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Re: A Horse, A Horse, My Tesco for A Horse
« Reply #30 on: February 08, 2013, 08:35:57 PM »
Horse meat is probably OK provided that the packing tells the truth. Ifyou but a beef product, you are entitled to believe that it's beef. Having saod the, I see the a government agency thinks that there may be a health risk. I have to say that horse meat gives me the trots.

The big question is, from where did the meat originate. The product producers may have bought it from a country that doesn't have what we would regard as acceptable standards of hygiene and business ethics.

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« Reply #31 on: February 08, 2013, 09:13:55 PM »

 What's the fuss? For years we've been told that Ready Meals contain too much Salt and Shergar.!

Tesco and Aldi remove French frozen meals ‘as a precaution’

Tesco and Aldi yesterday removed some frozen meals from their shelves as fears over contaminated meat products spread.

Both supermarket chains withdrew spaghetti and lasagne dishes produced by French supplier Comigel as ‘a precautionary measure’.

It came after Findus withdrew some lasagne meals after a labelling problem with the same supplier. It said the decision was not because of a food safety issue.

On Tuesday, Asda removed burgers supplied by Freeza Meats.

Samples from a batch of meat stored by the Newry-based Northern Ireland company, which had not entered the food chain, contained 80 per cent horse DNA.

Tesco has endured a torrid time of late, with the horse meat burger saga followed by claims this week a human tooth was found in a packet of sausages from the supermarket.

Tony Hinds, 27, claims he found the tooth in a packet of Tesco Finest Pork and Chive sausages at his local store in Sheerness, Kent.

However, Tesco has denied the tooth was there when it arrived in store after sending the sausages away for analysis.

‘We are sorry for any upset caused by this incident,’ Tesco said in a statement.

‘However, after a thorough investigation, we are confident the tooth was not inside the product when it arrived at the store.

‘All products undergo robust testing during the manufacturing process including metal detection.’

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« Reply #32 on: February 10, 2013, 01:33:11 PM »
Horsemeat scandal blamed on international fraud by mafia gangs

DNA testing of food to be stepped up following fears there has been criminal activity on an international scale

Environment secretary Owen Paterson wants to see more DNA testing on food products. Photograph: Will Oliver/AFP

Organised criminal gangs operating internationally are suspected of playing a major role in the horsemeat scandal that has seen supermarket shelves cleared of a series of products and triggered concerns about the contamination of the UK's food chain.

Sources close to the Department for the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs and the Food Standards Agency said it appeared that the contamination of beefburgers, lasagne and other products was the result of fraud that had an "international dimension".

Experts within the horse slaughter industry have told the Observer there is evidence that both Polish and Italian mafia gangs are running multimillion-pound scams to substitute horsemeat for beef during food production. There are claims that vets and other officials working within abattoirs and food production plants are intimidated into signing off meat as beef when it is in fact cheaper alternatives such as pork or horse.

In an attempt to reassure the public that Britain's food chain was not victim to systemic fraud, the environment secretary Owen Paterson on Saturday met representatives from the big four supermarkets, retail bodies and leading food producers to thrash out a plan to increase the amount of DNA testing of food.

"The retailers have committed to conduct more tests and in the interests of public confidence I've asked them to publish them on a quarterly basis," said Paterson. He stressed there was no evidence yet that the scandal had become a public safety issue.

Paterson insisted retailers had to play the leading role in clamping down on the problem. "Ultimate responsibility for the integrity of what is sold on their label has to lie with the retailer."

The last time the government sanctioned testing for horsemeat in animal products was in 2003 when equine DNA was found in salami.

The first results of a new series of tests for equine DNA in what the FSA terms "comminuted beef products" – where solid materials are reduced in size by crushing or grinding – will be published on Friday. "We have to be prepared that there will be more bad results coming through," Paterson said.

He confirmed that the government was open to bringing in the Serious and Organised Crime Agency if, as seems evident, the fraud is on an international scale. He said the Metropolitan police had been asked to investigate the scandal and that the force was liaising with counterparts in other countries. Paterson suggested the scandal was potentially a "worldwide" issue.

"I'm concerned that this is an international criminal conspiracy here and we've really got to get to the bottom of it," he said.

The Labour MP Mary Creagh said she was passing information to police that suggested several British companies were involved in the illegal horsemeat trade. "I hope that this information will enable the police to act speedily to stamp out these criminals who are putting the future of the food industry at risk."

Concerns about the substitution of horsemeat for beef first emerged in mid-January when supermarket chains withdrew several ranges of burgers. Fears of contamination prompted hundreds of European food companies to conduct DNA checks on their products that resulted in the food giant, Findus, discovering that one of its products, a frozen beef lasagne, contained meat that was almost 100% horse.

It has emerged that Findus conducted three tests on its products on 29 January that suggested there was horsemeat contamination. The revelation has raised questions about why it took several days for the products to be pulled from the shelves.

Findus indicated it was ready to sue as the company announced it would on Monday file a complaint against an unidentified party.

