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Penis Rick

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« on: February 19, 2010, 04:19:45 PM »
For sale. Browning .45 pistol. Excellent condition.  Hardly fired. Fitted with night sights and heavy duty recoil spring. I also will include 200 rounds of Corbon hollow points. Not easy to get these in Thailand. The gun is registered and can be transfered. Asking 10,000 baht.

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Re: For sale
« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2010, 08:30:27 PM »
The gun is registered to the owner, hard to get a license for anything bigger than 9mm or .38.

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« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2010, 02:27:17 AM »
It's registered to my spouse. The gun was originally given to us from a relative who s a police officer. I also have a glock 10mm that I might be willing to part with for the right price.

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Re: For sale
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2010, 03:15:53 AM »
I have a .38 S&W, secondhand cost 32,000baht from the gun shop in Chonburi, so yours is a bargain.


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« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2010, 08:42:04 AM »
Not sure what you guys are doing is legal but it stinks selling guns on the net especially a forum. What next drugs and prostitution. Hope you guys havent got kids at home. The police probably dont care what you do in your own home. Sad bastards

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Re: For sale
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2010, 08:59:03 AM »
It's alright, mines not for sale, although the internet prostitution sounds like a viable business proposition :)

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« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2010, 11:05:56 AM »
Nothing wrong with publicly purchasing and selling registered defense weapons. Since my wife acquired a registered Czech and the whole village knows about it the number of attempts to break in to our house in the night has gone down to zero. ;)
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« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2010, 12:18:24 PM »
Anyone living next to me selling drugs or guns legally or not would be reported to the Thai
police and certainly immigration as they may well have previous form. Doesnt sound responsible people...

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Re: For sale
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2010, 02:53:15 PM »
Now where does Penis Rick live?

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« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2010, 03:17:38 PM »
Anyone living next to me selling drugs or guns legally or not would be reported to the Thai
police and certainly immigration as they may well have previous form. Doesnt sound responsible people...

Why does a government license people to posess (registered) weapons, if transfers of ownership of registered weapons were not possible? I don't see a problem, if the transfer from one licensed owner to another licensed owner gets registered as well.

Only by a system of licensing and registering the illegal gun trade can be limited. And the majority of violent crimes aren't committed with registered weapons.
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« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2010, 04:28:16 PM »
Now where does Penis Rick live?
[/quotE ;) ;) ;)  I would seriously question the mentality of persons like this. Legally they are not breaking the law and the police and Immigration would not
be interested. That is unless the police or immigration already had dossiers. To be frank if I khew the addresses of such persons  I would be handing this
info over to them without a seconds thought

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« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2010, 06:40:50 PM »
The funny thing is that it used to be easier and cheaper to buy an illegal gun in Thailand than a chainsaw, what a weird country :)

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Re: For sale
« Reply #12 on: February 21, 2010, 09:28:42 PM »
For sale. Browning .45 pistol. Excellent condition.  Hardly fired. Fitted with night sights and heavy duty recoil spring. I also will include 200 rounds of Corbon hollow points. Not easy to get these in Thailand. The gun is registered and can be transfered. Asking 10,000 baht.

Firstly, Browning make the Hi-power 9mm auto, no revolvers here, it's an auto pistol, I'm afraid. If you say it's a .45 then that implies it's a WWII, or before, example of such a weapon, Colts are more common of this time but Brownings are also around (probably a collectors item now), they go as far back as the 1911 version, probably before too, but used untill the Vietnam War too.
Secondly, "night sights", what? Is that an electro-dot or the green night sights (as that's the colour that the human eye sees best in at night), or is it just a telescopic version?
Thirdy, cordon hollow points (AKA Dum-dums) are highly illegal everywhere that has signed an agreement (including Thailand),

Quote from Wiki regarding 'Cordon hollow points',
The Hague Convention of 1899, Declaration III, prohibits the use in warfare of bullets that easily expand or flatten in the body.[3]  This is often incorrectly believed to be prohibited in the Geneva Conventions, but it significantly predates those conventions, and is in fact a continuance of the St. Petersburg Declaration of 1868, which banned exploding projectiles of less than 400 grams, as well as weapons designed to aggravate injured soldiers or make their death inevitable. NATO members do not use small arms ammunition that is prohibited by the Hague Convention.

Despite the ban on military use, hollow-point bullets are one of the most common types of civilian and police ammunition, due largely to the reduced risk of bystanders being hit by over-penetrating or ricocheted bullets, and the increased speed of incapacitation. In many jurisdictions, even ones such as the United Kingdom, where expanding ammunition is generally prohibited, it is illegal to hunt certain types of game with ammunition that does not expand.[4][5] Some target ranges forbid full metal jacket ammunition, due to its greater tendency to damage metal targets and backstops.

