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Body Collectors
« on: February 20, 2014, 11:38:29 AM »
A grim subject, but I notice that Channel News Asia has a programme tonight under the series title 'Tribal ***' which investigates the Thai system of body collectors. It's a 8.30 pm Hong Kong time - I don't know much about this so I will grit my teeth and have a look.
 

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« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2014, 06:29:03 AM »
The programme was 'Secret Tribes' at 7.30 pm Thai time. (Might be available on the Channel News Asia website).
Remarkable scenario of sincere volunteers with 24 hours training 'making merit' charging around BKK in tuned up 'ambulances' picking up accident victims and ferrying them to the door of the nearest A & E Hospital. Also dealing with crime victims and clearing up after the police at the scene. Both the injured and the dead cared for.
One very attractive 26 year old Lady had been working at it for 10 years at nights, after her day job.
Fascinating 24 hour service reacting to calls and also accessing Police radio networks.
Motivated to fill in for the shortage of 'official' ambulances and I got the impression the 'service' has been around for decades.
Obviously a scheme full of horrors but better than nothing.
Sorry for boring those who knew about it - I'd only heard vague comments. Amazing Thailand.
 

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« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2014, 08:36:11 AM »
Is this the service that's usually called 'Rescue'?
 

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Re: Body Collectors
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2014, 09:03:39 AM »
Saf I guess 'rescue' is the word. The best of intentions but many risks because of the minimal training and equipment.
But better than nothing in most cases I'm sure. These 'rescue' trucks are on the scene much quicker than 'official' ambulances.
I imagine the same happens in Korat and around Thailand.
 

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Re: Body Collectors
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2014, 09:40:34 AM »
The "Body Snatchers" more like...........

No doubt there are some genuine "Rescuers" but i would'nt trust them as far as i could throw them, had a friend have a m/c accident here in Korat and was rendered unconscious, he was transported to hospital minus his gold wedding ring.

You have been warned, not all Isaan Thais are honest people......... 
 

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« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2014, 10:12:05 AM »
Chimera, you beat me to it. They say don't wear your gold or amulets if you think you might fall into the hands of those scooter boys hanging around in old pick ups marked 'Rescue'.
 

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Re: Body Collectors
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2014, 11:41:04 AM »
Well Chimera and Saf, I had heard that description but obviously, it wasn't used in last night's programme !
The service looked quite well organised in BKK and it was not 'old pick ups' as you put it Saf - maybe so in Korat - I don't know.
As for the gold ring - once your friend was unconscious, it could have disappeared at any time I guess.
Of course, in any town, in any country, not all the people are honest.
 

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Re: Body Collectors
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2014, 07:21:04 PM »
Well Chimera and Saf, I had heard that description but obviously, it wasn't used in last night's programme !
The service looked quite well organised in BKK and it was not 'old pick ups' as you put it Saf - maybe so in Korat - I don't know.
As for the gold ring - once your friend was unconscious, it could have disappeared at any time I guess.
Of course, in any town, in any country, not all the people are honest.

and i'll bet you believe in Father Christmas  :lol
 

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Re: Body Collectors
« Reply #8 on: February 21, 2014, 08:02:23 PM »
No Chimera, I don't believe in Father Christmas LOL.
But when your friend was unconscious in the road, it could have been some minutes before he was 'rescued' with others therefore having the opportunity to remove the ring. You said he was unconscious so presumably he didn't know what was happening.
I am not an expert but I understand that the 'merit making' concept is powerful in Thai Buddhist culture and it seems possible that some or many of these volunteers are honest and well intentioned. Maybe we could give some credit for that.
Sorry about your Friend and trust he is fine now.
 
 

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Re: Body Collectors
« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2014, 02:32:29 AM »
The theme 'not all Isaan Thais are honest people' would be true of people in every part of every country in the World I daresay.
Moving along - I don't know if anyone saw the story from the UK recently about the expensive Audi that was stalled by floods in the highly respectable area of Chertsey in Surrey - the wheels disappeared almost immediately and within a week the vehicle was reduced not to a shell - but right down to the floor pan ! Quite funny but quite sad too. There are many stories daily in the UK of thefts from people in vulnerable situations such as Chimera's unfortunate friend.
Saf I don't suppose anyone goes out thinking they'll end up with the body collectors. I hope none of us on here do.
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« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2014, 06:19:44 AM »
Roger you are entitled to your "rose coloured spectacle" opinion, needless to say i don't share it and with good reason. The "Law of probability" should be evident in my friends gold wedding ring incident, if you need me to explain that i will but hopefully you understand.

Regarding the Audi incident, you are obviously aware that England is now full of EU criminals......... :( 
 

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Re: Body Collectors
« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2014, 09:05:18 AM »
Hi - IMO it is as likely that a bystander was guilty as anyone else - whatever 'evident' case you wish to put is ok by me, but no-one knows do they ? The poor victim was alone and unconscious ?
To return to the point, maybe the 'rescue' in Korat is more seedy than the BKK rescue operation, (BKK admittedly will have been shown in the best light on the CNA programme). But you cannot discount the 'merit making' aspect for at least some of these volunteers. So credit where it's due.

The UK is not quite 'full' of EU criminals but it is a problem. UK residents from every other part of the world commit crime too I guess.
Also, I suspect the contribution of the indigenous population to crime rates is very well represented indeed.
(I'm just glad it was an Audi not a TVR !)

I've enjoyed your Rose Specs/ Father Christmas believer portrayal - just for the record I worked for 5 years in Lagos, Nigeria and when I left, my Company, had a security contingent of 150 in a total workforce of 450. And 3 armed guards on our house 24/7 !
We used to collect factory wages in 3 Peugeot 504's, with armed police standing in the rear footwells, hanging out the windows swinging their rifle butts at anyone in range. So I'd like to think I've had enough experience to take a realistic view.

Mai Pen Lai
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Re: Body Collectors
« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2014, 09:16:47 AM »
Roger, what on earth did you do in Nigeria to upset the locals to that extent?  :)

I'm surprised, Roger, that mixing as you do with the experienced expats. of Korat, that you have not heard stories about the robbing of casualties by 'rescue' crews.

The stripping of an abandoned car in the UK is not a new phenomenon. Pikies and scrap merchants have been doing it for many years. Back in the '70s, on the Thanet Way, a car suffered a puncture one evening. While the driver was jacking up the rear wheel, he felt the car move. He stood up to see two men at the front looking at the engine. One said, 'It's OK mate. You can have the wheels. We just want the engine'.
 

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Re: Body Collectors
« Reply #13 on: February 22, 2014, 01:54:22 PM »

I don't know if anyone saw the story from the UK recently about the expensive Audi that was stalled by floods in the highly respectable area of Chertsey in Surrey - the wheels disappeared almost immediately and within a week the vehicle was reduced not to a shell - but right down to the floor pan
ATB

£60,000 Audi abandoned during floods was picked apart by thieves leaving just a shell when waters subsided

            Before and after pics - pikie area thats f sure  dailymail.co.uk

           
Anyone who goes to a psychiatrist should have his head examined.
 

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Re: Body Collectors
« Reply #14 on: February 22, 2014, 02:41:13 PM »
Saf yes I've heard the stories about the rescuers - evenso I don't suppose they're all at it all the time.
Liked the wheels joke.
Thaiga a great pic of the floorpan - what a waste of a great car.
 

 



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