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Offline thaiga

The evil expatriates
« on: September 25, 2018, 12:53:40 AM »
Another good article from Phil of ajarn.com. Dates back a bit, but a good read as usual from this site. about the marked lack of ex-pat community spirit in expats. it goes on to say. I don't know what it is. Must be not wanting any competition whether for jobs or women. In all my years here, I've never had any serious altercations with Thai guys. It's always been with fellow Western ex-pats.  Here have a read  ajarn.com

The evil expatriates

What the hell do you think you're looking at?

Is there anywhere on earth where there exists a more vicious and spiteful rumor mill? where there is such a petty 'every man for himself' attitude? and where you can find yourself walking nonchalantly in a city surburb and be stared at with contempt by a fellow countryman.

You'll overhear one man tell another that a new law is coming into existence that requires all foreigners to report to immigration on the last day of the month. You'll see advice on discussion forums warning people not to go to this place or that place, or cross the Cambodian border at your peril, because you'll be shot on sight. 99% of it is absolute crap, but people take it on board and do unhealthy amounts of worrying. Why do we feel the need to spread negative rumor and gossip and treat our   ...             
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Offline Johnnie F.

Re: The evil expatriates
« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2018, 08:48:20 AM »
About 30 years ago, when I arrived in Korat, there were hardly any foreigners living and working up here. Only a few of the retirees agreed to do some teaching on the side. Ten years or so later, the first farangs as "professional English teachers" found their way to Korat. To me many of them seemed to feel like celebrities, acting like they didn't do a job only, but rather presenting themselves as a gift, holding their heads a little too high. I think it came from their classroom audience: Female Thai students practicing the word "handsome" with them too often. ;)

I remember, that the dean at the college I was teaching at, suggested one day to bring my wife to a ceremony with the students. Looks like that was hitting the nail: those (for a married man sometimes embarrassing) approaches by female students fell by almost 100% after that.

I would agree with the article, that one factor of hostility towards other farangs is the competition in the status teaching young Thai females.
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An article from itsbetterinthailand.com on The 10 expat types you will likely meet in Thailand. There’s so much to love about Thailand, it’s no wonder so many foreigners end up living here. Some come for a holiday and simply never end up leaving. Others are recruited from abroad. From the ultra rich to the penny-pinching pensioner, and the dirty old man to the young sharply dressed entrepreneur, the world of Thailand’s expats is a strange habitat indeed. Here are the ten specimens you’re most likely to find here.

The 10 expat types you’ll meet in Thailand

1. The English teacher
One of the most numerous of the Thailand expats, the English teacher can be found everywhere from the center of Bangkok to the remotest corner of Isaan. Many are serious about their jobs and some are career educators, but plenty are broke backpackers pausing to refresh the bank account, or older gentlemen with no prospects at home who can’t bear the thought of leaving.

2. The wife hunter
Some Western men have it in their heads that the solution to their lifelong love woes is an Asian woman. These guys come to Thailand for the sole purpose of finding a wife. Some plan on living with their lady in-country, others intend to take their bride back to the motherland. Most of these guys have failed relationships with Western women in their past and believe a “submissive” Asian lady is the key to success. Others simply want a younger, better looking woman than they’d have a shot at back home. Unsurprisingly, you often find this gentleman drinking his disappointment away in an expat bar. Of course there are plenty of expats with Thai wives that don’t fall in this category.

3. The executive
The rarest of expats and one only seen outside Bangkok while on holiday, the executive lives a life unlike any other foreigner. Earning a salary that would make him or her rich even in a Western country, these executives, bankers and finance guys live the high life. Most other expat species would trade places with the executive in a heartbeat.

4. Mr. middle management
Below the executive, but sometimes mistaken for him by those who can’t tell an expensive suit and watch, mr. middle management lives a comfortable life, though not one of total luxury. You’ll find this expat in Bangkok’s towering office buildings, or managing high-end hotels and restaurants across the country.

