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Offline thaiga

'in return to Victorian Britain'
« on: May 01, 2015, 01:30:57 PM »
Teachers bringing packed lunches for pupils 'in return to Victorian Britain'

Teachers are bringing an extra packed lunch for poor pupils, washing their clothes and even cutting their hair as they warn of a return to Victorian poverty.

They are also providing PE kits and giving families tickets to attend school trips from their own pockets and school budgets to help students from disadvantaged backgrounds, a survey of school leaders has found.

Louis Coiffait, of the National Association of Head Teachers, which carried out the study, said: “If you’re a poor child growing up in what seems like Victorian Britain at times, schools have to provide basic parenting and other services.”

He cited a case of a teacher in Hackney, east London, who had to teach a child how to brush her teeth after the pupil came to school with food in her teeth and toothache.

Other teachers had to provide their students with toothbrushes and monitor that they brushed their teeth during school hours.

Mr Coiffait said he has visited schools that now had a room with a washing machine and kitchen facilities. “Teachers give pupils new clothes while they wash their dirty clothes and prepare breakfast for them in these rooms,” he said. “They look like a family home.”

The NAHT published a survey of more than 2,000 school leaders in which 84 per cent said they were providing more support than five years ago.

In other examples, teachers were buying school bags and stationary for pupils, offering free transport, birthday cards and even headline treatment. Teachers were also running foodbanks through the school, with the help of charitable donations.

FULL STORY: telegraph.co.uk
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Online Taman Tun

Re: 'in return to Victorian Britain'
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2015, 02:34:00 PM »
So what is the cause of this? Global warming or the wicked Tories with their vicious cuts.  Must not blame the woefully inadequate parents in case we infringe their 'uman rights.

BTW what a pain to type 'uman. The predictive text tried to change it to imam.
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Offline thaiga

Re: 'in return to Victorian Britain'
« Reply #2 on: May 03, 2015, 11:59:26 AM »
Here's a clip worth a view, and quite sad times for some

The Horrific World of England's Workhouse

This documentary shown here relate to important times and figures in history and an idea of what some of our ancesters went through.

The Horrific World of England's Workhouse (Full Documentary)
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Online Taman Tun

Re: 'in return to Victorian Britain'
« Reply #3 on: May 03, 2015, 04:04:44 PM »
Thaiga, I agree, horrific. I just cannot stand so many luvvies.  Let them eat cake.
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Offline thaiga

Re: 'in return to Victorian Britain'
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2015, 05:02:42 PM »
Mum said can we borrow 2 slices of bread
oh! an can you cut them with a jammy knife
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Offline thaiga

Re: 'in return to Victorian Britain'
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2015, 11:10:26 AM »
Don't you just love the old sayings

let’s bring these phrases back

“Butter upon bacon”

“Not up to dick”

“Bang up to the elephant”

"Popsy wopsy"

"Strumpet"
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Offline dawn

Re: 'in return to Victorian Britain'
« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2015, 11:14:30 AM »
Strumpet had to look that one up,that is an awful word

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Re: 'in return to Victorian Britain'
« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2015, 12:19:16 PM »
I think Strumpet is a good word.  But probably ever used by Victorian gutter snipes.
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Offline thaiga

Re: 'in return to Victorian Britain'
« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2015, 01:00:33 PM »
Back on track.   And from the standard.co.uk. luv this bit below.

the Chancellor is like one of those First World War generals who urged his men forward over the top in order to recover 300 yards of bombed-out ground but lost 20,000 men in the process.

Is all this brutality towards the poor really necessary

we are seeing the return of absolute levels of poverty which have not existed in this country since the Victorian age more than a century ago.

"Absolute poverty, of course, is when people haven't the money even to pay for their most basic needs and the evidence for that is all around us. There are now at least 345 food banks and according to the Trussel Trust, emergency food aid for at least three days was given to 350,000 households in this last year.

"The Red Cross is setting up centres to help the destitute, just as they do in developing countries."

And he continued: "Is all this brutality towards the poor really necessary?

"After £80 billion of public spending cuts, after £23 billion cuts in this parliament so far, the deficit has only been reduced at a glacial pace... frankly, the Chancellor is like one of those First World War generals who urged his men forward over the top in order to recover 300 yards of bombed-out ground but lost 20,000 men in the process.

FULL ARTICLE: standard.co.uk
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Offline thaiga

Re: 'in return to Victorian Britain'
« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2015, 01:06:38 PM »
Return to Victorian Britain for crowded households?

