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« on: March 04, 2018, 12:55:02 PM »
Foundation reveals lives of Bangkok’s street sex workers

 A HIGH-RANKING female state official based upcountry but seeking money to repay Bt2 million in credit card debts is among the 800 to 1,000 street sex workers in Bangkok’s Koh Rattanakosin area.

About 60 per cent of these people, earning approximately Bt300 to Bt1,000 a day by selling sex, are elderly persons, according to the Issarachon Foundation, which provides assistance to the homeless, especially those with HIV and Aids.

According to foundation social welfare worker Achara Sornwaree, there are about 70,000 destitute people in Thailand. Addressing a press conference in Bangkok on Wednesday, Achara cast a light on the lives of people who do what they have to do to get by and are often forgotten by the rest of society.

Thanks to the Protection Centres for the Destitute in 77 provinces, many people have had opportunities to engage in other work in local communities and no longer forced to wander the streets. However, the centres have been hit by a recent corruption scandal.

Achara cited the statistics gathered from the street people encountered by staff of the centres in 2017.

 The number of homeless in Bangkok’s public spaces in 2017 stood at 3,630 persons (2,203 men and 1,427 women), said Achara. They comprised 994 homeless itinerant people, 856 people temporarily sleeping in public spaces, 840 alcoholics, 740 suffering from illness or injury, 529 “independent service workers”, 52 migrant workers and 20 foreign vagabonds.

Achara said the seven Bangkok districts with the largest number of destitute people were Phra Nakhon (624 people), Bang Sue (304), Chatuchak (252), Pathum Wan (220), Samphanthawong (205), Khlong Toei (153) and Ratchathewee (164). Most Bangkok homeless itinerants were from the Northeast and the North. About 10 were infants born to homeless itinerant parents at Sanam Luang, she said.

The youngest individual homeless itinerant was 18 years old and the oldest was 93 years old. The oldest died last year and that person’s relatives could not be found.

“Many homeless itinerants and alcoholics, or those who are mental patients, end up dead on the streets,” Achara said.

Many became homeless itinerants because they lost their homes due to various circumstances or had run away due to family problems or other reasons, she said.

A rising proportion was youths who were in welfare homes and had to move out after turning 18.

Foundation staff hand out free condoms daily to sex workers in Bangkok’s Koh Rattanakosin area. Among female street sex workers, the oldest was 83 years old while the youngest was 12. Among the male street sex workers, the oldest was 46 years old and the youngest eight.

Many catered to the unique sexual and emotional tastes of customers, including a five-month-pregnant woman whose customers were attracted to her because of her condition. Some with mental health challenges served customers who specifically wanted to have sex with them.

People cited a variety of reasons for taking on prostitution work, including raising money to repay a debt, the insufficiently small allowance given to Thailand’s elderly, loneliness, and a need to feel accepted or to feel alive, Achara said.

Many related specific financial needs, such as the high-ranking female state official who travels from another province to moonlight on the streets of Bangkok, raising funds to repay Bt2 million in credit card debts. Achara also cited lovers who wished to earn extra income or students addicted to games or materialism.

Some were not selling themselves for money. Instead, they chose prostitution in search of warmth or from a psychological need, such as a military housewife who already had her husband's Bt30,000 monthly pension.

The issue of sex trade is often brushed under the carpet in Thai society, said Achara.

While the country might not choose to legalise prostitution, the majority of which was a consensual exchange between the two parties, she said Thailand needed to provide a zone for sex workers so as to reduce inequality and to reduce cases of sexual violations.
Anyone who goes to a psychiatrist should have his head examined.

