on Operation Yewtree

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Comedian Jim Davidson "vigorously denies" allegations made against him, his solicitor said last night following the star's re-arrest for further alleged sex offences.

The 59-year-old answered bail yesterday.

His solicitor Henri Brandman said: "Jim vigorously denies the allegations. He has not been charged with any offence. Neither he nor I will be making a further comment."

The former Big Break and Generation Game host answered bail yesterday after he was held in January by detectives working on Operation Yewtree, the national investigation prompted by the Jimmy Savile sex abuse scandal.

A Scotland Yard spokesman said a 59-year-old man had been "further arrested on suspicion of sexual offences in connection with further allegations made to Operation Yewtree".

He and a 53-year-old man were arrested in January. They both answered bail yesterday and have again been bailed until May

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Re: Sir Jimmy Saville passes away ♦ officers arrest 82-year-old man
« Reply #40 on: March 29, 2013, 03:24:09 PM »


Jimmy Savile investigation: officers arrest 82-year-old man11th suspect arrested as part of Operation Yewtree bailed until May after being held on suspicion of sexual offences

An 82-year-old man has been arrested on suspicion of sexual offences by police investigating allegations arising from the Jimmy Savile scandal.

The suspect, from Berkshire, was arrested on Thursday and bailed to a date in May pending further inquiries. He is the 11th person to be arrested by officers from Operation Yewtree, which was set up to examine allegations of abuse against Savile and others.

The man was originally interviewed under caution by officers on 29 November after a search warrant was executed at an address in Berkshire five days earlier. Police said the individual falls under the strand of the investigation which is looking at complaints against people who are not connected to Savile.

Several high-profile figures have been arrested in connection with the investigation including PR consultant Max Clifford, comedian Freddie Star, DJ Dave Lee Travis, former TV producer Wilfred De'Ath and comedian Jim Davidson. They all deny any wrongdoing and De'Ath was this week released without charge.

A police report released in January revealed that Savile abused children across six decades at 14 hospitals including Great Ormond Street while working as a DJ and TV presenter at the BBC.

Commander Peter Spindler of the Metropolitan police said Savile had used his fame and celebrity status to "hide in plain sight" and had "groomed the nation".

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« Reply #41 on: April 27, 2013, 03:58:50 PM »
Max Clifford vows to clear name after sex charges


Max Clifford reads a statement to the media outside his home in Surrey after he was charged with 11 historic counts of indecent assault against teenage girls.

PR guru Max Clifford has vowed to clear his name in court after he was charged with 11 historic counts of indecent assault against teenage girls.


The 70-year-old, famed for representing celebrities including Simon Cowell and Jade Goody, said he has been “living a 24/7 nightmare” since his arrest in December.

Clifford was charged with offences linked to girls aged from 14 to 19 between 1966 and 1985 and will appear at Westminster Magistrates’ Court on May 28.

He was arrested as part of Operation Yewtree, the national police inquiry sparked by allegations of abuse against Jimmy Savile.

Clifford told the Press Association: “The allegations in respect of which I have been charged are completely false and I have made this clear to the police during many, many hours of interviews. Nevertheless a decision has been taken to charge me with 11 offences involving seven women, the most recent of which is 28 years ago and the oldest 47 years ago. I have never indecently assaulted anyone in my life and this will become clear during the course of the proceedings.”

Later outside his home in Surrey, an emotional Clifford told reporters: “The allegations in respect of which I have been charged are completely false, very upsetting, very distressing, but completely false.

“I have made it clear to the police during probably around 25 hours of interviews since last December when I was initially arrested, that there’s absolutely no truth and substance in any of these allegations.”

The Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) found that there was insufficient evidence to bring charges in relation to three other allegations made against Clifford.

Alison Saunders, Chief Crown Prosecutor for CPS London, said: “We have carefully considered the evidence gathered as part of Operation Yewtree in relation to Max Clifford, who was initially arrested on December 6 2012 over allegations of sexual offences.

“Having completed our review, we have concluded that there is sufficient evidence and it is in the public interest for Mr Clifford to be charged with 11 offences of indecent assault relating to seven complainants.”

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Re: Stuart Hall admits indecent assaults ♦ He's sorry ♦ video
« Reply #42 on: May 02, 2013, 09:15:31 PM »
Broadcaster Stuart Hall admits indecent assaults

BBC broadcaster Stuart Hall has admitted 14 charges of indecently assaulting girls including one aged nine.