In a statement, the firm said: "Findus is taking legal advice about the grounds for pursuing a case against its suppliers, regarding what they believe is their suppliers' failure to meet contractual obligations about product integrity. The early results from Findus UK's internal investigation strongly suggests that the horsemeat contamination in beef lasagne was not accidental."

Supermarket chain Aldi has confirmed that two of its ready meal ranges produced by Comigel, the French supplier also used by Findus, were found to contain between 30% and 100% horsemeat.

Comigel claims it sourced its meat from Romania, which has been subjected to export restrictions due to the prevalence of the viral disease equine infectious anaemia in the country. Spanghero, the French company that supplied the meat for the Findus beef lasagne, announced it will also sue its Romanian suppliers.

The scandal has raised questions about what happens to the 65,000 horses transported around the EU each year for slaughter. The campaign group World Horse Welfare said thousands of animals suffered as a result of making long journeys across national borders. Partly as a result of welfare concerns, the trade in live horses has fallen dramatically. In 2001, 165,000 horses were shipped across Europe.

The decline in the cross-border trade in live horses has seen an increase in the sale of chilled and frozen horsemeat, much of which goes to Italy. Last year Romania significantly increased its export of frozen horsemeat to the Benelux countries.

Attention is now focusing on eastern Europe, a major supplier of horsemeat to France and Italy. Some of the meat that went into Ireland came from suppliers in Poland, which exports around 25,000 horses for slaughter each year. Industry sources also suggested to the Observer that gangs operating in Russia and the Baltic states were playing a role in the fraudulent meat trade.

Other food companies have, as a result of their investigations, found that their supplies have been contaminated. The FSA confirmed that meat held in cold storage in Northern Ireland has been impounded after it was discovered to contain equine DNA. A London-based company, 3663, found pork in some of the halal meat it supplies the prison service.

Questions are now being asked about meat supplied to a range of public sector organisations, including the NHS. "Every NHS and healthcare organisation will have different local circumstances and it would be for those organisations to satisfy themselves that the food they supply meets the needs of their patients," said the Department of Health. "Any investigations into the provenance of those supplies would also be done locally."

British farmers have expressed concerns that the scandal could affect consumer confidence in British beef. "Our members are rightly angry and concerned with the recent developments relating to contaminated processed meat products," said the National Farmers' Union president, Peter Kendall. "The contamination took place post farm-gate which farmers have no control over."

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Re: A Horse, A Horse, My Tesco for A Horse
« Reply #33 on: February 10, 2013, 08:20:44 PM »
There's a lot of blaming of unknown entities going on but  the one of the retailers was checking what came from where.

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Re: A Horse, A Horse, My Tesco for A Horse
« Reply #34 on: February 12, 2013, 01:28:44 PM »
News Flash. "Horses soon to become extinct in mainland Europe". The UK is eating them all ! Seriously, every day there is news from the UK as the use of horse meat masquerading as beef, is gradually disclosed as being really widespread. Tesco, Findus, Lidl, Aldi and probably most Supermarkets, seem to supplement horse meat with the odd bit of beef ! Fears emerging too for chicken and pork products.
Where do all these horses come from from ? They must be farming them like pigs or chickens over there.
My ex Missis in UK loved horses and I used to grump sometimes that they were 'only good for eating !'. Ha Ha. Looking back now................

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Re: A Horse, A Horse, My Tesco for A Horse
« Reply #35 on: February 12, 2013, 05:52:29 PM »

Beef contaminated with horse meat may have been sold in Britain for 'years'

Supermarkets might have been selling beef contaminated with horse meat for years because of lax food regulations, experts say.

The Food Standards Agency was criticised after admitting it had never carried out tests for horse meat on food sold in Britain.

Seven of the leading supermarkets have cleared their shelves of frozen beefburgers after a supplier sold Tesco products which were 29 per cent horse meat.

The supermarket took out newspaper advertisements to apologise to customers. The discovery was made by Irish authorities, leading to accusations that the Food Standards Agency in Britain had been taking a “light touch”.

The concerns emerged as:

•  David Cameron said the discovery of horse meat in burgers was “disturbing” and “completely unacceptable”.

• The Food Standards Agency said it was considering taking legal action, which could be against supermarkets or suppliers.

• Sainsbury’s, Asda and the Co-op cleared their shelves of beefburgers bought from the suppliers at the centre of the scandal.

• Irish scientists said they had discovered that the meat was contaminated two months ago. However, they did not act because they wanted to conduct further tests.

• Suppliers in Holland and Spain are being investigated for supplying the contaminated meat.

The Food Standards Agency said it had not conducted checks in the past because horse meat did not pose a threat to health.

However, Tim Lang, a professor of food policy at City University, London, said: “It could have been going on for years but we wouldn’t know about it because we have never conducted tests.

“For too long we have had light touch regulation. The Food Standards Agency has to be institutionalised into taking a more critical approach. They have to work on the assumption that things could go wrong.”