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Re: Foundation reveals lives of Bangkok’s street sex workers
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2018, 04:13:14 PM »
debt is a big problem,people can now have what they want and pay for it later,some like in the article have to sell their bodies to keep their payments up.
the legalization of prostitution and a designated area would make it much safer for these people, the world's oldest profession seems to be tolerated in some cases. how could they stop it anyway as an estimated 200,000 people work in the multi billion dollar trade. about 3% of Thailand's gross national product. legalizing it would make way to access to social services and health care. it would also most certainly bring in tax revenues.
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« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2018, 09:23:43 PM »
So where's the best place to be a prostitute, in Thailand religion has a big hold on the subject, In many societies around the world, religion is used as a form of social control, and it is often the primary force behind governmental policies and social opinions and expressions.
although monks seem to condone the practice of prostitution, lets not forget that these prostitutes, of course, are making such donations to the monks in order to make merit, which will consequently improve their karma.

Wiki states: Prostitution in Thailand is not a recent phenomenon. During the Ayutthaya Kingdom (1351-1767), prostitution was legal, it was taxed,and the state ran brothels.Since 1960, prostitution in Thailand has been illegal. Nevertheless, it was estimated to be worth US$6.4 billion a year in revenue (2015), a significant portion of the national GDP.

New Zealand is the best place in the world to be a prostitute

NEW Zealand. Home of the long white cloud, the Lord of the Rings and, apparently, the best working conditions for prostitutes on the planet.

Sex workers across the ditch sign contracts, get paid weekly, work for bosses who keep their best interests at heart and have a relationship with police that Australian prostitutes can only dream of. Prostitution is even covered under occupational health and safety laws.

It’s not pot luck that New Zealand prostitutes have it better. It can all be traced to a single piece of legislation that passed through parliament in 2003 — the Prostitution Reform Act.

The decision 12 years ago to decriminalise sex work meant it became legal to work in managed brothels without a size limit, work for yourself, work from home, work from the street or work from the web.

In Wellington, a brothel named Bon Ton is spoken of as “the Holy Grail”. The eight women who work there told documentary makers this week that “everybody’s in a good mood” and that, “hand on heart”, they love what they do.

The Bon Ton website promises sophisticated and elegant escorts and offers the “Exclusive Girlfriend Experience”. But the staff get as much out of it as the clients do.

Catherine Healey, national co-ordinator for the New Zealand Prostitutes’ Collective, told New Zealand is the best place in the world to work in the sex industry.

She said the legislative framework in NZ is regarded worldwide as the most effective.

“We’ve effectively allowed sex workers more control over what they choose to do,” she said.

“It’s really important to have as many options as possible and to be able to work wherever one wants — we’ve avoided a monopoly scenario and it keeps exploitation in check.”

Ms Healey said sex workers now feel completely comfortable reporting clients to police if they are abusive, threatening or unable to pay their bills.

“My memory is very long and it goes back to the days when police lectured a sex worker. I can well recall sex workers who didn’t report to police,” she said.

“Things have changed significantly since then. I remember a time when a client didn’t pay and police arrived and escorted him to the ATM to withdraw the money.

“We had three murders in Christchurch a decade ago and police said the cooperation from women in the industry was the only reason they solved the crimes.”

Australia, like much of the rest of the world, is lagging behind.

New South Wales is the only other place in the world where prostitution is decriminalised, though street based sex work is still heavily restricted. Every other state and territory has its own laws and in many Australian cities prostitution remains illegal.
Janelle Fawkes from the Scarlett Alliance Sex Workers Association said it was time the rest of the country caught up.

“Decriminalisation is recognised by the United Nations Secretary General, United Nations Population Fund, UNAIDS and sex worker communities globally as the best model for delivering sex worker occupational health and safety, industrial and human rights as well as good public health outcomes,” Ms Fawkes said.

“Decriminalisation means that sex industry businesses are regulated like other businesses, subject to existing regulatory mechanisms such as local council planning and zoning regulations.”

Ms Healey agreed something needed to change in Australia, though she was hesitant to offer advice to her neighbours.

“Far be it for a New Zealander to tell an Australian what to do but it’s fair to say that if Australia decriminalised prostitution the sky would still be blue the following day”
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Re: The Oldest Profession - We are not a sex destination
« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2018, 03:08:09 PM »
PM calls for end to 'sex tourism image

Ministry enraged at Gambian minister slur

Thailand has to change its image of being a sex tourism destination, Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha said Tuesday.