The 83-year-old of Wilmslow, Cheshire, pleaded guilty at Preston Crown Court to the offences, involving 13 victims, which occurred between 1967 and 1985.

Three charges of indecent assault and one of rape will lie on the court file.

His lawyer said Hall apologised to his victims and added: "He is all too aware that his disgrace is complete."

He has been bailed until sentencing on 17 June.

A BBC spokesperson said: "The BBC is appalled by the disgraceful actions of Stuart Hall and we would like to express our sympathy to his victims. We will continue to work with the police to assist them in this and any other inquiries they are making."

Stuart Hall arrives to admit 14 counts of indecent assault against children
Stuart Hall admits indecent assaults

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Hall admitted the offences last month but they could not be revealed due to reporting restrictions.

Chief Crown Prosecutor for the North West, Nazir Afzal, described Hall as an "opportunistic predator".

He added: "We prosecuted Stuart Hall because the evidence of the victims clearly established a pattern of behaviour that was unlawful and for which no innocent explanation could be offered.

"His victims did not know each other and almost two decades separated the first and last assaults but almost all of the victims, including one who was only nine at the time of the assault, provided strikingly similar accounts.

"Whether in public or private, Hall would first approach under friendly pretences and then bide his time until the victim was isolated.

"I would like to thank the victims for having had the bravery to come forward. This case clearly shows that the victims of abuse will not be denied justice by the passage of time and abusers will be held to account."

Mr Afzal said the Crown Prosecution Service (CPS) would not be proceeding with the rape charge as the woman who made the allegation no longer wished to give evidence in light of the guilty pleas.

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Re: Sir Jimmy Saville passes away
« Reply #43 on: May 03, 2013, 08:50:23 AM »
Noe Bill Roache (Ken Barlow of Coronation Street) has been arrested in connection with an alleged rape of a minor.
 

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« Reply #44 on: May 03, 2013, 12:35:10 PM »
Bill Roache & others
 

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Re: Sir Jimmy Saville passes away
« Reply #45 on: May 03, 2013, 01:00:29 PM »
Anyone remember Peter Adamson who played Len Fairclough? His fingers had a habit of finding their way into little girls' swim suits in his local pool. The scriptwriters killed off the character in a way that expressed their disapproval of the actor's wandering digit.
 

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Re: Sir Jimmy Saville passes away
« Reply #46 on: May 04, 2013, 05:28:52 PM »
Who's next?
 

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Re: Sir Jimmy Saville passes away
« Reply #47 on: May 04, 2013, 10:46:04 PM »
Now we've talked about Libel before.
Norris. Don't you just want to, how can I put it, not ever see him again ?
But actually innocent until proven Guilty !
Oh. Sorry. has he been accused ?
Some of these pri*ks are guilty and some are not.
The new MaCarthyism is around ?
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« Reply #48 on: May 04, 2013, 11:39:31 PM »
Saf ? Johnnie ? Actually. A serious point. A new McCarthyism ?
I fully share the revulsion expressed on here about these pervs - but it is very easy to put a grudge out there. Later particularly.
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Re: Sir Jimmy Saville passes away
« Reply #49 on: May 05, 2013, 07:00:14 AM »
When Savile died and a victim dared to make a complaint about him, a huge can of worms was opened. Many victims of abuse in those days kept quiet because no-one wanted to listen. Other, perhaps in their early teens, appeared to consent to the abuse but, in law, that's impossible. Once the dam was broken, other came forward and other alleged abusers were named. The scandal involves those in the police force and the BBC who kew about Savile and others and covered it all up. I think it has a long way to go before it's finished.

Some people are saying that the investigations are, after all this time, a waste of time and money, partly because evidence will be lacking. Well, Stuart Hall has admitted to the charges against him so that one certainly isn't a waste of time. What's especially important is that victims who have carried emotional pain for decades now have the opportunity to exorcise their demons.

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« Reply #50 on: May 05, 2013, 07:23:39 AM »
Saf I agree. The scale of these revelations is stunning and it is good that the truth is out. It is a national scandal that these facts have been suppressed for so long.
These Guys, immersed in success, adulation, money and probably with plenty of attention from beautiful adult women, want to abuse kids - it is totally sick.
As an aside only - I've seen no cases of Women being accused of abuse in this wave of disclosures.

 

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« Reply #51 on: May 05, 2013, 07:41:14 AM »
Saf. Yes Nigel Evans. A DM headline and a picture of him being driven away in a Bentley.
At the moment, these are allegations from 2 men in their 20's. Time will tell.
But UK society and the celebrity scene, looks to have a pretty sordid history lately.

