Author Topic: 30 foreigners detained (pattaya) not carrying their passports  (Read 1772 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline thaiga

  • Global Moderator
  • Korat forum specialist
  • *****
  • Posts: 14192
  • Karma: 34
30 foreigners detained during ID checks in Pattaya Nightclubs

In the early hours of Friday 9 Police Divisions and more than 100 Police Officers took part in an operation in the Walking Street area to check foreign nationals to ensure they were complying with the law and were carrying their passports with them.

It has previously been acceptable to carry a good photocopy of your passport photo-page and visa stamp page with you, but that seems to have stopped as the Police conducted the operation with the aim of detecting and disrupting transnational organized crime groups, who are thought to use Pattaya Discotheques and Bars to meet and plan their crimes.

full article: pattayaone
Anyone who goes to a psychiatrist should have his head examined.

Offline thaiga

  • Global Moderator
  • Korat forum specialist
  • *****
  • Posts: 14192
  • Karma: 34
100 Armed Police Raid Zoe in Yellow, No Criminals Found



One hundred police officers and tourist police officers raided and roped off the Zoe in Yellow entertainment complex, refusing to let tourists go, testing urine for drugs and arresting tourists without a passport on them.

All the tourists who did not have their passport with them were taken to Chiang Mai police station

full article: chiangmaicitylife.com
Anyone who goes to a psychiatrist should have his head examined.

Online jivvy

  • Korat forum expat
  • ***
  • Posts: 141
  • Karma: 9
  • Newbie
Re: 30 foreigners detained (pattaya) not carrying their passports
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2016, 02:39:16 PM »

A fine example of how to make friends and influence people  ;D ;D

Offline Roger

  • Korat forum specialist
  • *****
  • Posts: 1548
  • Karma: -1
Re: 30 foreigners detained (pattaya) not carrying their passports
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2016, 03:03:58 PM »
Yes Jivvy - this story may play badly in the media overseas.
B'man's struggles with an obstructive Immigration Dept. are indicative and stories about the arrests of bridge playing pensioners, censorship of the media etc., are troublesome.
Police checks when one is out enjoying oneself are a pain BUT the Police DO have a job to do. But the risk of an original Passport being lost or stolen is real and I think it is unnecessary for the Police not to be allowed to accept a good photocopy of the Passport identity page and Visa page.
Myself I carry a photocopy in my wallet - trimmed it folds neatly to a credit card size.
Thaiga thanks for highlighting this - it's food for thought.

Offline thaiga

  • Global Moderator
  • Korat forum specialist
  • *****
  • Posts: 14192
  • Karma: 34
Re: 30 foreigners detained (pattaya) not carrying their passports
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2016, 03:26:19 PM »
will you be carrying your passport after these couple of events, or will you risk the fine rather than losing it.

It would be an idea and clear up all the confusion if an ID card was issued with your details from immig. when receiving your ext of stay.  easy to carry with you.

I know all immig. have there own rules, this is what samut prakan immig. has to say.

Q. Do I have to carry my passport at all times?
A. Foreigners must carry their passport or a photocopy at all times. If they go away somewhere overnight, they should also take their passport. For photocopies, you need to show the photo page and the latest extension of stay. Violators could be detained and told to pay a fine not exceeding 2,000 Baht.

Wadya think guys. photostat copy or what. Will you carry your passport with you.
Anyone who goes to a psychiatrist should have his head examined.

Offline Roger

  • Korat forum specialist
  • *****
  • Posts: 1548
  • Karma: -1
Re: 30 foreigners detained (pattaya) not carrying their passports
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2016, 03:31:27 PM »
Thaiga I'll continue to carry the photocopy.
But when traveling away the original will be locked up in the car with me.
And maybe I'll carry the original with me sometimes if I think it wise.