The scale of horse meat contamination emerged on Tuesday, when the Food Safety Authority of Ireland said it had tested 27 beefburger products.

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Re: A Horse, A Horse, My Tesco for A Horse ♦ uk horsemeat in kebabs
« Reply #36 on: February 13, 2013, 11:43:37 AM »
Now it's British horsemeat in takeaway burgers and kebabs: Police raid UK abattoir at centre of crisis

FSA and police raid slaughterhouses in west Yorkshire and west Wales
Racehorses and pet ponies could have ended up in restaurants across UK
Environment Secretary Owen Paterson described it as ‘absolutely shocking’
It is the first suspected case of a UK abattoir passing off horse meat for beef
Waitrose also pulls range of beef meatballs because they might contain pork
FSA boss says contamination of more meats cannot be ruled out

Meat from British horses was discovered in takeaway burgers and kebabs yesterday.
The shocking find, which implicates the UK for the first time in the food fraud scandal, came during police raids in Yorkshire and West Wales.
Until last night, foreign abattoirs and food manufacturers had been blamed for what ministers called an ‘international criminal conspiracy’.

Probe: Peter Boddy, pictured, who runs the slaughterhouse at the centre of the raids, last night denied any wrongdoing

But food officials say horses were slaughtered here and their meat sold to takeaways all over the country. The burgers were labelled as beef and the kebabs as lamb. The alarming twist suggests retired racehorses and ponies could have been sold on as regular meat.
Environment Secretary Owen Paterson described the development as ‘utterly and totally disgraceful’ but pulled out of making an emergency statement to the House of Commons.

The Government has been accused of delay, confusion and buck-passing in its handling of the crisis. In the three weeks that followed the initial discovery of horse meat contamination, ministers insisted it was not a British problem while the Food Standards Agency limited the scope of its initial tests to around 230 food samples.
But following revelations of high levels of contamination of Findus products Mr Paterson called in supermarkets and food firms for talks and insisted on a much wider range of testing of all processed beef products.

Worrying: Horses killed at a British slaughterhouse were turned into burgers and kebabs at a Welsh food factory. This image shows farm workers at Peter Boddy Horse abattoir in west Yorkshire which was raided

Mary Creagh, Labour’s environment spokesman, said: ‘I’m glad the FSA has investigated the concerns about horse meat entering the food chain I first raised with ministers three weeks ago. It’s right that action is being taken to deal with the criminals whose activities are damaging confidence in the UK food industry.’
The astonishing revelation makes clear that horse meat has reached British high streets from three separate sources over the past year or more.
First, horse meat from Poland was sent to Ireland where it was turned into burgers for Tesco, Burger King, the Co-op, Asda and Aldi, among others.
Then, horse meat from Romania was sent to a French food company, Comigel, which turned it into lasagne and spaghetti bolognese for Findus, Tesco and Aldi

Grim: Horses killed at a British slaughterhouse were turned into burgers and kebabs at a Welsh food factory

Now a Yorkshire slaughterhouse and a food manufacturer in Wales have taken horses and turned them in to 100 per cent horse meat burgers and kebabs.
Police raids were carried out yesterday on the Peter Boddy Licensed Slaughterhouse at Todmorden, West Yorkshire, which is licensed to kill horses.
It supplied horse carcasses to Farmbox Meats Ltd of Llandre in Aberystwyth, which then turned them into burgers labelled as beef or kebabs that would presumably be sold as lamb.
Last night, the FSA said: ‘The FSA has detained all meat found and seized paperwork, including customer lists from the two companies.’ The FSA’s director of operations, Andrew Rhodes, said: ‘I have suspended both plants immediately while our investigations continue.

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Re: A Horse, A Horse, My Tesco for A Horse
« Reply #37 on: February 13, 2013, 12:27:26 PM »
The extent of this fraud is gob-smacking. It makes Bernard Matthews look like an amateur.

Now then I wonder what's in Tesco's processed meat products in Thailand. Are they made here or elsewhere?

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Re: A Horse, A Horse, My Tesco for A Horse
« Reply #38 on: February 13, 2013, 10:25:29 PM »
I saw a story in the press stating that the Italian and Romanian Mafia are much involved in this scandal. Unfortunately there was no mention of the Tesco, Waitrose, Carrefour or Morrisons mafia.

Despite my avowed intent not to descend into my anecdotage I am sorry but I cannot resist this one:-

One of my fellow pupils at Primary School used to steal money from his grandmother's handbag in order to buy cigarettes. When he left school he went to work for his uncle who had a very successful firm selling frozen turkeys to supermarkets. Part of the business was devoted to exporting frozen turkeys to Spain.  He had a fleet of refrigerated lorries to ship the produce out to Spain.  It was clearly uneconomic to bring the lorries back to England without any cargo.  Unless,  you could load them up with interesting substances from North Africa.  This is exactly what Uncle did , making great profits, until he was finally caught. My ex  Primary School companion was a potential key witness to these goings on and would be a vital witness in Uncle's trial. The local plods came and confiscated his passport.  A couple of months later he walked into the local Police Station and asked for his passport back so that he could go overseas on a business trip.  The plods kindly handed over his passport and my school friend absconded to Spain to live happily everafter. 

