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Offline Roger

Alcohol and Health
« on: February 05, 2016, 05:04:45 PM »
From BBC Radio 4 'More or Less', broadcast last week.
The latest advice from Dr Sally Davis, Chief Medical Officer UK, about the consumption of alcohol was for MEN to drink no more than 14 units a week, (the same as for women now), that's about 6 pints.  :lol
As I enjoy a couple of beers most days, I was miffed at this to say the least !

In the 'More or Less' program :-
Dr Jurgen Rein points out that health 'stats' comparing drinkers with non-drinkers are unreliable because people tend on average to underestimate the amount they do drink by 30% at least. Dr Rein is ultra-eminent apparently and he notes the beneficial effect of alcohol on circulation and it's protective effects as 'significant'.
The exciting data came from Prof. David Speigalhalter who is Winton Professor of Risk at Cambridge University.

Lifetime risks are evalued as follows :-

        ....... dying in a road accident is one in 300                              0.33%
        ....... dying from the effects of alcohol
                (at existing advisory levels) is one in 150                         0.67%
        ....... dying due to sedentary lifestyle is one in 9                      11.00%
        ....... dying from smoking related illnesses is one in 2               50.00%

Now I think it IS important for the Government to provide health data as guidance but these kill-joys pursuing their nanny state agendas should 'get lost' !
That's YOU Dr Sally Davis !  :cussing

It would be much better to address the problem of binge drinking generally and particularly as promoted among the young, (not least in Universities and Colleges and in the Military), rather than to pester us moderate drinkers.

Anyway, hope that's of interest.

Lies, d a m n lies and statistics !

Paassh anover LeO please Dear.   :cheers


Offline thaiga

Re: Alcohol and Health
« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2016, 09:08:36 PM »
A couple of leo's never hurt anybody, don't know if i could handle 4 though. pip! pip!

Anyone who goes to a psychiatrist should have his head examined.

Offline Roger

Re: Alcohol and Health
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2016, 07:32:33 PM »
Thanks, Thaiga for your reply and one of your Leo's would be great. In my next life.
Re. my comment re. the Military - I speak from close experience where RM recruits after a few hard days are told to go out and get BLASTED !!! (That's for years).
It's like feeding cigarettes FOC to the soldiers in WW1
All comments welcome


Offline Baby Farts

Re: Alcohol and Health
« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2016, 11:50:20 AM »
On a scale of one to ten I'd give those girls a 3.

That's the Clydesdale scale. it would take three Clydesdale horses to pull one of them off my face.   ;D

Offline thaiga

Re: Alcohol and Health
« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2016, 12:44:21 PM »
the Clydesdale scale  8)

good to see your up to speed.  "Airheads"

Anyone who goes to a psychiatrist should have his head examined.

Offline Roger

Re: Alcohol and Health
« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2016, 07:52:09 PM »
Well Thaiga and BF - thanks for the fun.
I was interested in what you might think yourselves about the issues I tried to raise. . My dictionary says a 'forum' is a 'place for discussion or debate'.
BF - you and your Clydesdales remind me - 'methinks he does protest too much'.
Anyway - I won't give up.
The Military in the UK are trained to booze, youngsters are encouraged and enabled to binge - after secondary school a week on Ibiza in blotto land seems obligatory and the drinking culture with young and not so young singles seems out of control.
But the UK Govt. tries to tell us a pint a day is too much to drink.
ATB and Mai pen lai


Offline Roger

Re: Alcohol, Sugar and Health
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2016, 03:04:36 PM »
An article in today's Guardian about the sugar in drinks peddled by Starbucks, Costa, Cafe Nero and the like - their drinks contain UP TO 25 TEASPOONFULS OF SUGAR EACH !!!!
Even a large Latte had 20 spoonfuls .......  (I wonder how many spoonfuls there are in a tiny M150).
Alongside the health crimes purveyed by Coca Cola, Pepsi et al, it is no surprise to see diabetes as a rampant problem here and around the World.
It does my head in that Governments don't have the balls to tackle obvious dangers such as this. A jobworthy twerp like Dr Sally Davis in the UK could direct her energies productively against sugar consumption.
I am much in favour of a sugar tax ! I have friends here and in the UK who suffer from diabetes.