Offline Aussie

  • posting on moderation row
  • Korat forum tourist
  • *
  • Posts: 81
  • Karma: 2
Re: 30 foreigners detained (pattaya) not carrying their passports
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2016, 04:02:37 PM »
Thank you thaiga for the reminder.  I never carry my passport or copy of same.  The exception is when I stay over somewhere.  In the future I will carry my passport to be on the safe side. I also will carry my yellow residence book.
Regards
Before you criticise someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes. That way, when you criticise them, you’re a mile away and have their shoes

Offline thaiga

  • Global Moderator
  • Korat forum specialist
  • *****
  • Posts: 14192
  • Karma: 34
Re: Carrying your passport at all times
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2016, 03:15:13 PM »
Carrying your passport at all times

So what if you go to the beach, just pop it under the towel while you go for a swim, yea right.
Dancing around in a sweaty night club to early hours of the morning, with your passport in your pocket, it'll need ironing afterwards.
Staggering home on beach rd at 2 in the morning with your passport hanging out your back pocket, i don't think so.
Where you gonna put it when having a massage, nah don't answer that one.

It's just not practical to carry your passport around with you. if your holiday involves a lot of activity and in and around water, or several other activities for that matter.

"lesser of two evils"

For me a photostat copy with facial details from passport on one side, and ext of stay on the other side and a driving licence.
At least you can show who you are and your entitlement to be here.

Another idea is to take a photograph of your passport (the page with all the info on) and the ext stamp and keep it on your smartphone.

As with nearly everything in Thailand confusion surfaces, it would be nice to know what the law is one way or the other.

Here's an article from the Bangkokpost dated 6/10/2014 

All tourists and expats nationwide are required to carry their original passports with them at all times. There is no exception. Failure to carry your original passport may result in a 2,000-baht fine. A photocopy, stamped or not, or a driver's licence is not an acceptable substitute. "The reason behind this is that Immigration needs to keep track of overstayers and foreign criminals who may be staying illegally in the country,"

However, late last week, a senior Immigration Bureau official in Bangkok offered a different interpretation.
That he wanted to reassure the expat community. "Making all foreigners in Thailand carry their original passports with them would be very difficult," he said. "It's about being reasonable and using common sense."

He said tourists would not have to carry their original passports and expats could use a Thai driving licence if they have one, or a photocopy of their passport as a form of identification.


So we are no clearer to what is the correct thing to do.
Anyone who goes to a psychiatrist should have his head examined.

Offline Baby Farts

  • Korat forum specialist
  • *****
  • Posts: 3244
  • Karma: 16
  • Seeek!
Re: 30 foreigners detained (pattaya) not carrying their passports
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2016, 09:01:59 AM »
I have every thing scanned in jpg and pdf format and stored on my phone.  If they want a copy I can sms, email, line, etc to whoever needs it. For checking in hotels and more formal kind of things I do use the real deal.

Offline audi

  • Korat forum tourist
  • **
  • Posts: 52
  • Karma: 1
  • Newbie
Re: 30 foreigners detained (pattaya) not carrying their passports
« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2016, 11:29:13 AM »
Driving to Pattaya a few days ago the Police control stopped the car and asked for passport and looked straight for the visa page

This was at the mountain top area.

Offline takeitor

  • Korat forum reporter
  • ****
  • Posts: 308
  • Karma: 14
Re: 30 foreigners detained (pattaya) not carrying their passports
« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2016, 11:35:53 AM »
Wow...good to know Audi.  I've never been asked for my passport at a police check before, although I always take it with me if I travel out of town, so this looks like a new directive.  Will make sure it's to hand in the car from now on.

Offline thaiga

  • Global Moderator
  • Korat forum specialist
  • *****
  • Posts: 14192
  • Karma: 34
Re: 30 foreigners detained not carrying their passports - video
« Reply #11 on: February 27, 2016, 01:07:49 PM »
Here's the vid (30 foreigners detained) which clearly states to carry your passport at all times

30 foreigners detained during ID checks in Pattaya Nightclubs - Pattaya One
Anyone who goes to a psychiatrist should have his head examined.

 



Thailand
Statistics