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Offline thaiga

Am I falling out of love with Thailand?
« on: March 26, 2017, 02:10:38 PM »
Slow news day today, apart from - who's the best to test - your speed on the net. So you can suffer another article on us expats, from sweet3mango.com. I know some people are not happy here, but maybe there unhappy where ever they live. Could be some long timers here in Thailand outgrow their love for the country, but stop and think how it would be if you went back home, not the same as you left it, many years ago, so chin up and make the best of what you have got.  As the article states: There is not a place in the world that is perfect and everywhere has its problems.
So here's the good n bad ...


Am I falling out of love with Thailand? pt.1

No, no, no and No its not even going to be about Thai bashing, it’s just a revaluation of expectations (realistic and unrealistic) and reality I never came here many moons ago expecting it to be the answer to all my life’s goals, it been an experience and one that I am delighted to have done, but now many years later and my objectives have changed like many people as they get older. I’m thinking is Thailand the answer to the Autumn days of my life?

First up… if I was going to leave, there is one group that would be a major factor… It’s the “If you don’t like it leave” brigade… You know the one’s… head in the sand arse in the air that think nothing is wrong… I’d call it Ostrich Syndrome. There is not a place in the world that is perfect and everywhere has its problems both big and small and to ignore or deny that Thailand has problems… says more about them than me.

In a funny sort of way, I buck the trend, if I left I’d leave with more than what I came with, now that is an exception for a farang in Thailand, I don’t consider myself rich and that was never the objective in the first place, I did not come here to make money or hide from a previous life, I came to get a better balance on life, hopefully learn something, experience new things.

So what are those factors that cause my review?. Driving a pet hate of almost everyone, well we can say driving in Thailand is one hell of an experience, but in reality if you have driven, in Rome, Paris, Athens, Deli (any Indian city) Rio or most of Africa, Thailand is not really that much different, its clogged, jammed and can be hell on earth for any motorist. I’m not even going to single out Taxi’s, Pick-Up’s or buses, every major city has its twats or Buffalo’s. However I will acknowledge there is a special kind of stupid that considers charging around at crazy speeds, lane changing, cutting people up, tail gating, using a phone, at night with no lights is a combination that is of Olympian standards….. Maybe its a gold medal not to be proud of?

 Before I continue…. let’s balance up some of the wonderful things about Thai life…. Open all hours shopping, to be able to buy almost anything 24/7 is a wonderful facility, the local food is amongst the best in the world, the climate is fantastic, (but too hot in March to May) but we have air con and escapes. Cost of living is excellent even if it has gone up noticeably in recent years. Public transport… I’d consider the BTS and MRT one of the best in the world, and in a few years’ time when all the new lines are complete, I’d say it could be the best. Facilities, we have parks, entertainment venues, a wide variety of choice for those “free time hours”….. Maybe also one of the most important factors, its safe… well ok maybe that’s up for discussion in certain places and the annual rise of unexplained farang deaths is cause for concern, but in general speaking in normal day to day situations I feel safe…. but that does exclude crossing roads… which is a lemming run at the best of times.

 I would go as far to say that Thai ladies are amongst the most pretty in the world, impossible to understand, or reason with as I’m sure they are from Venus and us men are from Mars, then how many of us men understand women anyway? there is also the special kind of stalker and witch with I’ve not noticed anywhere else, and the legendary ” Thai Girl Network of spying on men….. I’d agree with some men do need it, as they are as reliable motor manufactures car test emissions data, but really… if a Thai lady has a nice boyfriend or man, there are a dozen or so others that would do anything to destroy the relationship!!!

Important part here…..  I’ve never been a

To be continued.
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Re: Am I falling out of love with Thailand?
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2017, 02:46:01 PM »
Hello Thaiga.
Just my quarterly look in and I'm surprised to see you are a bit down.
The Thai Girl Network of spying on men. Now that is a real shaker and I've had a taste or two.
Maybe you and I are ole' foes  :violent but anyway, look after yourself and I'm sure you'll feel better tomorrow or next week.
I await Part 2 - agog.
Keep smiling.
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Offline thaiga

Re: Am I falling out of love with Thailand?
« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2017, 04:42:54 PM »
WTF you on about roger  :spin  read the post, i'm not down at all, it's an article from  sweet3mango.com.