You are attempting to sell something that is a major violation of not only Thailand's laws but also of international laws. These things are not legal, even if your mate in the police farce says so, typical.

You're aptly named in your call sign. Anymore crap you want to post on this subject? 
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« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2010, 10:03:38 PM »
Pretty sure you will find as in most countries hollow points are legal in Thailand, obviously being a .45 in Thailand that is classed as a military calibre though.
Just checked, I have round nosed indoors but pretty sure on the ranges in Thailand hollow point is the most commonly used.

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« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2010, 10:12:20 PM »
Well...yeah DD...don't want to be too cynical here but, you know the deal between rules and enforcement here.

Sure it's easy to get full metal jackets etc here, even if you're not supposed to be able to. Armour piercing usually means steel tipped or coated and they are probably get-able (if there is such a word) here too, there are few regs followed on this, especially if its an army guy doing the talking, just speaking technically here I suppose (I know know no-one gives a toss), sure you know what I mean, as if it means anything really.  ::)
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« Reply #15 on: February 22, 2010, 11:08:01 AM »
Anyone living next to me selling drugs or guns legally or not would be reported to the Thai
police and certainly immigration as they may well have previous form. Doesnt sound responsible people...

LET ME SAY I agree 100%... Lawful or not what are guys doing selling guns on a website.?? Dirty dog seems to have a lot of time on his hands . What is his source of income ? Penis is selling guns. What else ? Where does he come from ? Does he have a police record ? Is he known to the police or immigration in Korat? If squeaky clean ok. If not an anomous letter the persons in authority would not go amiss if anyone knows of his identity. I understand the legal side a little but nothing goes away in terms of farangs.

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« Reply #16 on: February 22, 2010, 05:31:29 PM »
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Dirty dog seems to have a lot of time on his hands .
When did that become a crime?
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What is his source of income ?
Why would my source of income be of any interest to you?

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« Reply #17 on: February 22, 2010, 08:24:38 PM »
what are guys doing selling guns on a website.??

What are guys talking on a website about selling and buying guns for? Should that be done in secrecy like illegal or shameful things?  ;D

Since when is it illegal or shameful to care about the family's protection? Sad if people need protection to keep or just scare the bad guys off, ain't it?  ;D
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« Reply #18 on: February 22, 2010, 09:27:33 PM »
Think you will find digger is English, they tend to be a bit anal about guns if they are from the lower classes.

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« Reply #19 on: February 23, 2010, 09:54:21 AM »
Think you will find digger is English, they tend to be a bit anal about guns if they are from the lower classes.

UK citizens have had a thing about guns since citizens in one town and children in a school elsewhere were shot by lone sociopathic gunmen. Gun control was always tight in the UK but these episodes led to the banning of legal hand guns. It hasn't proved totally successful because teenage urban gangs with hand guns are now a serious problem. I guess that images of kids with their brains blown out whilst being denied the right to protect one's own family with guns entitles one to be a bit anal. Let's not turn a very nasty subject into poor quality racial jibing, please.

On the other hand, this is Thailand and the rules are different. It's legal for a Thai to own a gun. A gun is a good way to protect life and property. Several guns are even better. There are also other very effective ways to defend oneself. The farang spouse of a Thai can pick up her licensed gun and use it to defend her if her life is threatened. The police are sympathetic to the use of guns in self defence. My own actions would probably be the same as they would in the UK if I was physically attacked; I would do my best to make sure that I could appear in a Court to defend my actions in self defence.

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« Reply #20 on: February 23, 2010, 12:24:55 PM »
One sad tosser even runs a site showing dogs and young girls in forms of bestiality.
Not only Brits find the selling of guns online offensive by the way

sorry posted in wrong topic

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« Reply #21 on: February 23, 2010, 12:26:11 PM »
Yes, sociopaths and guns aren't a good mix. People with a mental illness should be prevented from buying or possessing guns. Police in Thailand probably don't do background checks on prospective gun owners but they should - they should at least ask  the authorities from the farangs home country about past convictions and mental health.  2007 Virginia Tech shootings - 2010 Korat Mall shootings?