I think the point is that with any trade , like meat, which involves transportation across frontiers there is the opportunity to start dealing in much more profitable items than beefburgers.  You are much safer eating food from roadside stalls in Thailand. WYSIWIG.
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Re: A Horse, A Horse, My Tesco for A Horse
« Reply #39 on: February 14, 2013, 07:58:28 AM »
Perhaps, if the mafia is involved, there could be some human meat in the products and bits of lead.

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Re: A Horse, A Horse, My Tesco for A Horse
« Reply #40 on: February 14, 2013, 03:51:06 PM »

Horsemeat scandal has left ministers 'flat-footed', says committee of MPs

Parliamentarians say scaling down of food safety regulator's powers has reduced chances of spotting mislabelled food

Ministers have been "flat-footed" in their handling of the horsemeat scandal and have "weakened" the capacity of regulators to spot mislabelled food by scaling down the powers of the food safety regulator, according to a damning report from a cross-party group of MPs.

The highly critical report came as two surveys of public attitudes to the scandal found that public confidence in food has been hit, with between a third and a half of consumers saying they would stop buying processed meat.

The verdict of the MPs on the environment, food and rural affairs committee is likely to be seen by the coalition's critics as a crushing condemnation of ministers' attempts to deregulate the food industry.

But ministers will take comfort from the fact that few consumers appear, so far, to blame the government for the crisis with meat processors and food manufacturers shouldering the odium.

Highlighting the "diminished role" of the Food Standards Agency (FSA) since it lost staff and funding in 2010, the MPs recommend that:

• The FSA must be given tougher powers to force producers to test their products.

• Any test results – for example by supermarkets – must be reported to the FSA whether tests are ordered by the agency or carried out independently.

• There should be a broader range of testing to provide greater assurance to consumers.

In a highly embarrassing section for ministers, the committee was also critical of the government's current plans to reduce food labelling standards.

Ministers are seeking UK exemption from proposed new EU rules which would require the declaration of the amount of meat in loose fresh meat products. The Department for the Environment Food and Rural Affairs (Defra) also wants to allow minced meat sold in the UK to have a higher fat and collagen content than permitted in other EU states.

"This is not the time for the government to be proposing reducing the labelling standards applied to British food," said the MPs, who also want tighter UK controls on horse passports and more EU-wide checks on abattoirs and ports.

Ministers should also examine the practicality of making factories have separate production lines for different meat products and ensure certified religiously prepared food is sufficiently controlled.

An online survey of 1,946 people conducted for Sky News by pollsters YouGov on Tuesday and Wednesday suggested one in five had changed their shopping habits as a result of the scandal and more than half of them had stopped buying processed meat altogether.

But while 49% of those questioned blamed meat processing companies for the crisis and 20% food manufacturers, only 10% blamed supermarkets. There was some comfort for ministers in that only 3% directly blamed the government and 8% the FSA.

A poll of 6,620 people for the Kantar group which runs consultancy, advisory and market research services conducted on Monday, found that 36% were less likely to purchase processed meat as a result of the scandal with a similar proportion saying it would make no difference. A quarter of people claimed they did not buy processed meat anyway.

The MPs' report follows a short inquiry, launched after tests by Irish authorities published last month revealed horse and pork contamination of frozen beef products. It criticised the FSA for not acting when it knew of its Irish counterpart's intentions in November.

The agency, said the MPs, appeared "to have been insufficiently curious to consider whether similar testing would have been appropriate in the UK".

They added: "The contamination of products in the UK may have come to light earlier if the FSA and their Irish counterparts had had a more collaborative approach."

Under the coalition government's paring down of the agency, which was founded by Labour in response to the BSE crisis, it was left with a "core remit" of food safety and implementation of the food labelling and composition policy. Other functions including policy and nutrition labelling were transferred to the health department, while food labelling and composition policy, not related to safety, went to Defra.

The committee warned the FSA's now weaker role "has led to a lack of clarity about where responsibility lies, and this has weakened the UK's ability to identify and respond to food standards concerns".

The report added that "the current contamination crisis has caught the FSA and government flat-footed and unable to respond effectively within structures designed primarily to respond to threats to human health".

In a recommendation made before current investigations were launched into alleged fraud at two UK plants, the committee said that if sites in "any particular member state" were identified as a source of contamination, "we recommend that the government discuss with the commission now the circumstances and legal basis for a suspension of meat exports from that particular member state should that course of action become appropriate."

Ministers had said before the UK plants were identified and raided on Tuesday that they could not seek to suspend exports from any other European country because there was no health risk from mislabelling.

Anne McIntosh the Conservative MP for Thirsk and Malton, who chairs the committee, said: "The scale of contamination emerging in the meat supply chain is breathtaking.

