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Mission impossible Getting Thai students to speak English
« on: January 27, 2012, 07:48:48 PM »
     Before he left, outgoing Education Minister Woravat Au-apinyakul introduced a project that requires Thai
     students to speak English at least one day a week
. How is it working 

I just found out there is a video to accompany this story. In it, you will meet the class teacher – not a native speaker of English – and see how he teaches. You will also meet two students, one speaking in English, the other in Thai.
Most Thai students go through their day with little or no need to communicate in English.

The Thai language works very well – too well, according to some government and business leaders who are worried about how the country will compete in the Asean Economic Community scheduled to begin in 2015.

Outgoing Education Minister Woravat Au-apinyakul believed a bit of compulsion was necessary to get Thai students accustomed to using the English they learn in schools.

His English Speaking Year 2012 project requires that all schools nationwide stimulate their students and teachers to speak English at least one day a week.

Recently, the Bangkok Post’s Lamphai Intathep visited some Bangkok area schools to find out how the project was working.

Rossukhon Seangma, a Mathayom 6 student at Kunnatee Ruttharam Wittayakom School in Din Daeng district had mixed feelings.

"Yes, the project will enable us to speak more English, but we are still unsure whether our spoken English will improve," she said.

Ms Rossukhon said she has studied English for more than a decade but her speaking ability is still poor. That's because she rarely speaks.

She said her school had designated Wednesdays as the day on which students and teachers must speak English, but she wondered how many of them would be able to keep it up for a whole day.

"We are Thais. We seldom speak English in our daily lives," she said.

Panya Sukawanich, the school director, admitted the task ahead would be difficult.

"Many of our students have poor English. Some Mathayom 1 students still can't write A-Z. We have to teach them the fundamentals again and again," he said.

Horwang School in Chatuchak district has asked its students and teachers to speak English every Monday.

"Students read news in English broadcasts every Monday morning," said school director Phacharapong Treetepa.

His school also hands out daily conversation brochures in English to students and teachers.

Interestingly, Mr Phacharapong thinks the English-speaking project doesn’t go far enough.  “I think students
should also be learning the languages of neighbouring countries, such as Myanmese, Lao and Malay," he said.
VIDEO.http://www.bangkokpost.com/learning/easier-stuff/275993/mission-impossible-getting-thai-students-to-speak-english



Adapted from a story by Lamphai Intathep in today’s Bangkok Post. You can read the full story here: http://bit.ly/zo0IBK
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Re: Mission impossible Getting Thai students to speak English
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2012, 10:33:04 PM »
Why are you talking about the students only? They're not the center of the problem. The Thai English teachers are! Hardly any of them had sufficient opportunity to practice what they're supposed to be teaching. Not enough opportunities for them to go travelling or go on exchange programs? It somehow doesn't seem to fit in their educational time frame to go and collect experiences. For example go as Au Pair to another country,  work as a councellor in a summer camp etc.


I remember in the nineties I had some monks learning at a secondary school in one of Korat's wats. They kept practicing with me two hours a week for two years. When they left after Mathayom 6 they were able to tell the plot of a movie they had just seen in fluent and clear English, off-hand without preparation. Since the subject English seemed to fit them they went on to the monks college choosing it as major subject. There they were taught by Thai ajarns. I met them again in their junior year: they could hardly communicate in English anymore. I asked them what happened to their skills. Disillusioned they told me: "The ajarns tell us about linguistics, literary criticism etc., but they do that almost only in thai!" I wonder how it is possible to teach about those aspects of another language without actually using that language. I must have missed something when I learned English... :-[
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Re: Mission impossible Getting Thai students to speak English
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2012, 12:57:25 AM »
The foreign teacher in the film i thought did not pronounce his words good.When he said grammer it sounded like grandma and so on.But like everything else here the intentions are good but they dont seem to materialise.             Speak English on Monday - Part 01

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Re: Mission impossible Getting Thai students to speak English
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2012, 09:42:30 AM »
The foreign teacher in the film i thought did not pronounce his words good.When he said grammer it sounded like grandma and so on.But like everything else here the intentions are good but they dont seem to materialise.[/url]

Sorry, I didn't watch the film (the video on Bangkok Post) before. The teacher's speech isn't accompanied adequately by a supporting intonation; he just adds words together, he does not let his speech flow, use it spontaneously. It doesn't appear as his tool for communication, but rather something thought of before and "learned by heart".
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Re: Mission impossible Getting Thai students to speak English
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2012, 10:48:59 AM »
The problems go much deeper and they just don't get it that the system they use and have set-up is flawed in so many ways. Sigmund Freud would call it classic denial.
 

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Re: Mission impossible Getting Thai students to speak English
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2012, 04:16:24 PM »
The problems go much deeper and they just don't get it that the system they use and have set-up is flawed in so many ways. Sigmund Freud would call it classic denial.

That nails one of the most important aspects of the problem!  :spin
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Re: Mission impossible Getting Thai students to speak English
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2012, 04:36:06 PM »
I read an article this morning.
 
The teachers will avoid introducing dialogue into the classroom or eliciting response from the students — to give a wrong answer would be to lose face in the presence of one's peers, a situation that in Thai culture must always be avoided.
Thai kids have no courage to question their teachers… foreign students are very eager to communicate with their teachers. The Thais are usually silent in class. I think it's the culture.Students tend to uphold teachers as demi-gods
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Re: Mission impossible Getting Thai students to speak English
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2012, 07:09:13 PM »
True! I once said something at a meeting of ajarns one of them misunderstood as personal criticism in front of the others. You wouldn't believe what went down after that. Luckily I'm immune to certain kinds of "voodoo". ::)
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Re: Mission impossible Getting Thai students to speak English
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2012, 07:40:26 PM »
I can imagine   
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Re: Mission impossible Getting Thai students to speak English
« Reply #9 on: January 29, 2012, 08:03:35 PM »
Thai kids have no courage to question their teachers… foreign students are very eager to communicate with their teachers. The Thais are usually silent in class. I think it's the culture.Students tend to uphold teachers as demi-gods

One day I was early for my class at the Buddhist College, wandering around the garden there. A young monk addressed me and asked the typical questions "Where do you come from?" etc. I had a good conversation with him and thought him to be quite smart. A day later I met him again as he was waiting for me to finish my class, and then formally apologized for having addressed me the day before, not having known that I was a lecturer there, having taken me for a tourist. He didn't accept that he had no reason to apologize for having taken the opportunity to talk to a foreigner, practicing English etc.; he said it's not appropriate to approach an ajarn with questions like that, he felt having acted impolite.

He didn't say, and I didn't ask, why he came to apologize. I assume that somebody else, one of the laymen, the other monks or the Thai teachers maybe, had seen him chatting with me, and told him that were inappropriate.
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