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Offline thaiga

Has Thailand changed you
« on: June 13, 2017, 12:21:12 AM »
The Thai Expat

You always meet a wide variety of interesting people as you travel around the world, none more so than in Asia. There is one country though that seems to attract a certain type of person, rather it turns people into a certain type of person, namely Thailand. I am not talking about the obvious sex tourist here, yes we all know Thailand caters for them, but so do other countries.

Millions of people travel to Thailand every year and some settle and try to make a new life in Thailand. Whether these people already have this personality or staying In Thailand changes them, there are certain types of men in particular that seem settle in Thailand either for work, retire or try to stick around for other reasons and make ends meet. I would say the most have this same trait.

Competitive, Insecure with Serious Tall Poppy Syndrome

It seems when some people discover Thailand, they believe they are the only ones “allowed” or “valid” to be living in the country. Everyone else should be deported as they are giving their own country a bad reputation to the locals. If you frequent a bar you will often hear groups of expats talking and the conversation will invariably turn to mocking, laughing and seriously slandering other expats living there. They will talk about the retiree who has a new younger girlfriend “she is only after his money, she will take it all, he will be back home soon with nothing” The businessman “He has spent thousands on that, I can’t see it working” The digital nomad “What a waster, he just comes over here playing on the computer, he can do that anywhere, why doesn’t he just go home”

It is not limited to the bars either, social media also have a wave of insults flying around for no apparent reason. One popular tweeter often refers to backpackers as twatpackers highlighting their youthful exuberance, the shock of it, how dare backpackers come to Thailand? We were all young once, just let them be. If you go on the dating sites like Thai Friendly you will see comments on girls profiles attacking each other. On this site if you don’t have a full membership you can only post comments and not send messages, full memberships have to be paid for. Some of the comments I have seen include “why don’t you pay for a full membership and leave her alone?” as well as “You dirty pervert, you are too old for her” and “You should get a new hair style and stick to your own country” Such competitive bullshit, what is the point?

Whilst I am on the subject of Thai Friendly just looking at some of the profiles you can see the type of personalities that now live in Thailand. There is one profile I saw, a body builder, all his pictures had his shirt off and he must have mentioned how he drives around in his Audi Sport TT and Mercedes 3 times in his write up along with the fact that he has multiple world titles and is rich. He obviously believes this is what will set him apart from others. Of course this profile is then ridiculed by fellow expats in just the same way.

Are they already like this or does Thailand change people?

I think when most people visit Thailand for the first time they come as tourists and inevitably end up in the tourist areas, the pubs, the bars, the temples, the beaches etc. They come across people trying to rip them off, they come across beautiful ladies looking for payment for any kind of sexual service you request. This is by no means the real Thailand but some people then settle in Thailand and get used to this everyday life and it changes them. Their moral compass is reset and suddenly it is ok to cheat on your wife or girlfriend with a bar girl, it is ok to scam someone you have never met before or lie to them to somehow gain from it yourself. Furthermore, it is ok to talk about people, slander them, and generally be unfriendly. Now, not everyone is like this of course, unfortunately though the ones that aren’t are in the minority. 

The expat rule is, you have found paradise and you don’t want to share it with anyone, especially those you believe to be unworthy.

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Offline Johnnie F.

Re: Has Thailand changed you
« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2017, 11:46:57 AM »
The expat rule is, you have found paradise and you don’t want to share it with anyone, especially those you believe to be unworthy.

Harsh, but holds a lot of truth!

I always wondered why the majority of expats here thinks so competitive instead of supporting and helping each other. Of course a warning, when and where it is necessary, is also a kind of support. But criticising fellow expats and coming down upon Thais seems to be the only some have left to their characters.

Eleven years ago one from our midst started to address this point by suggesting a Korat Expats Club on t/v. Guess we didn't get very far with that. Things didn't improve at all! ::)
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Offline thaiga

Re: Has Thailand changed you
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2017, 02:20:33 PM »
Didn't typhoon try that get together at the mall once which never took off, all wearing  kf t shirts to recognize each other, he miserably failed. no XXXXXL sizes  :-[  ohhh! how caty of me.