BUT ... you spout off first as usual without the facts. If you want to post something interesting tell us all about your experience of The Thai Girl Network of spying on men. or sit with the lurkers

I notice the people that run this forum down as being not run properly can't seem to stay away ;D
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Offline sowhat

Re: Am I falling out of love with Thailand?
« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2017, 07:48:56 PM »
I've had a taste or two

i bet you have :drink
 
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Offline thaiga

Re: Am I falling out of love with Thailand?
« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2017, 11:38:52 PM »
Here's pt.2 of the article from sweet3mango.com. The big question here is. Do you feel less welcome now than when you first come here. Wouldn't it be nice for an english man to have his own castle

I’ve never been a religious type, can say I neither agree or disagree, being a scientist of old, I can be sceptical about much of it, and if nothing else some of these holy books give us some amazing stories, however I am very open to any new way of thinking… there must be something spiritual out there don’t you think? Well I can say I have embraced Buddhism, …. No, I’ve not go all Hari Krishna in a monkish sort of way, but just taken to the Buddhist way of life style, I have very much enjoyed visits to temples throughout the kingdom, and can say I have a few places I like to visit for a bit of meditation…. that’s something I’ve never had a calling to do in the past.

 
Okay let’s look a bit on controversial aspects…. This is Thailand, and as far as I’m concerned it’s for the Thai’s themselves to run, rule, govern and administrate how they see fit, it’s their country, and I wish not to be involved in and politics or laws, but I do value free speech ( not gossip or false information or lies) and a voice to say when something is obviously wrong. I value the rights of the normal man, and rights of a person to go about their daily business without fear or repercussions as long as they are law abiding. I value the aspect of human rights…. Maybe here as a farang I am concerned that it feels maybe I don’t have any rights, civil or human, I am only a minor incident away from being introduced to hell, the law does not appear to protect or look after me if such an incident happened.

 Okay… another topic. the Police… yes yes we all know it happens in one way or another… tea money or support for their family is as common as a sunrise and sunset, to be fair, if I was paid as little as them, with all the risks, I’d like some fringe benefits too. A few baht for a minor error okay my fault then so be it, most of these life’s little extras are normally to do with usage of the road, and in real terms a few hundred baht is better that the big fine and points on my licence that I would get back at home. Sure they control many aspects of life, which will effect locals more than me, we all know that the selling of alcohol is managed very carefully, and several restaurants I like to visit have the local bill sitting at tables by the entrance, of course I show respect in a wai, it’s one of the most important aspect of Thailand, I can’t say I get right 100% of the time, but have a fair grasp of how and why and whom too…. However, for right or wrong there is often the option to pay for a problem to go away regardless of how big that problem might be.

One of the aspects of being here that makes me smile and what I do really enjoy, is the politeness of service staff… salutes, bow and wai’s…. my grandparents would have loved that aspect of life, we have lost the plot back home, manners are a rare occurrence and whilst we can consider Thais can also be ignorant, I feel it not in a malice sort way but, they just don’t know, and us English are a strange kind of folk. I love the aspect of service station attendants filling the car up so you don’t have to get out, in the heat of summer here its a refreshing service.

Thai people….. their smiles, their wai, their culture…. overall its great, in most cases they are friendly and welcoming, they have their own twats, as we all have to suffer our own. There are plenty of scams, and I’d be bold enough to say its because the laws allows it to happen, its changing, and oh boy is it changing. However, I touched on it earlier… why have I fallen out of love for Thailand?

Another important aspect to the future, is the old question of land and property, many countries don’t allow foreigners to own land, or have some sort of property, sure there are exceptions for companies, but do we all want to run a company and employ one or more Thai’s to qualify for the rest of my life, and then what happens after my death, do my dependants get my assets? In not being able to buy a home of my own ( ie house) it’s a big negative, I like a place to be mine ( Englishman’s home is his castle) maybe not a common concept worldwide, but it’s my security my little plot, my own kingdom. We see so many property scams here, even with a good lawyer it’s a minefield and not worth the risk under any circumstances, and I’m not keen on renting for ever.

