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Online Taman Tun

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Songkran Europe 2020
« on: April 16, 2019, 10:22:02 AM »
So Songkran is over for another year.  I spent a couple of enjoyable days in the mayhem at the junction of Pho Klang Road and Yotha Road.  It occurred to me that it would be a great idea to introduce Songkran into European cities in 2020, so yesterday evening I phoned my old friend Jean-Claude Juncker.  J-C, I said, wouldn’t it be a great idea to hold Songkran in Europe next year? The old boy had obviously had a good lunch and was immediately receptive to the idea.  An EU Directive is obviously required to control the event and J-C immediately agreed my offer to produce the Directive at a modest salary of Eu 550,000 plus unlimited fact-finding missions to European cities with free 5 star hotels and first class air travel. 
Exclusive to KF readers, here is the outline draft of the Directive.  It should be borne in mind that the final version will run to 1000 pages and exceed 80,000 words.

EC Directive 62517/26 Songkran in Europe.

1. This Directive covers the conduct of Songkran in Europe, commencing in April 2020.  It should be noted that all requirements in the Directive shall be complied with and no derogations will be permitted.
2. Water.  Water is at the heart of Songkran and the following conditions shall apply:- Water temperature shall be strictly within the limits of 24.5 to 25.5 degrees Centigrade.  Permitted levels of nitrates, dissolved gases and bacteria are detailed in Appendix A of this Directive.  All water discharged during Songkran shall be certified by an Approved Testing Body.
3. Water Discharge.  The following methods of water discharge are strictly prohibited:-  Hose pipes, pressure hoses, buckets, basins, jugs, cups and buckets. Water shall only be discharged from an EC certified watering can.  The watering can shall have a capacity not exceeding 1 litre and the rose shall have a diameter not exceeding 10 cm with a maximum of 25 holes with diameter not exceeding 0.9 mm.  The maximum height for discharge of water shall be 20 cm above ground level.  The full specification of the watering can (Eukan) can be found in Appendix B of this Directive.
4. Sound Systems. The audio level of sound systems shall be limited to 85.4 dBA at a distance of 2 m from the loudspeaker.  The only permitted music shall be by Beethoven, Wagner and Brahms.
5. Songkran Vehicles.  The following vehicles are strictly prohibited from taking part in Songkran:- Pick-up trucks, tuk-tuks, trucks, railway locomotives and motorcycles.  The only permitted vehicles are specified in Appendix C of this Directive.  It should be noted that passengers are required to wear seat belts at all times.
6. Risk Assessment. All participating areas are required to compile a Hazard Log with all Hazards demonstrated to be ALARP. 

As you can see the Directive will ensure 100% control of Songkran, 100% safety and 100% boredom.
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Re: Songkran Europe 2020
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2019, 06:25:41 AM »
Very good TT - enjoyed it much  :lol

BTW what is ALARP ? ATB

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Re: Songkran Europe 2020
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2019, 03:40:29 PM »
BTW what is ALARP ?

The term ALARP arises from UK legislation, particularly the Health and Safety at Work etc. Act 1974, which requires "Provision and maintenance of plant and systems of work that are, so far as is reasonably practicable, safe and without risks to health". The phrase So Far As is Reasonably Practicable (SFARP) in this and similar clauses is interpreted as leading to a requirement that risks must be reduced to a level that is As Low As is Reasonably Practicable(ALARP).

The key question in determining whether a risk is ALARP is the definition of reasonably practicable. This term has been enshrined in the UK case law since the case of Edwards v. National Coal Board in 1949. The ruling was that the risk must be significant in relation to the sacrifice (in terms of money, time or trouble) required to avert it: risks must be averted unless there is a gross disproportion between the costs and benefits of doing so.[5]

Including gross disproportion means that an ALARP judgement in the UK is not a simple cost benefit analysis, but is weighted to favour carrying out the safety improvement. However, there is no broad consensus on the precise factor that would be appropriate.

Outside the UK the ALARP principle is often not used; instead standards and 'good engineering practice' are adhered to, and legislation tends to require absolute levels of safety.

The term ALARA, or "as low as reasonably achievable" is used interchangeably in the United States of America, almost exclusively in the field of radiation protection.

Where the ALARP principle is used, it may not have the same implications as in the UK, as "reasonably practicable" may be interpreted according to the local culture, without introducing the concept of gross disproportionality.

Starfish Medical, a company focusing on medical device contract manufacturing and product development, through the Medical Device Directive of Canada is undergoing extensive consideration of the transfer of ALARP to AFAP (“As Far As Possible”) specifically for the regulation of risk of medical devices. The ALARP concept contains legal interpretation of the regulatory process that promotes financial consideration in higher regard than of the requirements of safety and performance of medical devices. Contradicting this approach, AFAP requires that all ventures of safety must be addressed in the intent of the consumer and effectiveness of the product rather than capital gain of the corporation. Under AFAP standards there are two defined justifications for the lack of implementation of risk-preventative measures. The first indicates that the additional risk control will not provide additional support for the system, such as an additional alarm when a previous alarm is functioning. The second states that a risk control system does not have to be implemented if there is a more effective risk control that can not be simultaneously executed due to various scenarios such as spatial boundaries. By implementing this new standard of risk mitigation, companies must demonstrate that they have considered and implemented all necessary means of addressing risk of a product or developed system. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ALARP)

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Re: Songkran Europe 2020
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2019, 03:54:53 PM »
So you're expecting the UK to be part of the EU next Songkran still, TT? ;)

Isn't it nice of your friend J-C to care about Brits' safety in terms of their own laws? Now imagine they left the EU before that and didn't have to mind their own laws anymore, slid into a state of anarchy, citizens pitying that the House of Commons had not burned down instead of Notre Dame. ;)

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Re: Songkran Europe 2020
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2019, 05:10:04 PM »
Hi Johnnie, many thanks for not deleting my post.  I am sure you are well aware of my views on the EU (as opposed to Europe, which is an entirely different beast).  Yes, the UK is a complete shambles just now.  The previous Mayor of London, Boris Johnson, was much criticized for buying some water cannons which have since been sold unused.  They would have been very useful this week to hose the climate nutters off the streets. 

Thanks for the ALARP explanation, one part of which was not quite right:-

Outside the UK the ALARP principle is often not used; instead standards and 'good engineering practice' are adhered to, and legislation tends to require absolute levels of safety.

It is used in many countries, including Thailand. Even with good engineering practice and adherence to standards, complete safety cannot be guaranteed.  It then comes down to an assessment of the probability and frequency of the hazard occurring, the number of people killed and the mitigation measures which can be put in place.

I think we should have a KF water cannon in next year’s Songkran.

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Re: Songkran Europe 2020
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2019, 12:33:18 PM »
I just noticed that a form of Songkran is already celebrated in Europe.  In the village of Mezokovesd the girls throw Easter eggs at the young men.  In return, the young men soak the girls in water.  This from XINHUANET:-

http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2018-04/02/c_137081553.htm
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