"More revelations will doubtless come to light in the UK and across the EU.

"There is every indication that horsemeat has been intentionally substituted for beef by criminals with access to the food industry.

"Elements within the food industry have duped consumers in the UK and across Europe in pursuit of profit."

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Re: A Horse, A Horse, My Tesco for A Horse
« Reply #41 on: February 14, 2013, 04:17:47 PM »
While I was in the local Tesco today, I bumped into the new manager who speaks quite good English. I mentioned the problem in Europe. At first he didn't seem to know anythig about it. Then he said that there was no problem with the freezer meals in his store. Sure enough, it was all CP.

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Re: A Horse, A Horse, My Tesco for A Horse ♦ Bute Found In Carcasses
« Reply #42 on: February 14, 2013, 09:30:47 PM »
Horsemeat: Bute Found In Carcasses In UK

Low levels of a potentially dangerous drug have been found in horsemeat destined for human consumption.

New figures released by the Food Standards Agency (FSA) show that eight horses slaughtered in the UK between January 30 and February 7 tested positive for the veterinary painkiller bute.

But FSA tests on Findus processed beef products withdrawn from sale in the UK after the discovery of traces of horsemeat found no evidence of the drug.

Six of the carcasses that tested positive were from the abattoir LJ Potter Partners in Taunton, Somerset.

They had already been exported to France and may have entered the food chain. Authorities are urgently trying to trace the meat.

The other two carcasses were found at High Peak Meat Exports of Nantwich, and were disposed of.

Chief Medical Officer Dame Sally Davies said bute - also known as phenylbutazone - can cause skin rashes and problems with blood cell production when used in humans at therapeutic doses.

But the contaminated horsemeat contained levels much lower than those used to treat patients.

"If you ate 100% horse burgers of 250g, you would have to eat, in one day, more than 500 or 600 to get to a human dose," she said.

"It would really be difficult to get up to a human dose."

The FSA said it is investigating how contaminated horses slipped through the net.

All horses are legally required to have a passport, which is stamped if they are treated with bute.

Abattoirs are required to check the passport before slaughtering the animal, and discard all those where bute has been used or their treatment history is uncertain.

Around 9,000 horses a year in Britain are slaughtered for human consumption. Almost all the meat is exported.

The FSA  said new rules brought in this month would in future prevent abattoirs releasing horse carcasses until tests had shown they were clear.

Recent changes to the testing process mean results can now be given in 48 hours. It used to take two weeks and carcasses were allowed to be sent for processing before results were returned.

The test results come as a Staffordshire County Council has taken beef off its school menus as a precaution.

Staffordshire Councillor Mark Winnington said they wanted to take a "belt and braces" approach.

"We have every confidence in our suppliers, however while this story continues to be in the news it seemed sensible to offer an alternative meal, where beef is not Farm Assured and sourced in the UK," he said.

"As a council we are committed to promoting and using local produce as much as possible and are currently expanding a pilot scheme in schools where only meat from Staffordshire farms and this is being rolled out across the county.

"While there is absolutely no suggestion that there is any problem with any of the beef supplied we wanted to take a belt and braces approach, but  expect beef to be back on the menu after half-term."

Earlier in the day German supermarket chain Real said it had found traces of horsemeat in frozen lasagne that it had pulled off the shelves last week as a precautionary measure. Other German supermarkets are also testing products.

And a Sky News poll suggested one fifth of shoppers in the UK are changing what they buy as a result of the horsemeat scandal.

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Re: A Horse, A Horse, My Tesco for A Horse
« Reply #43 on: February 15, 2013, 08:34:27 AM »
The only problem i see is you should get what it says on the packet.

The real issue is the supermarkets putting more and more pressure on the suppliers to cut costs. And this is what happens corners are cut.
I recently bought a Beef stew in the uk in a major supermarket , when i read the label it said made with ox cheek. Not really what i would call Beef


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Re: A Horse, A Horse, My Tesco for A Horse
« Reply #44 on: February 15, 2013, 08:26:47 PM »
Another issue with horse meat, they say, is the drugs pumped into live horses that are harmful to humans.

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« Reply #45 on: February 15, 2013, 08:35:41 PM »
Hi Saf. I saw somewhere that the drugs in horsemeat might be a problem if you were eating more than 600 burgers made of horse meat daily.
But it should be what it says on the packet of course.
I say again, they must be farming these hosses like chickens or pigs in wider' Europe' to meet this demand.


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Re: A Horse, A Horse, My Tesco for A Horse
« Reply #46 on: February 16, 2013, 08:07:14 AM »
i would also say that if you ate 600 burgers made of chicken or any meat the drugs would also get you.

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Re: A Horse, A Horse, My Tesco for A Horse ♦ More Horsemeat Found
« Reply #47 on: February 19, 2013, 02:40:05 PM »
More Horsemeat Found In European Beef Products

The world's largest food company, Nestle, has pulled beef pasta meals from grocery store shelves in Italy and Spain, saying DNA tests have showed the presence of horse meat in them.