The Ministry of Foreign Affairs has also expressed dissatisfaction in response to a Gambian minister's negative remark about the country's sex trade.

"We have to accept that some people make a living from this kind of occupation. Therefore, we have to help solve the problems both in the careers and income of these people. More importantly, we have to look into whether these people are happy to change their occupation or not," the prime minister said.

He added that some people decide to work in the sex business as they follow the fashion of buying luxury goods.

"When anyone says something bad about us, we have to comply and use the laws [to solve the problems]. Everything must improve. We have to help make Pattaya and other tourism areas quality tourist attractions and free of this [sex tourism]," Gen Prayut said.

On Saturday, Gambian minister Hamat Bah told state media that Western tourists planning to travel to Gambia in search of sex should stay away from his country, according to eTurboNews, a global travel industry online news outlet.

"We are not a sex destination. If you want a sex destination, you go to Thailand," Mr Bah reportedly told Kerr Fatou, a weekly show on state media GRTS.

Foreign Affairs Minister Don Pramudwinai said he did not believe the Gambian minister's remark would be taken seriously by the international community.

The ministry told the media it had told the Royal Thai Embassy in Dakar, Senegal, which also oversees Gambia, to issue a letter expressing dissatisfaction with the Gambian minister's remark, saying it could hurt Thailand's image and Thai tourism. What he said was "not in line with the facts".

Thailand has plenty of developed tourism venues and activities, the ministry insisted.

While a similar letter would also be sent to the Gambian ambassador based in Kuala Lumpur, the Gambian Honorary Consul-General in Bangkok was summoned to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs for a meeting Tuesday where he said Gambians living in Thailand were also unhappy with what their minister had said.

Minister of Tourism and Sports Weerasak Kowsurat said the ministry will continue to work on promoting the country as a preferred destination for international visitors as well as improving tourism products and services and ensuring that secondary provinces become new destinations for visitors from around the world.

Earlier, UK Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs Boris Johnson, who met with Gen Prayut at Government House on Feb 12, at a speech in London a few days later said: "I have just discovered we have more than a million people who go to Thailand every year, where our superb consular services deal with some of the things that they get up to there."

British media implied Mr Johnson was joking about sex tourism in Thailand. The UK embassy in Bangkok later denied this was the implication.

Meanwhile, a group of Russians was arrested on Monday for organising sexual technique training courses in Pattaya.
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« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2018, 04:52:24 PM »
Thailand has to change its image, the image is so important, carry on the same and make it look tidy, under the carpet you go. if you really want to make a change ban bars, massage parlours, the whole lot instead of trying to make it look good on the surface. the people are in charge anyway as without them you wouldn't get their vote.

you cannot upset the people, just like banning people sitting in the back of a truck, they won't have it.
now who's going to feed these hungry people that rely on money being sent home every month from the procedes of immoral earnings, we all know the score but do the people in charge. They say lord budah condones the work these people do, but it excepts the donations to build them fine temples, peoples attitude is, the more you make merit the better for you, especially in the next life.

whether you choose to go with paying sex or settle down with a partner, you will part with your money both ways, but only one way is called prostitution.

you don't have to give cash anymore in Nonthaburi they have started cashless payments as an option in donations.

To join the bandwagon of projects motivated by the government’s “Thailand 4.0” policy, a Nonthaburi Buddhist temple has pioneered the use of QR code and Prompt Pay to raise donations for its Ubosot restoration. i don't expect they are bothered how the money was come upon (excuse the pun)
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« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2018, 02:33:15 PM »
The Gambian government has issued a statement apologising Thailand for the comments of its tourism minister.

Hamat Bah told state media on Jan 12 Western tourists planning to travel to the Gambia in search of sex tourism should stay away from his country and go to Thailand instead.
Anyone who goes to a psychiatrist should have his head examined.