So did I fall out of love with Thailand?…. No I think not… I think Thailand has fallen out of love for me….you….  and us farangs.

Thanks to sweet3mango.com
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Offline dawn

Re: Am I falling out of love with Thailand?
« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2017, 11:59:01 AM »
Thanks for taking the time to entertain us Thaiga. sad to see one of our members still has a problem,that bad that he can't seem to read your post quite clearly. or is he here to ridicule,as that it is a replica post of pistol mcfly's a way back.

TROLLS do liven up a forum though. Lonely guy,sad to see.
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Offline thaiga

Re: Am I falling out of love with Thailand?
« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2017, 06:41:07 PM »
WOW! Whatever next - Roger then Dawn, there coming out the woodwork in this thread - Takeitor will be posting next  ;) Here's a bit more on falling out of love with Thailand, this time from manlyman of lonelyplanet
Bit of an oldish post, from 4 years ago, wonder if the guy still feels the same. Cant say i understand the bit about (the obnoxious new wealthy coming out of various countries to visit and buy up property) though


Hi, I have been traveling to Thailand on and off for 15 years now (as well as a host of other destinations). I used to be in love with Thailand, and now it seems all the affection I felt for it has completely been sucked out of my body.

I have been here for two weeks now and can't wait to leave the place, something I would have never thought possible. I've tried a few different destinations to try and shake the funk, but no donut, I'm done with it.

I'm not one of those "it was better 15 years ago" types. I feel the Thais have become jaded by us; the rude and demanding families, the drunken mess that now unfolds on the Kohsan Rd every day, the foul sex tourists that line the seedier parts of the country, and the obnoxious new wealthy coming out of various countries to visit and buy up property.

The Land of Smiles seems to have become the land of grimaces, the warm welcome seems oh so false these days. I have 12 days left and I'm not looking forward to it. It is a depressing feeling. Probably a sign of the times. As the world gets smaller, and cultures become more and more generic, the world is becoming less interesting. People are losing their identity in a sea of technology, communication, and media interference.

I'm done.

Below is just a few comments, more can be found at  lonelyplanet.com

Captain_Bob
You and thousands of other regular tourists and expats, for whom the honeymoon inevitably comes to an end. Beyond the jaded face of tourism, drunk KSR mob, sex trade, etc. there is of course much more. Sometimes better to give it a break though, rather than become one of those moaning thaivisa.com fixtures who do nothing but complain

krest
Yes, most people have seen the changes, but the demise is completely their own doing. Dont want foul sex tourists then close down the bars. But they won't becuase they all want the money it brings.

the rude and demanding families, - Dont work in the tourist industry, its only worth 6% of the GDP anyway. But they will because they can still use all their scams etc. Anyway if you want to see rude and demanding families, try a middle class thai-chinese family. They're the masters at it.

the drunken mess that now unfolds on the Kohsan Rd every day Again, if you dont want it stop selling them alcohol. But they wont because they want to squeeze every last baht out of people.

the obnoxious new wealthy coming out of various countries to visit and buy up property. Again, dont sell it to them if they're not welcome. If you are referring to the Chinese and Russians they go to perhaps 1% of Thailand, most notably parts of Bangkok, Samui, Phuket and Pattaya. I only ever see them at the airport.

Close the door on the way out.

friendly_checkingirl
There are many expats stuck in Thailand due to financial reasons who have no option but to pretend it's fabulous. If they admitted to themselves how miserable they really are, well, they might as well go and jump. They all fell out of love with Thailand a long time ago but have no choice.
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Offline nan

Re: Am I falling out of love with Thailand?
« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2017, 02:20:05 PM »
ignorance does not help your post one bit but it probably says an awful lot about you.
 
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Re: Am I falling out of love with Thailand?
« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2017, 05:43:00 AM »
Gives a whole new meaning to the word, "recycle."   ;D
 
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Offline dawn

Re: Am I falling out of love with Thailand?
« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2017, 12:05:58 PM »
is that the pottery village  :drink
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Offline thaiga

Re: Am I falling out of love with Thailand?
« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2017, 02:29:13 PM »
is that the pottery village  :drink
No but just a few HOPS away  :lol
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