The company announced Monday that it has detected more than one percent horse meat in two products -- beef ravioli and beef tortellini sold under the Buitoni label. It is also removing a Nestle frozen meat product sold to catering businesses in France.

Also Monday, German discount chain Lidl pulled products off the shelves in Finland and Sweden after tests confirmed the presence of horsemeat.

The horsemeat scandal began earlier this year in Britain when horsemeat was discovered in frozen lasagna meals sold by Swedish-based frozen food giant Findus. The meals were produced by French food company Cogel with meat supplied mostly by French meat processing firm Spanghero.

Earlier this month, French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius called for sanctions for those who were selling horsemeat as beef.

No one has reported health risks from the horsemeat, but the fraud has unsettled consumers across Europe.

Sweden's Findus has said it will file a legal complaint in France against the French meat processor and food producer.

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Re: A Horse, A Horse, My Tesco for A Horse
« Reply #48 on: February 19, 2013, 03:16:31 PM »
I heard that horse meat had found its way into hospitals and schools in the UK. Someone hasn't been checking suppliers very diligently.

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« Reply #49 on: February 20, 2013, 04:02:16 PM »
Fears over a Europe-wide food fraud scandal concerning horsemeat sold as beef have spread to Hong Kong after an imported brand of "beef" lasagne was pulled from shelves, officials said Wednesday.

Hong Kong authorities last week ordered a top local supermarket chain to remove the lasagne made by frozen food giant Findus, one of the firms at the centre of the scandal.

The product was imported from Britain and made by French firm Comigel. Western food is popular in the Asian financial centre, which has a large population of expatriates.

Hong Kong's Centre for Food Safety urged locals not to consume the item, which it said "might be adulterated with horsemeat which has not undergone tests for veterinary drugs".

The product had been sold at supermarkets run by ParknShop, one of the biggest supermarket chains in the southern Chinese city and owned by tycoon Li Ka-shing.

"The product was removed from our stores last week following the government's instructions," a ParknShop spokeswoman told AFP Wednesday.

The chain has about 280 stores in Hong Kong and the neighbouring gaming hub of Macau.

A spokeswoman at the government's food and environmental hygiene department said authorities would monitor the food fraud scandal closely but only one contaminated product had so far been sold in Hong Kong.

Neither the supermarket nor the government could give the number of the Findus frozen beef lasagnes that were recalled in the city.

Checks by AFP found no similar action regarding suspect food had so far been taken in Indonesia, the Philippines or Malaysia.

Concerns about horsemeat first emerged in mid-January when Irish authorities found traces of horse in beefburgers made by firms in Ireland and Britain and sold in supermarket chains including Tesco and Aldi.

The scandal intensified when Comigel alerted Findus this month to the presence of horsemeat in the meals it had made for the food giant and which were on sale in Britain.

Since then, supermarket chains have removed millions of "beef" products as tests are carried out to detect horsemeat.

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Re: My Tesco for A Horse ♦ Birds Eye withdraws UK ready meals
« Reply #50 on: February 22, 2013, 09:53:32 PM »
Horsemeat scandal: Birds Eye withdraws UK ready meals

The scandal began last month after horsemeat was found in frozen beefburgers

Birds Eye has withdrawn three beef ready meals from supermarkets in the UK and Ireland as a precaution after horse DNA was found in a product in Belgium.

Birds Eye said its chilli con carne had tested positive for 2% horse DNA.

The news comes as the Food Standards Agency prepares to announce results of its latest tests into the contamination of processed beef products.

The tests - on a range of ready meals - are likely to indicate whether the horsemeat scandal has been contained.

Birds Eye said that, although the chilli meal was sold only in Belgium, it was withdrawing all other products made by the supplier - Belgian group Frigilunch.

The company said as a precautionary measure in the UK and Ireland it would clear its Traditional Spaghetti Bolognese 340g, Shepherd's Pie 400g and Beef Lasagne 400g from the supermarkets. It will also clear the chilli from shelves in Belgium.

Birds Eye said: "Whilst this is not a food safety issue, it is clearly unacceptable."

"We want to reassure you from the testing we have completed that all Birds Eye beef burgers, beef pies and beef platters do not contain horse DNA."

Customers who have bought any of the three products will be offered a refund if they contact Birds Eye customer services, the group said.

"We want to apologise to consumers and reassure them that we will keep them fully informed and that we are taking action to deal with this issue," the company added in a statement.
Gelatine and beef dripping

Last month's discovery of horsemeat in some processed beef products sold by a number of UK supermarkets sparked widespread investigations.

Tesco, Lidl, Iceland and Aldi were caught up in the scandal.

Across Europe a growing number of companies, including Findus and Nestle, have recalled beef ready meals after tests found they contained horse DNA.

The Food Standards Agency asked UK food retailers to test the beef in thousands of their products after the crisis emerged.