 

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Re: Sir Jimmy Saville passes away
« Reply #52 on: May 05, 2013, 07:41:59 AM »
If the full truth were known, I expect that the Establishment, meaning Parliament, judiciary, churches and police forces, would be turned on its head. The truth is largely hidden by these institutions, partly to protect themselves. Usually, a few sacrificial lambs are brought to justice to keep the public happy but the huge paedophile networks continue undetected.

It's probably safe to say, Roger, that most abusers are men. However, there are females involved in abuse. Some are active, others support male abusers. Myra Hindley and the West woman are examples. I would estimate that most women involved in abuse are those who turn a blind eye, such as the mothers of abused children who fear for the financial future of the family if the father is locked up.
 

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Re: Sir Jimmy Saville passes away
« Reply #53 on: May 05, 2013, 09:08:25 PM »
what next

Nigel Evans: Rape Arrest
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Re: Sir Jimmy Saville passes away
« Reply #54 on: May 05, 2013, 11:06:44 PM »
Saf, you make some good points. Fact is, in our country these tossers are eventually brought to justice. Multiply by a million how easy it is for these guys to continue their vile behaviour over here. Perverts, Perverts , Perverts.
 

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Re: Sir Jimmy Saville passes away
« Reply #55 on: May 06, 2013, 12:13:20 PM »
Hey posh, welcome back to the forum.  Where ya been hiding these days?  I think the last time I saw you was at The Walrus for Christmas or New years? 

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Re: Sir Jimmy Saville passes away
« Reply #56 on: May 07, 2013, 07:48:56 AM »

Now Jimmy Tarbuck

Veteran comedian Jimmy Tarbuck has been arrested in connection with a historic child sex abuse allegation, sources said.

Tarbuck, 73, was questioned by North Yorkshire Police on April 26 in relation to an incident which allegedly occurred in the late 1970s in Harrogate, North Yorkshire, when the victim was a young boy.

The TV personality's name had not been revealed until the Daily Mail named him on Sunday night. It is understood he was arrested at his home in Kingston Upon Thames, south-west London, and released on bail.

The arrest was made following information passed by Metropolitan Police officers working on Operation Yewtree to North Yorkshire Police.

A force spokesman said: "North Yorkshire Police can confirm that a 73-year-old man has been arrested in connection with a historic child sex abuse investigation in Harrogate. The man was arrested in Kingston Upon Thames on Friday 26 April 2013. Following questioning, he was released on police bail pending further inquiries. The complaint relates to an incident that occurred in the late 1970s when the victim was a young boy. It would not be appropriate to comment further at this stage."

Jimmy Tarbuck is known for being a comedian who has spent more than 50 years in television.

Born in 1940 in Liverpool, he was a schoolmate of John Lennon and his first television breakthrough came with It's Tarbuck 65! in 1964. He hosted numerous quiz shows, including Winner Takes All and Full Swing.

In 1994 he was awarded an OBE by the Queen for his services to showbusiness and charity. Last November he performed in The Royal Variety Performance at the Royal Albert Hall in London.

His daughter is the actress, television and radio presenter Liza Tarbuck.

Mr Tarbuck's agent could not be reached for comment for on Sunday night.
 

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« Reply #57 on: May 07, 2013, 09:28:22 AM »
If Jimmy Tarbuck is guilty of this alleged offence, they should throw the book at him.
But after say 40 years, how do can you actually prove something like that without reliable witnesses ?
Jimmy Saville and Stuart Hall  seem obviously guilty by sheer weight of numbers.
But everyone in the pubic eye can now be a target for such allegations which might be untrue and motivated by design, malice or delusion.
And even if innocent, their reputations are stained forever. A new McCarthyism.
HOWEVER, it is truly horrifying that 'conspiracies of silence', the BBC and the Roman Catholic Church to name but two, have allowed offenders to go unpunished AND to continue offending. Absolute shame on those involved.



 

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« Reply #58 on: May 07, 2013, 10:35:41 AM »
I thought that McCarthyism was about Communist celebrities, not justice for victims of abuse in childhood.

I don't care how long ago the offences took place. The victims have suffered the results of abuse all their lives and perpetrators should face justice however long ago they committed their crimes.
 

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« Reply #59 on: May 07, 2013, 11:24:11 AM »
Saf. I agree with you completely. Let's hope if JT is guilty. they can find enough evidence to convict. It must be difficult. That's all.
 

 



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