On a serious note i think the attitude is not only here. When i took Mrs t to the UK i noticed the same sort of thing when she met thai people there, The twenty questions showed they were jealous as hell that she was on holiday and they had to work there to survive. one woman even asked, has he got money, a big grin was her answer.

Even on the farang bar scene, how pleased some expats seem when a fellow expat business goes to the wall, i told you he wouldn't last long.

BUT ... Some people are so poor all they have is money :uhm
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Offline Johnnie F.

Re: Has Thailand changed you
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2017, 03:34:32 PM »
BUT ... Some people are so poor all they have is money :uhm

Very true!

Solidarity always seems strongest, when people share dependency. Be it from an employer or a community. But expats are not dependent on Thailand or other expats, most get their pensions and seem to be well off. They might only depend upon their Thai wives, but who could admit that? So they gotta play "their role" of feeling like the greatests.
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Offline thaiga

Re: Has Thailand changed you
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2017, 05:37:48 PM »
Has Thailand changed you - could the reason be with some - from the telegraph.co.uk

There's a certain kind of man who, after years of being ugly, suddenly is not when he comes to Asia.  He’s flocked by young women and realises they had him all wrong back at home, it must have been the harsh overhead lights of his office. yeah rite  ::)
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Offline sowhat

Re: Has Thailand changed you
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2017, 06:58:22 PM »
we all want someone to relate to and compare notes with, that's why some join a forum.
Yes thailand has changed us all, for a start we take our shoes off when we enter our home,we never drink water from the tap. as the world changed so did Thailand,lost a bit of culture,more greed for money.

live and let live and ignore what you can never change. the bottom line. we all change when getting older but don't try and change thailand, you won't.

before coming here i was grumpy bitter and rich, now just grumpy and bitter. i now put ice in my beer,
oh! and i can't live without the bum gun  8)
 

Offline thaiga

Well! the thread wouldn't be complete without a few words on this subject from who else but Orlando Barton frominspirepattaya.com. Where he explains it's a sort of feeling out process.

When expats first meet, there’s a feeling out process. Eventually you come around to finding out how long each other have been living in Thailand. If you meet someone who has been here longer than you, it is only proper to show respect until they prove they don’t deserve it. If a person has been here significantly less time than myself, I reflexively try to figure out what stage they are in. When you asked someone how long they’ve been here and they start their answer with “Well, the first time I came was ….” they are about to try and impress you with a fictitious number and are full of crap.

Inevitably we are drawn to people who’ve been here a similar amount of time; even more so if they are a similar age. We all want someone to relate to and compare notes with. And more often than not, we end up talking about how Thailand has changed us … or not.

To be sure I’ve picked up some habits here in Thailand that seem peculiar to my fellow countrymen. For instance, I take off my shoes in my house … anyone’s house actually. When I visited my brother in the US and he constantly fell over my shoes at the front door, he thought it was me trying to “be Asian”. When he came to see me in Thailand he found out that shoes in the house is a real no-no. I find that this is a habit lots of expats pick up.

How we eat is another category of behavior that most expats will agree changes after some time here. What I eat is certainly different. No longer is my diet loaded with potatoes and red meat. Rice, fish and fresh vegetables are the order of the day. I don’t drink soft drinks. I don’t eat butter or margarine. My dairy intake is very low. Even the way I eat is different. First off, all meals are “community” in nature meaning I don’t order a dish and forbid anyone else to have some. Also, I couldn’t tell you the last time I stuck a fork in my mouth. Like a Thai, I use the back of a fork to push food up onto my spoon and then put it in my mouth. I don’t do it that way to impress anyone; it’s just a superior way to get the job done.

But I must say, one area of food consumption that has not changed is my love of leftovers. Like my mother, I have quite a collection of sealable plastic containers (Tupperware) used for storing uneaten portions of meals either overnight or in the freezer for later consumption. During my 7 years of marriage to a wonderful Thai woman, I found out this is an alien concept. She simply could not understand how or why someone would want to eat food left over from yesterday.

And that’s the story this picture is telling. I may take off my shoes before entering the house. I make eat Somtum and chicken feet. I may use both hands when handing someone a business card. But, I still eat last night’s pizza for breakfast with a cup of coffee.

I haven’t gone completely native.

Orlando Barton
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