In the first results, released on 15 February, 29 out of 2,501 tests were positive - that is, they contained at least 1% horsemeat. The positive results were all in products that had previously been identified and withdrawn.

The first phase of the investigation saw 224 samples of raw minced beef products - including burgers, minced beef, beef sausage or meatballs - checked for horse and pig DNA.

The second set of tests - the results of which are those due to be released - were carried out on 140 samples of beef-based ready meals. The tests for horse or pig DNA covered a range of frozen, chilled or canned products that included lasagne, chilli con carne, cottage pie, ravioli, cannelloni and spaghetti bolognese.

Chris Mallon, of the National Beef Association, said more people had rejected processed meat and switched to buying from a local butcher since the horsemeat scandal broke.

He said the price of burgers had risen by 14%, which suggested manufacturers were now using better quality ingredients: "If you want a high quality beef product it will have to cost more."

On Monday the FSA is to expand the tests to look at foodstuffs labelled as containing beef as a major ingredient. That could include products such as minced meat, prepared meat such as seasoned kebabs, gelatine, beef dripping, stock cubes and steak.

There are also continuing criminal investigations in the UK, the Irish Republic and continental Europe.

The FSA has previously said the matter is one of fraud rather than a health issue.
Further findings

Meanwhile, seven Welsh councils have said they received burgers made by a firm where horse DNA was found.

On Thursday the Burger Manufacturing Company (BMC), at Llanelwedd, Builth Wells, withdrew suspect products after three samples tested positive for horsemeat.

BMC said its meat came from Farmbox Meats in Ceredigion, which is already under police investigation.

In a separate development, traces of horse DNA were found in a frozen burger at a school kitchen in North Lanarkshire.

Procurement agency Scotland Excel later advised Scottish councils to "place a hold on the use of all frozen beefburger products".

Meanwhile, in Northern Ireland, burgers containing horsemeat were discovered at three agricultural campuses.

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Re My Tesco for A Horse ♦ :Burger Sales Plunge 43%
« Reply #51 on: February 26, 2013, 09:24:30 PM »
Burger Sales Plunge 43% Amid Horsemeat Scare

Frozen burger sales are almost cut in half as consumers reject
the meat products offered for sale by supermarkets, new data shows.

Frozen beef burger and ready meal sales have plunged dramatically, according to the first retail sales data since the horsemeat scandal erupted.

Kantar Worldpanel said that in the four weeks ending February 17, frozen burger sales plunged by 43% while frozen ready meals dropped 13%.

While some of the decline can be directly attributed to consumers rejecting the products, there has also been an availability reduction as affected lines were progressively withdrawn by retailers.

Last week Birds Eye withdrew 15 beef products in four European nations
Horsemeat contamination was first revealed on January 16 after analysis was undertaken by Irish food officials. The scandal has since spread across Europe.

A Nielsen consumer survey conducted two weeks ago showed that 96% of UK adults were aware of the horsemeat scandal and 74% were concerned about it.

According to Kantar, the latest research indicates a significant change in shopping habits as a result of the contamination.

The data also indicated changing fortunes of supermarkets during the 12 weeks to February 17.

It said out of the so-called Big Four supermarkets - Asda, Morrisons, Sainsbury's and Tesco - only Sainsbury's increased market share in the quarter.

Horsemeat is still highly regarded in some European countries
Sainsbury's saw a growth rate of 4.6% in the period, while Tesco saw its market share drop from 30.1% a year ago to 29.7% now.

Tesco was the first major retailer to withdraw its frozen burgers, after equine DNA was discovered in products produced by its meat processors.

"It might seem natural to attribute this decline to the horsemeat contamination; however, Tesco undertook heavy promotions this time last year, where consumers received a £5 voucher when they spent £40, and not repeating this offer will have adversely affected its share," Kantar Worldpanel director Edward Garner said.

Morrisons was the only retailer to post a sales decline in the 12 weeks, due in part to easing Christmas demand, a lack of convenience stores and no online presence.

It has since announced a decision to buy a swathe of Blockbuster video stores to convert into metro outlets.

Morrisons is also expected to bolster sales in the coming months as it is the only major UK supermarket with its own abattoir division, assuring meat supply chain integrity.

Brand name Findus was also found to have used horse in its beef products
Meanwhile, there appears to be a growing split in the upper and lower edges of the market.

"Waitrose and Aldi deliver all-time record shares this period of 4.8% and 3.3% respectively indicating that market polarisation and the 'two nations' consumer climate continues," Mr Garner said.

"Iceland records 10.1% growth confirming that the frozen food category as a whole remains robust."

Research now shows that the total grocery market is growing at a rate of 3.7%, which lags behind grocery price sector inflation of 4.3%.

As a result, pressure continues on shoppers who are using 'coping strategies' to reduce their effective personal inflation rate.

These strategies include switching products and retailers to seek out offers.