5. The retiree
Beautiful beaches, low cost of living and a high standard of medical care make Thailand an attractive place to retire. The condos of Phuket and Pattaya are full of retired couples, while expat bars across the country are filled daily with single male pensioners enjoying all that Thailand has to offer (or just the cheap beer).

6. The entrepreneur
The entrepreneur came to Thailand to make a buck. Oftentimes he or she is looking to open up Thailand as an export market for their product, or looking for the next big thing to sell in Europe and North America. The entrepreneur runs the gamut from the rich and successful businessman, to the down-on-his-luck huckster going from one flop to the next.

7. The misfit
The misfit never really fit in in his home country so he moved to Thailand for a new start. Cheap booze and women, and a culture that doesn’t quite understand how weird he is kept him here, but he’s the same outcast he’s always been. A variation on the misfit is the criminal who has active warrants out for his arrest should he ever return home.

8. The sexpat
The best-known and most despised creature in the expat jungle is the sexpat. Characterized by his hatred of women, the sexpat whore-mongers his way through the go-go bars of Thailand. His only friends are his sexpat peers. Peek-density occurs in and around Pattaya – Thailand’s sin city.

9. The digital nomad
A relative newcomer in the internet age, the digital nomad earns his or her income online and is totally location-independent. From graphic designers to web programmers, drop shippers to search engine optimization experts, digital nomads do all sorts of work. They tend towards the young and hip, and can be found hunched over their MacBooks in trendy coffee shops and coworking spaces.

10. The hater
Things in Thailand work differently than they do in the West, and Thai logic is often incomprehensible to foreigners. Most expats have their gripes with Thailand, but the hater makes complaining a lifestyle. The hater hates living in Thailand more than anything else, except, it seems, living in his homeland because he never actually leaves the country he so despises. So the complaints continue as long as there’s someone around to listen. When a hater strikes up a chat, you’re advised to dislodge yourself from the conversation as quickly as possible.
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Offline thaiga

Re: The evil expatriates - The Good The Bad And The Ugly
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2018, 11:12:23 AM »
So how do you define an expat, is it someone who leaves his home country for a long time but who never severs links and might even return one day. your not a traveller or an emigrant, just an expat or even called that word like your from outer space "an alien" what an awful thing to call yourself. lol. Beware of the next expat he could be worse than an alien even the source of all evil. reading some articles on expats around the net. whatsonsukhumvit.com will give you some idea of what he thinks are, The Good, The Bad And The Ugly.

Expats In Thailand: The Good, The Bad And The Ugly

Being an expat is often held up to be something of a hallowed experience. To live in a place other than your homeland, assimilate with the locals and emphatically change your life can only be a good thing. Right?

Well, yes. Absolutely true. But the reality – especially in Thailand – can be a little murkier…

When you think of an expat, the first thing that comes to mind is usually a professional at a multinational on a hefty expatriate package with kids in international schools. Hong Kong, Singapore, New York and Dubai all spring to mind as expat hubs.

And then we have Thailand.

Of course, most of the expats in Thailand are just like those from elsewhere – often they’re qualified teachers, company owners, professionals in some way, shape or form. Many – especially men – marry locals and assimilate fully into the culture, often having Thai children and living out long, happy lives over here.

But then you have the minority whose actions can tarnish the reputations of everyone else: the prejudiced, the White Knights, the Cheap Charlies.

In short: the a***holes.

There’s shades of grey in expat communities all over the world, regardless of nationalities – here are some of the favourable, and less than favourable traits we’ve seen on display by expats in Thailand over the years.

The Good Expats…
Have a wide breadth of life and travel experience to draw from – often with unique perspective and great stories to boot. For examples, see the gazillions of blogs, vlogs, websites, the What’s On Sukhumvit homepage and more, to get a taste of the shiteload of experience people are hanging out to dry for just one… more… click.
Are curious by nature; always looking for new people, places and things to discover.
Are friendly, accepting of new people and cultures and non-judgmental. You can be whoever you want to be in Thailand, and the expats here will take you as you are.
Are knowledgeable, whether in language or customs, and are generally willing to help others.
Are often laidback, and happy to adapt to new circumstances.
Can find humour in less than ideal situations, whether it was taking selfies back in 2014 or getting pumped for the unpredictable thrills of 90-day reporting.