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« Reply #22 on: February 23, 2010, 01:09:15 PM »
Haven't heard of a foreigner himself being licensed to own a gun. The wives can get the license, usually for keeping the gun on the premises only, not allowed to carry it in public. And the number of ammunition allowed to keep is limited too: far less than PR wants to throw in with the super deal. ;)

Be assured there is a thorough background check and registration of the gun with its ballistic print as well as the owner's finger prints.

Foreigners who have nothing to hide can register their finger prints with the police too, for identification purposes in case of an accident:

http://koratfart.com/index.php?topic=253
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« Reply #23 on: February 23, 2010, 02:13:29 PM »
Yes, sociopaths and guns aren't a good mix. People with a mental illness should be prevented from buying or possessing guns. Police in Thailand probably don't do background checks on prospective gun owners but they should - they should at least ask  the authorities from the farangs home country about past convictions and mental health.  2007 Virginia Tech shootings - 2010 Korat Mall shootings?

I hear that such checks are now being made in an effort to clean up some of the dirt that has found its way into Thailand.

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« Reply #24 on: February 23, 2010, 04:59:27 PM »
As we all know, enforcement is the problem here and it's selective imposition, not the laws as there are plenty of them. JF's last post is pretty accurate regarding what's allowed and having thought about it in the cold light of the day then, really, this whole thread is a wind up or piss take which resembles a whole load of hot air, doubt the OP has the sand to sell a Browning .45 auto pistol, even possess one here, other than in the confines of his own mind.

Hopefully some of the garbage will be caught in this new venture of the Thai authorities, long overdue. However, what is announced and what takes place are of two very different things here, corruption and graft have become so ingrained into even corner of everything that many will probably slip the net due to paying the right people. There will be some offered up to the sacrificial alter to make it look good but the more well financed and connected will probably get away with it as usual. Often we have to wait until these types orchestrate their own downfalls through screwing up one too many times through hubris or just becoming too insane, even for the Thais and upset the wrong person.   
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« Reply #25 on: February 23, 2010, 08:40:12 PM »
In the UK it was Michael Ryan in Hungerford who shot the town up so to speak, he was a registered firearms dealer, basically as registered firearms dealer you could buy whatever you want apart from full autos as they came under section 5, so the police failed miserably on issueing that one a license.

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« Reply #26 on: February 24, 2010, 09:20:47 AM »
In the UK it was Michael Ryan in Hungerford who shot the town up so to speak, he was a registered firearms dealer, basically as registered firearms dealer you could buy whatever you want apart from full autos as they came under section 5, so the police failed miserably on issueing that one a license.

He walked around the town carrying an arsenal of weapons that were designed only to kill humans. Did you also Google the Dunblane killings? My point was that it's cheap to decry the English (I think you may have meant British) for having a dislike of the gun culture common in some other countries. Not all of the British are against the possession of licensed hand guns, by the way, and some have taken full advantage of the different laws in Thailand.

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« Reply #27 on: February 24, 2010, 09:28:39 AM »
As we all know, enforcement is the problem here and it's selective imposition, not the laws as there are plenty of them. JF's last post is pretty accurate regarding what's allowed and having thought about it in the cold light of the day then, really, this whole thread is a wind up or piss take which resembles a whole load of hot air, doubt the OP has the sand to sell a Browning .45 auto pistol, even possess one here, other than in the confines of his own mind.

Hopefully some of the garbage will be caught in this new venture of the Thai authorities, long overdue. However, what is announced and what takes place are of two very different things here, corruption and graft have become so ingrained into even corner of everything that many will probably slip the net due to paying the right people. There will be some offered up to the sacrificial alter to make it look good but the more well financed and connected will probably get away with it as usual. Often we have to wait until these types orchestrate their own downfalls through screwing up one too many times through hubris or just becoming too insane, even for the Thais and upset the wrong person.

I agree with what you say. I thought that the OP was a piss take and it's been shown to be very unlikely that he has the weapon.

There's a very few people in Korat who have little to do other than play with themselves and attempt to cause distress for others. It's good to see these days that more normal people are sidelining them. I think too that the initiative to identify and deal with undesirable expats. will have some success. Things that may happen this year could have a big impact on the programme, on way or another.

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« Reply #28 on: February 24, 2010, 09:51:00 AM »
If I remember correctly Ryan was using military weapons, military weapons are not designed to kill people and haven't been for many many years, weapons that are designed to kill people and large animals are large caliber, ie .303 or .45 as in the 1911 colt .45, generally a center of the body shot will have such a shocking power that it damages internal organs and causes death, nowadays they realise it is better to wound than kill thats why such small calibers are used, for every wounded person it takes resources and people to look after them, also wounded shocked people cause more demoralisation amongst troops.