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Re: Pure horsemeat was sold as 'diced beef'
« Reply #52 on: March 24, 2013, 12:32:47 PM »
Pure horsemeat was sold as 'diced beef' to shoppers on market stall•Meat imported by Hungarian Food Ltd and sold on market stall in Lancashire

•Horse flesh was also being sold a shop in Liverpool called Taste of Hungary

•All remaining unsold meat has been withdrawn from sale, FSA said

Pure horsemeat imported from Hungary was sold to British shoppers as 'diced beef', officials have confirmed.
Nearly half the meat had already been sold to the public before its true provenance was discovered.
The Food Standards Agency said that 100kg (220lb) of horsemeat was imported by Hungarian Food Ltd in Preston, Lancashire, and sold on its market stall in town and a shop in Liverpool.

On sale: Hungarian Food Ltd has been found to be selling horsemeat falsely labelled as diced beef at its market stall in Preston, Lancashire (stock image)

The remaining unsold 1kg bags have been withdrawn from sale.
An FSA spokesman said: 'The Food Standards Agency has been informed by Lancashire County Council that it has identified 100kg of horsemeat imported from Hungary labelled as beef.
'The meat was imported by Hungarian Food Ltd in Preston.
'Investigations showed that 40kg (90lb) were sold through Hungarian Food Ltd's own market stall in Preston, and through a shop in Liverpool called Taste of Hungary

'The meat was sold in 1kg (2.2lb) bags labelled as “diced beef”.
'The Food Standards Agency has notified the European Commission and the Hungarian authorities.'
The meat is being tested for  the anti-inflammatory veterinary drug bute, the FSA confirmed.
The manager of Taste of Hungary admitted that he ate some of the meat, thinking it was beef.
Attila Fabian, who runs the shop in Sefton, Merseyside, said that he bought 20 bags from Hungarian Food Ltd last May instead of importing it directly – but it sold so badly that he took four or five bags home for his family.
'It tasted like beef, it looked  like beef. I was shocked when environmental health told me what happened exactly.'
Mr Fabian said his shop sold about a dozen bags of the horsemeat, leaving three bags left in the freezer. They have now been taken away for tests. He said the shop had ceased trading with Hungarian Food Ltd after the firms 'fell out' last July.

Horsemeat: The latest revelations come after Leeds-based supermarket giant Asda admitted it had removed its £1.54 corned beef products from stores across Britain two weeks ago on March 8

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Re: Staggering ♦ no prosecutions over horsemeat scandal
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'Staggering' no prosecutions over horsemeat scandal, says senior MP

It is “staggering” that no one has been prosecuted over the horsemeat scandal, a senior MP said on Tuesday.

Anne McIntosh, who chairs the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs committee, said there had to be prosecutions over the horsemeat scandal to restore trust in frozen and processed food.

Ms McIntosh said she wanted to see “see more spot checks to ensure that there’s confidence that what’s in the product going forward is what it says on the label”.

Her committee published a report on Tuesday into the horsemeat scandal, when traces of horse was found in a wide range of meat products.

The committee said that consumer confidence in the frozen meat sector would be restored if those responsible for the horsemeat scandal are identified and prosecuted.

The report also expressed concern that no prosecutions have yet been brought, despite clear evidence of organised fraud in the meat supply chain.

She told BBC Radio Four’s Today programme that her committee could not understand why those behind the scandal, which first started early last year, had not yet been brought to justice.

She said: “Given than Catherine Brown, the chief executive [of the Food Standards Agency], told us in February that the contamination probably started in March last year, 2012, then it does seem staggering that the evidence is not there either in this country or working with Europol to bring the necessary prosecution. We believe that that would restore trusts in frozen and processed foods.”

She added: “It’s not just that there haven’t been prosecutions, we’d also like to see more spot checks to ensure that there’s confidence that what’s in the product going forward is what it says on the label.

“We were told right at the start that if there had been adulteration that the perpetrators would face the full force of the law.

“We understand that it takes time, but we just think that a simple straightforward prosecution, someone being arrested and prosecution.

“We were just told that the investigation would have to take its course and that the evidence that’s been supplied by the FSA would have been be done over by the police and the Crown Prosecution Service.

“I think it’s just shocking that we still don’t know at what point the contamination entered the food chain and we don’t want it to look as if the perpetrators have got away with it.”

Ms McIntosh said that retailers should have to fund more checks that horsemeat was not re-entering the food chain after the scandal.

She said: “Given that 80 per cent of the food that we buy is sold through five supermarket chains.

“We’re recommending that there should be a targeted approach, that there should be regular but random DNA testing conducted by the supermarket but crucially that the results would be posted on the supermarket website.

“Obviously the retailers would have to pay. The retailers have taken quite a dent, we saw in their results that frozen food sales had taken quite a drop. It’s in their own interests to restore that. It’s a very important part of the market.

“They could start doing it tomorrow, not in isolation, we want to see local authorities again to do spot checks.

“We’re increasingly concerned at the declining number of food analysts. Local authorities are required by the FSA to do the tests, they rely on food analysts to do so.”
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