Author Topic: Jobs, employment and business in Korat and Isaan  (Read 5785 times)

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Jobs, employment and business in Korat and Isaan
« on: July 18, 2009, 10:11:01 AM »
Most of the expats in Isaan are retirees receiving sufficient pensions garanteed by their governments. Still some of those expats do a little work on the side to keep themselves busy and that way healthy. As residents and part-time businessmen they also do have some needs for professional services by other expats. But is the demand high enough for making a living on work in Isaan, a living by being a full-time professional without any financial substance or basic income to live on? Can I live here from my hands and brain's work alone? Is the low cost of life sufficient to garantee my survival?

The most popular work is opening a restaurant or bar. Unlike in Western countries the overall prices for dishes and drinks in restaurants and bars are very low. Though salaries for staff are moderate as well the profit margin is low. And in the last years regulations for hygiene and quality standards were increased having caused the costs to rise. Since expats in Isaan usually don't live next door to each other recommendations of customers to others don't work well. Anyway email and internet forums are the prevalent form of communication. Spamming by restaurant owners is therefore not uncommon. Forums which are replacing local newspapers could be a platform for recommendations of customers to other people. But writing a report about a negative experience is kind of dangerous. You might get sued for defamation even when writing the full truth. Anyway how can a prospective customer trust a recommendation on a forum written by a guy not known? How big are the chances that it isn't a fake written by the owner of the restaurant himself under a false nick? Will known people risk repercussions for writing about businesses?

And there we get to the next business profile: lawyer. The cities and tourist centers are already crowded with ambitious lawyers trying to make a living. But is the demand for a foreign law business in Isaan high enough to make a living? A lawyer has to  rely  heavily  on 'walk-in' trade, advertising  and any other available publicity  media to  draw attention  to  the service he provides. And it's not  easy. Some foreign  lawyers, particularly  those in Korat and Isaan, appear desperate for work, therefore sometimes charge unreasonably  high  fees, and try to convince clients that  some very  easy  things (such  as usufruct) cannot  be done without  the help  of a lawyer. As we all know, although a usufruct  can be done very  easily for only 75 baht, prices of a vast multiple for carrying out this simple service by foreign lawyers around here are not unusual.

Obvious overpricing and aggressive advertisement pressure might be an indicator of a professional having failed to build up a business based on taking a fair chance in his chosen market.

In marketing science today customer appreciation supersedes aggressive advertisement pressure. Especially in retirement communities advertising pressure seems misplaced due to the fact that most retirees don't need to make their decisions about spending on the basis of financial profit, not needing to take risks. Most important to them is comfort; customer appreciation might be a better way therefore.   ;)

Mitraparp Monkey

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Re: Jobs, employment and business in Korat and Isaan
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2009, 01:07:28 PM »
Excessive advertisement pressure and overpricing usually just helps competitors and alternatives getting their feet on the ground. In fact that means challenging them.

If you're the fool who went as the only entreprenuer onto a market with insufficient demand to support your business you maybe shouldn't act like a monopolist. 8)

That means switching the "live and let live" factor off.

airbag

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Re: Jobs, employment and business in Korat and Isaan
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2009, 02:26:51 PM »
A friend told me last night he saw another farang restaurant getting cleared from its premises. It really doesn't appear easy. :-X

Interested

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Re: Jobs, employment and business in Korat and Isaan
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2009, 02:43:47 PM »
Would you mind letting us know which restaurant that is?

Mitraparp Monkey

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Re: Jobs, employment and business in Korat and Isaan
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2009, 03:28:22 PM »
airbag might be talking about Tony Bar; I also heard he was checking out to move to another location. Rumors vary; he says the conditions his landlord set for extending the contract were unacceptable, others might be talking different. Not being able to agree with the landlord about the further lease just three months after having rebuilt the bar makes that rebuilding a very short-sighted decision. :-X

Franklyb

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Re: Jobs, employment and business in Korat and Isaan
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2009, 03:56:03 PM »
I wonder if he will keep the website with the naughty girls on?, oh i forgot he does'nt own the website. :D

Strange all these bars/restaurants closing hope they were'nt all getting harrassed by someone.

silverfox

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Re: Jobs, employment and business in Korat and Isaan
« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2009, 12:25:15 AM »
I know that working without a permit is strictly verbotten, but as I understand it, the authorities tend to turn a blind eye to people doing voluntary work, I would like to help teaching English at an orphanage or doing some conservation work a couple of days a week, Just something to get me out and about 2 or 3 days a week, any thoughts from members ???

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Re: Jobs, employment and business in Korat and Isaan
« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2009, 09:27:06 AM »
I used to perceive it as helping out. But the Thais are proud people: they want to pay you! That limits you to the teaching; you'll need a TEFL certificate to be allowed. Then they'll get you a work permit. You can get that yourself or you or they can pay a fortune to a professional to get it for you.

But lending a helping hand to one of the buddhist temples (or temple schools like at Wat Boon) should be easier. They still pay you a little renumeration by hours to cover expenses...

silverfox

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Re: Jobs, employment and business in Korat and Isaan
« Reply #8 on: December 14, 2009, 11:32:21 AM »
A friend of mine is currently doing the TEFL, it cost him about £300 for the course with a lot of work involved, but he is a lot younger than me and will need to earn a crust as and when he moves to Thailand, for myself, I just want to help, I love the country and people etc etc, see my intro, and will just need something to shift my carcass off my pit in the morning for a couple of days a week, I don't want to have to do a course if I can help it, I did the first part of a City & guilds course "Adult and further education" teaching certificate many years ago, I have also "Taught or instructed" in my current employment but I really just want to do it informally, maybe I should look at conservation work instead. Is there much conservation work going on in the Korat area ?

dirtydog

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Re: Jobs, employment and business in Korat and Isaan
« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2009, 10:28:09 PM »
Why not just teach the kids from one of your local mom and pop stores for an hour a day, it will benifit them greatly, they most likely will be more willing to learn, and mom and pop will fill you up with free Thai food and beer :)

silverfox

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Re: Jobs, employment and business in Korat and Isaan
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2009, 11:06:51 AM »
DD, thanks for that my friend, I had not thought of that, unfortunately I am stuck in the UK until I can sell my house but that is a definate "work in progress" idea for when I get there.

williemays

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Re: Jobs, employment and business in Korat and Isaan
« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2009, 11:11:04 PM »
Silverfox..contact *** at the George when youre in Korat. If youre sincere there is certainly loads of work out there waiting for you :D

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silverfox

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Re: Jobs, employment and business in Korat and Isaan
« Reply #12 on: December 15, 2009, 11:36:58 PM »
Thanks for that, I will, I am due to pay a visit late April till late May so plenty of time to make contacts and get an idea of whats what  :)
I am grateful for your reply, cheers, chokdee, proust, etc

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Re: Jobs, employment and business in Korat and Isaan
« Reply #13 on: December 16, 2009, 10:30:05 PM »
Silverfox..contact *** at the George when youre in Korat. If youre sincere there is certainly loads of work out there waiting for you :D

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Williemays should better ask people first before he recommends them for voluntary work on the internet. In addition I suggest to use the PM system for any recommendations like that in future.

 



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