Proportionally, this issue isn’t as severe as experienced by our ancestors, but it’s interesting to see how a property boom driven by economic growth can quickly price millions out of the market

As you know. Not all Victorian homes had indoor bathrooms and toilets. Many people used an outside toilet in the backyard or garden. They call it by various names, including 'privy', 'convenience' and 'the necessary house'

the helptobuymidlands.co.uk reports

The number of households with three or more generations of the same family living under the same roof has reached levels not seen since Victorian times, new research from ancestry.co.uk shows.

‘Multi-generational households’ numbers have risen by seven per cent over the last five years, standing at 517,000 today – a level last seen in the mid 1800s. According to government projections this figure is set to rise, reaching 550,000 by 2018 and surpassing the Victorian peak of 608,000 by 2030.
 
The findings come from the first of three ‘Changing Times’ reports looking back at life in Victorian Britain using collections of historic census data, including the recently indexed 1911 UK census. The boom that came with the industrial revolution led to some quite severe overcrowding, just as we are experiencing today.

What did you call  'the necessary house'  wonder if we'll get any answers
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Offline takeitor

Re: 'in return to Victorian Britain'
« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2015, 02:02:10 PM »
The number of households with three or more generations of the same family living under the same roof has reached levels not seen since Victorian times, new research from ancestry.co.uk shows.
I'm afraid I've got my statto head on today so I'll have to take umbridge with the manner in which these stats are thrown around.  There are some VERY important points to take into account, which demonstrate that this claim is entirely misleading.

Firstly the population of the UK in the mid 1800 (using the 1851 census) was around 17 million, as opposed to the present day 64.1 million

Secondly the life expectancy in the mid 1800s in the UK was around 45 as opposed to the current figure of 81.5.

These two figures alone (without allowing for other factors) would suggest that the percentage of multi-generational households has vastly reduced despite people living much longer lives, without also mentioning that that the UK average household size is now 2.3 people as opposed to over 7 in 1851

But then I guess "number of multi-generational households have marginally increased since last year" doesn't make a good headline, despite (if true) actually being a significant by-product of the expensive UK housing market.  Nice advertising for Ancestry.com though...there's always a hidden beneficiary in every survey
 

Offline thaiga

Re: 'in return to Victorian Britain'
« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2015, 02:13:27 PM »
YES! YES! point taken......... BUT  What did you call  'the necessary house'  ;)  NO! NO! chak whal will not do
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Offline takeitor

Re: 'in return to Victorian Britain'
« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2015, 02:25:03 PM »
Sorry Mr T, I did not realise that we needed to stick to such important subjects :-X

That'll be the Bog then, I guess....although the only time I ever lived in back-to back housing, it had been blocked up and was a storage cupboard.
 

Offline thaiga

Re: 'in return to Victorian Britain'
« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2015, 02:32:26 PM »

I did not realise that we needed to stick to such important subjects :lol :lol :lol
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Offline sowhat

Re: 'in return to Victorian Britain'
« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2015, 05:42:48 PM »
What do you call  'the necessary house'

great thread on shight houses.  :fart

i hate the word john i use the word loo or the toilet. Mrs calls it hongnam and when in a hurry jeb kee  :lol

 

Online Taman Tun

Re: 'in return to Victorian Britain'
« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2015, 06:26:15 PM »
The correct word is lavatory but I quite like dunny.

Predictive text tried to strike again. Dunny became funny.  I must try and find out how to turn it off.
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Offline dawn

Re: 'in return to Victorian Britain'
« Reply #16 on: May 06, 2015, 07:08:12 PM »
what are you guys on. Arrh koratfart. ok here goes.

i never like the word lavatory,toilet sounds ok.i have a friend from the uk that always uses the phrase.
going for a dump,that sounds awful.

must go nature calls  :evilgrin
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Offline thaiga

Re: 'in return to Victorian Britain'
« Reply #17 on: May 07, 2015, 06:01:53 PM »
Well having an outside toilet is better than no toilet at all

Two men ride off with motel room toilet, Two men checked into Chantaburi province motel room only to steal its toilet and flee on a motorbike this morning.


pic@manager.co.th

The best of it was the television,telephone and towels were left and they left 500 bht in the room for their stay.

So if you see two men carrying around a toilet on a motorbike you'll know the story.

FULL STORY TH: manager.co.th
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Offline sowhat

Re: 'in return to Victorian Britain'
« Reply #18 on: May 07, 2015, 08:53:39 PM »
the police said, at the moment they have nothing to go on  :lol
 

Offline dawn

Re: 'in return to Victorian Britain'
« Reply #19 on: May 08, 2015, 11:02:16 AM »
they have nothing to go on,it took me a while to get that one,if it's silly joke time. here goes.

what about the hole in the floor they made,are the police looking into it. soooooooory  :evilgrin
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