The Bad Expats…
Can be cynical to the point of being jaded, unable to find the good in their home country or Thailand, and consequently…
Don’t know when to quit, pack it all in and just go back home.
Can be insufferable bores with self-indulgent stories and unwarranted advice. To all the Bar Stool Barrys: shut up, mate.
Can act superior towards new, less experienced expats. For the live feed of this, head on over to the Thaivisa forum.
Become ‘White Knight’ keyboard warriors, defending Thailand beyond all comprehension and telling any naysayers, “You know where the airport is.”
Might refuse to bow to local laws and customs in a misguided effort to show themselves above the law. A certain Aussie found himself under fire recently when he shot his mouth off about police corruption in Thailand while moaning about being fined for driving without a licence. Apparently “no white person” that he knew of would have such a licence in Thailand. Sure.

The Ugly
Might bring their prejudices from their home-country to Thailand, including racism and sexism. A Bangkok expats Facebook group was recently banned following a load of abuse from some members on a photograph of an unsuspecting woman at a pro-feminism event.

Can be rude or even dehumanising to the locals, such as assuming every local woman spotted in the vicinity of the Nana neighbourhood is available for hire.
Use Thailand as a front to hide from the rule of law, choosing to deal drugs or indulge in other criminality. Or to ride their motorbikes on the pavement.
Project their own insecurities and issues onto Thailand, rather than deal with their problems on a personal level. Problem with the girlfriend? Of course, it’s because she’s Thai, not because you can’t handle relationships!
Expect Thailand to be just like their home country and refuse to adapt themselves to their new surroundings. Sometimes it’s best to take it as it comes, with a pinch of salt and a mai pen rai.
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Offline thaiga

Re: The evil expatriates
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2018, 01:08:22 PM »
The good outways the bad here in Thailand, although the good with some gets taken for granted and some only see the bad points, unless they return to visit their own country only to see the bad points, not so bad at all.

the good weather and cheap cost of living after a while are taken for granted once accustomed to, bit like visiting the bars full of lovelies, you might not take the opportunity, but its nice to know its there if you want it. back home you might be that old guy in the corner of the pub, sipping on his beer alone. things get stressfull trying to be understood some times, slow down, after all were here to relax and enjoy ourselves.

Here is part post from quora.com
Thailand is so incredibly welcoming and, on the surface, non-judgemental. Many ex-pats, already deficient in some of the social graces or behaviours valued back in their home countries, flock there as a result - they feel they receive respect and a boost in their social status which would be unattainable back home. In short, Thailand attracts more than its fair share of farangs who are social misfits or, at the very least, less than polite and far from suitable in Thai society.

Hence, a lot of the complainers come from this demographic. They exhibit a high degree of hypocrisy in their complaints (like the stereotypical British expat in Costa del Sol, who speaks no Spanish, but complains bitterly about all the foreigners coming to England) and expect the best aspects of their home countries,

As few people call these ex-pats out on their behaviour, are deferential towards them or do not wish to lose face by arguing with them, these same ex-pat’s viewpoints and complaints go without challenge and become reinforced.

It’s always interesting to see so many ex-pats there misattribute any problem they are having to be caused “by Thailand”. Their relationship falls apart, “Thai women are terrible”. Their business falls apart, “You can’t do business in Thailand”. People in their area react negatively to them, “Thai people are two-faced”, etc. etc. While complaints are sometimes justified, and all cultures should be open to critique, in my experience most of the whinging farang would be far better off looking at themselves first before pointing their fingers at Thailand and Thai culture. Or just going back to where they came from if things really are so bad.
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